Refa Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) I'll make them lighter, particularly the... light tomes. They will still weigh the guy down if they're small and if it's high rank, but it'll be a lot more muted. I dunno about Light and balancing Dark magic is really just balancing it for Canas (so not tooooo hard haha), but I think anima is for the most part balanced enough. Maybe Fimbletoe or whatever could lose some weight to become relevant, but everything else on that end seems OK. Also I don't get why Athos needs to be nerfed. I don't really find taking a few more turns on final boss any more interesting than luna bombing him. Edited May 24, 2012 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 @above, makes Light Part 1 more tricky. Whenever I play that I end up killing most of them with Athos because he's just so efficient and has like a 10% chance to instaKO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Fimbletoe I just blew Dr. Pepper out of my nose. You Dorcass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Oh oh oh Furet Not really something balancing but you should get one of the guys in Skype to disable Lyn Mode Forced tuts or something on your patch because the hardest part of FE7 is sitting through that bullshit every time I use a new rom for things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Oh oh oh Furet Not really something balancing but you should get one of the guys in Skype to disable Lyn Mode Forced tuts or something on your patch because the hardest part of FE7 is sitting through that bullshit every time I use a new rom for things Oh god yes this PLEASE!!! Playing through Lyn's mode is like being forced to watch the fucking chipmunks movie with your grandmother. please spare us from this immeasurable pain please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 WHAT WAS THAT EXPAND THE TUTORIAL TO COVER LHM AS WELL OKAY no seriously I'll fix that shit I'll see if I can get all modes unlocked from the start, actually. I mean, who the hell plays LNM on anything past a first run... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Yessss I'm pretty sure Rey or Camcam knows a thing or two about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 ilu furetchen <3 Seriously, though! That makes me really happy snappy skippitty-doo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) WHAT WAS THAT EXPAND THE TUTORIAL TO COVER LHM AS WELL OKAY no seriously I'll fix that shit I'll see if I can get all modes unlocked from the start, actually. I mean, who the hell plays LNM on anything past a first run... ? I play it whenever I'm using anyone from LM (which is most times), outside of drafts of course. LHM is slightly harder than LNM, but not enough to be interesting. Only enough to lower the amount of experience I can shovel into the LM characters of my choice. Sitting through the tutorial is annoying, but whatever. Edited May 25, 2012 by BigBangMeteor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 @above, makes Light Part 1 more tricky. Whenever I play that I end up killing most of them with Athos because he's just so efficient and has like a 10% chance to instaKO. Fair enough, his Light Part 1 performance is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 yeah actually you can probably afford to make athos a bit more like gotoh, i.e., not super awesome at everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Oh god yes this PLEASE!!! Playing through Lyn's mode is like being forced to watch the fucking chipmunks movie with your grandmother. please spare us from this immeasurable pain please I think you can use a vanilla FE7 save file to make sure you start the game with HM unlocked but changing the events to disable tutorials isn't hard either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Please do not prf aerola to Renault only I LIKE using Lucius he's one of my favorite characters and gets used unless he gets SERIOUSLY stat screwed. Though now I can't remember if its prf to Athos... if so please un prf it... I use Serra constantly too but more often then not she ends up getting S in staves... would be nice to actually GET an S rank Staff... -_-; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Could Aureola be made Bishop-only? Like Wo Dao is Swordmaster-only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 If anything, this game needs MORE tutorials! The Rescue, Drop, and Give commands are completely unmentioned in Lyn's mode. Which is completely bizarre since Rescue is certainly one of the game's more complex mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Don't really need to make Aureola Bishop prf just give Athos A in light It's so unlikely that he'll hit S light before Nergal, actually idk if it's even possible even if he solo'd the map but I cbf calculate And there's no other light magic classes and even if there is it'd be terrible to screw them out of their S rank anyway would be nice to actually GET an S rank Staff... -_-; Would be cool but new staff effects requires ASM to do so. So that's out of the question unless Camcam or Reyrey figures it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I think you can use a vanilla FE7 save file to make sure you start the game with HM unlocked but changing the events to disable tutorials isn't hard either Really? I had no idea. How exactly do you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just find a complete fe7 save file and name it the same as the rom. Unless you meant disabling the tutorial, in which case you can either use Arch's patch for it, or just manually delete the crap from Lyn Mode's Event Files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 Could Aureola be made Bishop-only? Like Wo Dao is Swordmaster-only? IIRC there's a spare weapon lock, so yes, it could. That's... a really good idea, considering Elimine was probably an Ultrabishop of some sort; certainly not an Archmage like Athos. Renault gets Aureola and S Light, it's locked to Bishops, Athos... maybe loses some of what stat? His durability's fine as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 for starters, that 30 mag is ridiculous although if you're going to cut his mag down to ~22ish, there's no need to deny athos access to either aureola or luna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 25 magic, he keeps his dark rank, but Luna loses its crit? I don't know, I'm... pretty much guessing by now. But I guess it's something that can be pretty malleable for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) If he had less speed he wouldn't be able to double dragon and be less useful in Final Part 1 too. maybe 16 speed so he can't double Dragon with Luna even with Speedwings? Edited May 26, 2012 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) honestly 25 mag is still a little high for luna the big problem with luna in the final chapter is that every single boss has >14 res, which makes luna do more damage than forblaze regardless of its user. @above: 16 spd gets athos doubled by brendan with either forblaze or luna also i don't agree with hugely nerfing athos's performance against the dragon, because that battle is just super tedious anyway if none of your lords can stand up to the dragon and athos takes twice as long to kill Edited May 26, 2012 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 Well, at least the lords will be buffed. I personally feel Ephraim is an exemplary power level for a lord, so don't expect three weaklings. Keep the speed, boost his HP by about three (doesn't he get oneshot by the dragon sometimes on HHM? That should... stop) and lower magic to like 22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 athos only needs 41 HP to guarantee survival against the ~5% chance that the dragon will have 40 MT i'm not really saying that lords need to or don't need to be buffed, but there's going to be some fraction of players who don't use the lords at all and end up going into final severely underleveled. athos is designed to be a safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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