Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 BBM is probably town. I thought Prims was town for getting roleblocked by not-me, but that can't be confirmed and (down a different track) scorri says I somehow might have caused that. Also Prims' posts just make me think he's town. Vhaltz is still scummy despite being mayor and enabling the Eury lynch. That may not be enough for now, but don't ignore him just because of that. I'm confused about scorri's role again, but the way she was fishing for info makes me think she's town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 SB I SEE YOU ON SKYPE HECK I AM TALKING TO YOU ON SKYPE PLEASE VERIFY IF OBJECTION TRACKING YOU TO SHINORI IS TRUE OR FALSE @Grassbridger Doubting Objection's role because it's simple is a really lame reason to be suspicious of him. Also I don't get why scum!Vhaltz would bus the freaking Godfather of all people (not to mention all of those other modifiers). cause I don't want to be mislynched, and it seems like you're holding off on hammer because you don't want to hammer, which is scummy. I don't even get this logic, considering it's a majority lynch system anyways. Hammering now would be scummy, because it would kill the several hours of so of discussion and SB could potentially catch Objection on a lie/clear his good(?) name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Well my logic is invalid since Vhaltz couldn't hammer me, and you couldn't hammer Objection. But it read to me like you knew who you wanted lynched (Objection) and you wanted someone else to do it. If Vhaltz had been able to hammer me and you had been able to hammer Objection, it would have been scummy since you would have been willing to let the townier (FYPOV) person get lynched rather than cast a hammer vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also I don't get why scum!Vhaltz would bus the freaking Godfather of all people (not to mention all of those other modifiers). That's a good point, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Objection! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I don't even get this logic, considering it's a majority lynch system anyways. Hammering now would be scummy, because it would kill the several hours of so of discussion and SB could potentially catch Objection on a lie/clear his good(?) name. Is this a compliment? Thanks. Turns out that I will be here for phase end but I still need a sub for D3. Also, I see a familiar pomeranian viewing this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Manix I see grass's behavior as genuine, thus finding him not to really be as scummy as the wagon on him thinks he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Votals, D2 the fifth Grassbridger (7) - BBM, Prims, Vhaltz, kirsche, Shinori, Objection! Objection! (7) - Polydeuces, SB, Shin, Vennobennu, Elieson, Refa, Grassbridger Not voting - scorri, Manix Here's the time to phase end~! You've got 50 minutes remaining. Hammer is 8! Edited December 2, 2013 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Even if I get lynched, I'd just like to applaud everybody for consolidating so nicely. Should lead to good wagon analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 dammit Manix why'd you have to leave ugh Vhaltz unvote pls so we can deadline lynch Objection, I'd much rather him than Grass if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaltz Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm actually considering unvoting Grass if only because he seems to be putting in 10x the effort that Objection is and we might be on the way to a no lynch otherwise. Holy shit SB get in here =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaltz Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The point Grass brought up about Objection's claim being too simple is not good because my role is simple too, I get nothing other than doublevote, but that argument is just so bad and desperate that I just don't see scum bringing it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Actually, is there anything to be learned from just the fact that we have perfect consolidation at this point? Also speaking of effort: lol the Bizz/Manix slot has as many posts as the next two combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm actually considering unvoting Grass if only because he seems to be putting in 10x the effort that Objection is and we might be on the way to a no lynch otherwise. I can consolidate (via unvoting Objection) if the only options are between that and a no lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaltz Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm just seeing the amount of posts that Grass is churning out in the last few hours and I have trouble believing that a newer player as scum could be this consistently active without sounding scummy as fuck in every post ffffffffffffffffffffffff I'm probably really dumb for doing this but I have to get back in class minutes ago. ##Unvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The point Grass brought up about Objection's claim being too simple is not good because my role is simple too, I get nothing other than doublevote, but that argument is just so bad and desperate that I just don't see scum bringing it up? It's bad FYPOV because you have a simple role, ok. (I don't recall if you ever explicitly said that that was all you were, but it could be implied since mayor is strong.) But really there's so much other role shenanigans that have already happened, do you really think it's that bad? Maybe you're an exception. Anyway, I'm not absolutely saying he's hiding part of his role, but I am saying that I'm significantly more dubious of a simple claim in this game than I would be in other games, all other things being equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Objection! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 we have 24 minutes, since my lynch > no lynch (as far as I can tell). I'll consider self hammering 5 minutes into phase end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Objection! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It's bad FYPOV because you have a simple role, ok. (I don't recall if you ever explicitly said that that was all you were, but it could be implied since mayor is strong.) But really there's so much other role shenanigans that have already happened, do you really think it's that bad? Maybe you're an exception. Anyway, I'm not absolutely saying he's hiding part of his role, but I am saying that I'm significantly more dubious of a simple claim in this game than I would be in other games, all other things being equal. There's all there is to it at my role. Why would I hide stuff so close to phase end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 There's all there is to it at my role. Why would I hide stuff so close to phase end? Eury did. Gee, I wonder why she hid the Godfather and Janitor parts of her role? Also there's literally no point FYPOV to you self-hammering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Objection! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Eury did. Gee, I wonder why she hid the Godfather and Janitor parts of her role? Also there's literally no point FYPOV to you self-hammering. Of course, I'd much prefer you being lynched. But I'd rather be lynched than hindering town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 We don't need hammer. Eury was deadline-lynched without it. (I made that same mistake last deadline too.) Deadline lynch requires at least 1/3 of living players, which you have at 7 of 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Objection! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 We don't need hammer. Eury was deadline-lynched without it. (I made that same mistake last deadline too.) Deadline lynch requires at least 1/3 of living players, which you have at 7 of 18. I'm dumb for forgetting. Welp I guess this is it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Oh wait 18 isn't the number of living players, it's 16, but I guess kaoz doesn't count because otherwise that would make hammer 9, so 15 players who count, 1/3 of them is 5. You still have enough but so do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 SB SAY SOMETHING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Not caught up, targetted shinori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 We have ~10 minutes to deadline, he'd better type fast! Quick reads: Still going for Objection, but Grass saying that Objection's roleclaim is a lie because it's too simple is dubious to me, partly due to Kay's role but also because we only know the roles of like six people out of eighteen. Kay was a simple martyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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