Water Mage Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Speaking of Pokken online, I started to notice a lot people spamming moves. For example, I've ran into at least seven different Chandelure players who did nothing but spam the beam move, and almost every Lucario I faced spammed ranged attacks. That is not say using the same move a lot times is bad. I'm a Gardevoir player, and I tend to use Magical Leaf a lot in Duel Phase, but that's usually to pressure my opponet. Using nothing but the same move all the time is simply ridiculous. Edited March 30, 2016 by Water Mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotty Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Oh wow this sounds super frustrating, :/ Yeah, it sucks. Speaking of Pokken online, I started to notice a lot people spamming moves. For example, I've ran into at least seven different Chandelure players who did nothing but spam the beam move, and almost every Lucario I faced spammed ranged attacks. That is not say using the same move a lot times is bad. I'm a Gardevoir player, and I tend to use Magical Leaf a lot in Duel Phase, but that's usually to pressure my opponet. Using nothing but the same move all the time is simply ridiculous. I do wish Lucario's projectiles had a bit less priority. Field Phase is always a pain with them. I don't play Gardevoir so I'm not sure what your options are, but for Braixen at least I can beat them at mid-range. As for Chandelure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah, it sucks. I do wish Lucario's projectiles had a bit less priority. Field Phase is always a pain with them. I don't play Gardevoir so I'm not sure what your options are, but for Braixen at least I can beat them at mid-range. As for Chandelure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1xRnCkXwaw Actually, I believe Gardevoir's projectiles have priority over Lucario's, but they spam it so much, it's priority matters little. And about that Chandulere video, I can see what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) The beam move sucks if you use the street fighter approach... focus attack, dash forward for any other projectiles then jump the beam. Pikachu can counter that crap with a thunder outright. For this reason, I don't see that many spamming Chandelures in the D bracket. What are your people's ranks in ranked here? Edited March 30, 2016 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotty Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 In my experience they usually fire off some small homing-ish projectiles before the beam, ensuring that you can't counter absorb it all. Not saying it's impossible to get around, it just takes a bit more than simply countering. It is pretty free for Pikachu though, yeah, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) In that case, after the 4th small projectile, cancel the counter with a dash to the side. I might have a video somewhere that shows me pretty much shutting down a spammy one. I'll see when I get home. Or tomorrow. Edited March 30, 2016 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotty Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Oh, awesome! I'd love to learn that, it'd help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 That spam is a pretty tame problem to someone else's post earlier about the Shadow Mewtwo projectile hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) I'm E rank still, maybe that's why I run into a lot of spammers? And yeah, Pikachu's Thunder is pretty great. I usually deal with spammy Chandelures by using Magical Leaf. And I've experinced Shadow Mewtwo's projectile hell, but not by much, probably because the Shadow Mewtwos I run into are usually beginners, people with 0 fights and 0 wins, so I haven't fought with many good Shadow Meatwo players. Edited March 30, 2016 by Water Mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I fully expect my 75% win rate to drop horrendously as I pass through the D bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Wow, a lot of children are playing this game? I'm really surprised to hear that. Well, not THAT surprised since Pokemon IS geared toward children. But I expected a little more of an even ratio between the number of kids and number of adults playing. This game's mechanics seem really complicated and like only adults would really understand them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Don't underestimate children. Chances are, a bunch of them have a more solid understanding of the mechanics than the people at IGN who docked their review points for "overwhelming mechanics". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 They complained about "overwhelming mechanics"? Seriously? It's actually pretty simple. Makes me wonder if IGN will ever review a fighting game like Guilty Gear and Blazblue...What would they say about them? And when I was speaking about children, I wasn't talking about them being bad players. I was talking about them being sore losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was responding to Ana with that comment. I agree that a good chunk are definitely sore losers that would D/C. ...IGN sucks with fighting games, essentially. Pokken is ridiculously dumbed down in complexity of inputs and execution. But surprisingly deep when it comes to the strategic aspect of the genre. I've even seen an article somewhere where pro fighting game players comments that it's deeper than they expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I see... And yeah, Pokken is actually pretty deep when it comes to strategy. Maybe it's because all of the fighters feel very different from each other, and play very differently as well. There are no similar characters in Pokken to begin with. Though I really don't mind clones. There's also the fact there huge variety of supports. We can't also forget that this game has a "weapon triangle" of sorts. Edited March 31, 2016 by Water Mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Didn't find any clips of my pikachu vs. laser spam... sorry. But what I do have is for pika mains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Kamon Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 So it seems I'm #6 in the world. #1 in Italy. Currently highest rank in the world (S3). Somebody halp. This game just diz gheim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I almost want to get destroyed. What's your win ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Kamon Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) I almost want to get destroyed. What's your win ratio? 69% I was 80% until D rank, then dropped horribly to 58% as I approached B rank, and started to rise again until now. It's really hard when you only get +00,02% per win, though. Edited April 14, 2016 by Alfred Kamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 sexy And hohoho, Shadow Mewtwo bullet hell has been nerfed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Kamon Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Thank goodness. I couldn't stand that infinite combo, or Miracle Eye in general. >.< Now watch as people learn to spam with Gardevoir and Suicune P.S. lewd Rey, commenting "sexy" to that "69"... Heh heh. And if that "I want to get destroyed" was an offer, I'd gladly accept your challenge. Edited April 14, 2016 by Alfred Kamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethfc Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 69% I was 80% until D rank, then dropped horribly to 58% as I approached B rank, and started to rise again until now. It's really hard when you only get +00,02% per win, though. Seeing your win rank fall like that is the worst thing about the online here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Kamon Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Seeing your win rank fall like that is the worst thing about the online here I think there's nothing wrong with that. The higher you go, the stronger your foes become. It's meritocracy. Edited April 15, 2016 by Alfred Kamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Only watched stuff around, anyone know why Reshiram is considered broken pre-patch and what nerf did it get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotty Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 It did way too much damage before on easy punishes (landing from a jump), coupled with the attack debuff it was too good to not use (besides Fennekin). The nerf was a damage nerf. It's a lot more reasonable now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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