ErrantDShepherd Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 ...the battle sprites have a ton of pillow shading going on, mainly the middle two. Their designs don't really match their mugs either, and seem just bland... Think you can make these more interesting, as you have done better works in the past... But right now on the custom battle sprites just too plain design wise and needing work shading wise. Mugs are alright though. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Yeah it was difficult to work with the female hero/Echidna...too much stuff that had to be tweaked and removed. Is there a female fighter sprite that I can ref? Thinking about using an assassin for Milo instead of a rogue. Oh, and you saying mugs are alright made my day xD EDIT Tried to fix Ciara. Her shirt WAS terribly pillow shaded...added shoulder pads and used different legs. Changed Milo to an assassin base. Edited February 27, 2015 by Dragoncat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 WoC antagonists: Nyra, Valmas, Xemar. This time with mugs, and Xemar's horns and claws have been colored silver, cause they are in the artwork I made of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Ooh, not bad at all! I would've given the wyvern arms and made Xemar's dragon form bipedal though, not just because I prefer them that way, but also to keep consistency, because that's how Tellius wyverns and dragon laguz look. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Wow, I've shown you Cerai, Leo, and Rannoc and you just now decided to say that? xD Tellius wyverns might have arms, and the dragon laguz might be bipeds, but I have the right to tweak things, especially minor ones like that. Wyverns are defined as being two limbed dragons. IS can't seem to decide on that. I mean I used to make them just standing on their legs and with arms, but I changed it. Dragons just look more awesome standing on four legs imo. Otherwise they look like they belong on Barney or Dragon Tales. I even change the adult dragons from the PS1 Spyro games to be quadrupeds. My avatar is one of them for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Um, okay... I don't consider those tweaks to be minor, nor do I think the dragon laguz look anything like they belong in Barney or Dragon Tales, but they're your sprites and your choice. I know wyverns are typically defined as arm-less dragons, but imo, they look weird that way to me. And I just think bipedal dragons are more badass-looking than quadrupedal ones. They also make me think of dinosaurs like the T-Rex and Spinosaurus, only with wings and slightly larger arms. And sometimes standing more upright. This is just what I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Well here's the thing. Dinosaurs =/= dragons. Suppose they're the closest thing we had irl, but by that logic, the wings would be feathered. Dinosaurs evolved into birds and a lot of scientists believe raptors had feathers. The armless wyverns from Awakening and Sacred Stones have grown on me. And growing up with Spyro...my dragon laguz kinda resemble him. Spyro was the first thing I got into that made me love dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 That doesn't matter to me. Pterosaurs were basically winged dinosaurs, you know, and they didn't have feathers. Also, dragons are mythological creatures, so how they look can vary. They don't ALWAYS have to be quadrupedal. I've always liked dinosaurs and I also liked the sword-wielding dragon enemies in Zelda: Twilight Princess. Interestingly, I had created this long before TP even came out... Then came the dragon laguz in Tellius. So you could also say I got used to seeing bipedal dragons. But fine, you can leave your dragons inaccurate to in-game designs. I can't stop you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yep. I like dinosaurs too :) And you're right, they can look however you want. I was used to seeing Spyro run around on 4 legs so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Amazing how just using a different pose on the base sprite makes my dog laguz look so much better! I've included differences stat and appearance wise. Have to fix the beasts now...and when I do, you'll see that the mammal laguz tribes aren't copies of each other. Foxes for example, while they appear to be just like cats, are slightly different stat wise. And all dog laguz are weak against ice magic. Beasts are weak against fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Taking a hint from Errant, updating the topic title when there's an update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghast Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Amazing how just using a different pose on the base sprite makes my dog laguz look so much better! I've included differences stat and appearance wise. Have to fix the beasts now...and when I do, you'll see that the mammal laguz tribes aren't copies of each other. Foxes for example, while they appear to be just like cats, are slightly different stat wise. And all dog laguz are weak against ice magic. Beasts are weak against fire. Since when do foxes and cats look a like? they look nothing a like haha. And I kinda don't understand how they are weak to ice. All three can live and strive in the winter. as for the sprites, idk. They all look way too similar. And the Mauthe Doog/gwyligaifhoafiigi or whatever the fuck it is reference has been done to death. And tbh is a really poop reference to begin with and I really hate it when people use them as bases. Maybe you can find a real picture of a fox for example, and reference off that? Many spriters do that, it's both challenging and rewarding because you actually can see they anatomy differences between animals. And then end result isn't so... Mauthe Doog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 I meant statwise foxes and cats seem similar. Both have high speed. But while foxes also have high luck, cats have high skill instead. Weak to ice is just so they have another difference. Beast laguz weakness is fire magic. It's true that they can handle cold weather, but there are also feline species that live in the desert/can handle heat, and yet fire is the weakness IS chose. My headcanon adds ice magic and as you've seen, a new laguz tribe for wolves. If I kept fire as their weakness ice would be the odd one out, the only one that isn't good against a laguz tribe. Using the mauthe doog I can guarantee that it'll be FE style. I still have a ways to go before I can do full custom...there's a good reason it's used to make laguz. It's the closest thing there is in the GBA FE sprites. If it ain't broke don't fix it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghast Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I meant statwise foxes and cats seem similar. Both have high speed. But while foxes also have high luck, cats have high skill instead. cats have 9 lives tho okay nevermind lol Weak to ice is just so they have another difference. Beast laguz weakness is fire magic. It's true that they can handle cold weather, but there are also feline species that live in the desert/can handle heat, and yet fire is the weakness IS chose. My headcanon adds ice magic and as you've seen, a new laguz tribe for wolves. If I kept fire as their weakness ice would be the odd one out, the only one that isn't good against a laguz tribe. eh, your head not mine xD Using the mauthe doog I can guarantee that it'll be FE style. I still have a ways to go before I can do full custom...there's a good reason it's used to make laguz. It's the closest thing there is in the GBA FE sprites. If it ain't broke don't fix it... I agree that they are the closest thing, but even so, they are still not good. They are starving demon dogs. and most sprites i've seen trying to fill them out has either made them deformed and/or poorly shaded. It already requires custom work right off the bat. another reason is that it's a really obvious reference and most times the only thing people can go off of. So to me its like if people just took like the myrmidon and slapped a skin on it and was like 'hey check me out!' Which doesn't really have any room for improvement. And it's hard for me to give what you're doing any positive feedback. Which I assume is what you are looking for, right? You don't even need to try to ref real animals. You can go on spriters resource and look up wolves or dogs, and compile a master sheet of sheets that you think could fit in the fe spriting style. And have the mauthe doog as a ref along side it. Then compile it all, and poke at it until you have something that looks like you were thinking outside the box. At that point we can see what is possible to improve, and then you can reach closer to more custom spriting levels. You'd be surprised on how easy that is. That's what I did with Dewey's sprite and now look ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Okay, that's fair...atm though I really like the way it looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghast Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 that's fine lol but there's room to improve and that's also fine :o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think they look cool, except for the tails. They...um...look like a certain man part, imo. ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think they look cool, except for the tails. They...um...look like a certain man part, imo. ._. OH GOD WAT. Weirdest comment I've ever recieved...seriously? *squints at them* Nope. I think they look like canine tails.... And I thought I had a dirty mind xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sorry, but they just don't look like tails to me, they look like man parts. I'm sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Well I suppose that can be fixed...does the thicker fox tail not look like it? Because I can use it for the other two and make the fox's more thicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think it's that the tails are too rounded at the ends. And a tad too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Huh...I thought they looked somewhat pointy at the ends. But I'll see what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Lord Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't think your tails look like dicks, don't worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't think your tails look like dicks, don't worry Thank you. I thickened the ends of them anyway. Did that before you posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Beasts added, hopefully the dog tails don't look like a certain part of the male anatomy now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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