Trickster Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So I was planning on making a hack for FE7 and I wanted so feed back for sprites. They're a younger Linus and Lloyd, I just wanted to know anyways I could touch them up, or outright fix anything. I added the normal portraits next to them for comparison purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICKT™ Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 How are belts relative to their age? If not, then why remove them instead of just giving them a different outfit entirely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 How are belts relative to their age? If not, then why remove them instead of just giving them a different outfit entirely? That was more of a personal change, I never really understood (or liked) why they had belts on their collars, so I just removed them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47948201 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 They have belts because without them, their outfits are massively bland. Name one important FEGBA character with less flair on their outfit: everyone at least has, like, a golden clip or some capey thing--heck, even some generic villagers' clothes have more stuff going on. Throw on some cool things. Younger people like cool things anyway, right? As for the sprites themselves, you did a pretty good job of removing the belts and generally reducing their apparent age, though AAing with colors that weren't previously there is slightly unnecessary and might cause trouble with hacking if you add fancy stuff to their outfits. Also, Linus' right eye (OPV) wants to be moved left, and his jacket's trim is kinda messy right around here: EDIT: Also their ears are a liiitle gnarly where you removed the earrings since it looks like you kept the general shape of the ear in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 They have belts because without them, their outfits are massively bland. Name one important FEGBA character with less flair on their outfit: everyone at least has, like, a golden clip or some capey thing--heck, even some generic villagers' clothes have more stuff going on. Throw on some cool things. Younger people like cool things anyway, right? As for the sprites themselves, you did a pretty good job of removing the belts and generally reducing their apparent age, though AAing with colors that weren't previously there is slightly unnecessary and might cause trouble with hacking if you add fancy stuff to their outfits. Also, Linus' right eye (OPV) wants to be moved left, and his jacket's trim is kinda messy right around here: EDIT: Also their ears are a liiitle gnarly where you removed the earrings since it looks like you kept the general shape of the ear in some places. Hey thanks for the imput! So I fixed the jacket, because I was editing it at 1am after a nine hour shift so I was probably to tired to notice how off the jacket looked. I moved the eye over one left and one down, and I think it looks nice. I fixed up the ear a bit. As for the Plainness of their appearances, it will have a point in the hack I'm making but I'll add some additional flair onto them when it'll be right for the plot, but for now they have commoner clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Could I ask about how much younger you're trying to make the Reed brothers? It doesn't really look like they've de-aged more than a year or so. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Could I ask about how much younger you're trying to make the Reed brothers? It doesn't really look like they've de-aged more than a year or so. :/ My aim was to scale them back only a couple years, I was hoping to make a game that centered around the fang's first formation, however as Legault implies the fang actually hasn't been around very long, maybe three to five years at most. Considering Legault is barely older than the bothers and he's only in his twenties I was trying to get them to look around the age of 17-19. tl;dr 18ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 They really don't look that young. Try drawing references from Hector or some of the other teenage characters (which is most of the PC cast, really). The fact that their bodies haven't been changed doesn't make them look any younger either, although I'm sure you're getting to that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 They really don't look that young. Try drawing references from Hector or some of the other teenage characters (which is most of the PC cast, really). The fact that their bodies haven't been changed doesn't make them look any younger either, although I'm sure you're getting to that.. Alright thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 So I tired to make Linus have a smaller body, to show that he's younger. However his head looks a little on the big side, but I just wanted to see if I'm on the right track or not.I really need to stop spriting/splicing at 3am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Calhoun Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So I tired to make Linus have a smaller body, to show that he's younger. However his head looks a little on the big side, but I just wanted to see if I'm on the right track or not. I really need to stop spriting/splicing at 3am The newest one, hmm.... his body is way too small Maybe the third one with a face similar to the fourth and an ever-so slightly smaller body would look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 So I'm back, but this time I've got a mapSo the map is that it's a castle garden, hence the trees and grass in the center.The objective would be to defeat boss.Who would be in the center, having several soldier around him, other enemies on the map would include cavaliers and fighters, with a handful of reinforcements coming from the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Too uniform, too little going on. I believe Prime's indoor tutorial has some tips on how to spruce it up. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25878&page=2#entry1573080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Too uniform, too little going on. I believe Prime's indoor tutorial has some tips on how to spruce it up. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25878&page=2#entry1573080 Thanks for the tips, I have got a improved version now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPQR Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A few issues: -The tiles for the base of the pillars don't match up with the other tiles in the room, they also lack shade tiles to the right of them as well. The center walls lack shade tiles as well to their bottom and right sides. -The garden itself for being such a focal point of the map seems rather small compared to everything else, not to mention it seems outright odd to see an outdoor section surrounded on all sides by an indoor area. Most castle gardens I've seen in some sort of medieval-fantasy setting are are vast and open, not to mention they have man-made walkways that run through them. We can't expect the high and mighty nobles to walk on bare earth, now can we? -To parrot deranger's comment the map as a whole seems pretty generic and has too little going on. When designing a map you need too account for each area and make sure that most if not all sections serve some purpose, whether it's a pathway to get you from Point A to Point B, a pathway/area to funnel enemy reinforcements to impede your progress/give you stuff to kill so you can level up and watch your stats go higher/make your playing experience hell, a side room that has treasure, etc. Check out the tutorial that was posted and work from there. Edit: Okay, so you reworked the map and it does look a little more lively, but I feel like there is too little going on for the topmost part of the map You could cut that part out entirely and still have a serviceable map, and not a bunch of empty space that doesn't contribute at all. Of course that is assuming that you start at the southwest stairwell, even if you start at the north there will be one side on the left or right that doesn't serve much purpouse. Of course, there are ways of fixing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Alright, so I've gotten rid of the upper part since it was useless and added more to the garden.I should have explained that the player will spawn at the upper left, by the stairs, while enemy reinforcements (Cavaliers so they can actually catch up to the player) will spawn opposite on the upper left as well as having several fighters by the lower stairs and soldiers protecting the boss in the garden.Tremble at my mighty path way, It's lopsidedness terrifies you!.... because it's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blyegg Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 What's up with the bottom of the pillars? Maybe make the light grass a little less uniform? (Not the road.) Also, if you want the image, just click "Export" and then check the "Current layer as big picture (?scrn.BMP)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPQR Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think the pillar bases is an issue with the tileset itself. Looking at some of the other maps from the base game I assume it is supposed to be some sort of floor reflection of some kind. I guess it's supposed to be really shiny tile flooring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blyegg Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think the pillar bases is an issue with the tileset itself. Looking at some of the other maps from the base game I assume it is supposed to be some sort of floor reflection of some kind. I guess it's supposed to be really shiny tile flooring? Yeah it is the Tile set, hence why I was using the other ones earlier, but they didn't match well with the tiles Maybe make the light grass a little less uniform? (Not the road.) And what part of the grass were you referring to? The dark patches or the lighter stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blyegg Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yes, I know, I could have done it a lot quicker and easier.... but I had nothing else too do. Procrastination <3 The Light Grass. You get the idea, I hope. Andyesiwasthatbored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 chapter 1scrn.BMPAlright this look any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 pretty sure you can upload bmps to imgur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 pretty sure you can upload bmps to imgur Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I don't like how boxy it is. Also, the staircase in the left wall create a height error with the top stairways. As well, the 2 high wall in the middle starts on a different level than the 2 height walls on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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