Dragoncat Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Just what the poll says. The only herons we see are royals, and the game says stuff about "royal white winged herons". So I found myself wondering if this means only royals are white or not. I'm leaning towards not, maybe the royals are just brighter white. The other two bird tribes don't come in different colors. Hawks are always brown/tan and ravens are always black. But the other options in the poll are there anyway. Anacybele(I can finally spell that) borrowed from real life and said they're blue, like the great blue heron. Idk...and why are Lehran's wings black? Ravens are black...makes no sense. Seriously wtf IS. Also a headcanon of mine is that they can use light magic. No race/tribe can afford to be completely defenseless. Maybe they just don't use it often and as a result, their galdr is stronger? I'd think that after having their home burnt they would start honing their offensive magic more. There's nothing that suggests they use talons and beaks like the rest of the bird tribe. And light magic isn't too far of a stretch from galdr. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Lehran's wings are either black or brown, I can't remember clearly. Well, the Galdr of Sorrow (lower enemy biorhythm to it's trough) is kinda offensive. Useless because it plops them in harms way, though. Though I do remember a looooooooong time ago when I was an innocent child I had a heron OC who could use Light magic. Forgotten most of everything about her though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Well, there's a heron in real life called the blue heron, so I personally colored my generic heron sprites blue. But since Lehran's wings are black, they can be that color too, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Lehran's wings look more like a dark brown than black to me, especially when compared to the wings of Naesala or any of the other ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Lehran has dark brown wings, actually :V And the herons are specifically stated to be pacifists, even to the point of being vegetarians, so I doubt they had Light Magic. Edited January 28, 2015 by Kon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Oh. I guess I just didn't look at him long enough to notice the hint of brown there. xP Well, doesn't really matter to me anyway, I colored my herons blue even while knowing Lehran was a different color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Well, the Galdr of Sorrow (lower enemy biorhythm to it's trough) is kinda offensive. Useless because it plops them in harms way, though. But seriously, who cares about biorhythm...useless addition imo. Has little to no effect on anything. And the herons are specifically stated to be pacifists, even to the point of being vegetarians, so I doubt they had Light Magic. Doesn't mean they can't have some way to defend themselves. I mean, cows and deer and animals like that are peaceful vegetarians, but when they're threatened they will fight back. There is nothing in nature that's entirely defenseless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 But seriously, who cares about biorhythm...useless addition imo. Has little to no effect on anything. Doesn't mean they can't have some way to defend themselves. I mean, cows and deer and animals like that are peaceful vegetarians, but when they're threatened they will fight back. There is nothing in nature that's entirely defenseless. Bliss is good for quick grinding if you don't need a second action. Not to mention rl herons are... large predatory birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Not to mention rl herons are... large predatory birds. Yep they eat fish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The heron laguz ARE capable of fighting back using some kind of magic, actually, now that I think about it. Remember the "forbidden magic" that Reyson was about to use to wipe out all the beorc until Tibarn made him stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Yep they eat fish... Reyson: That’s very kind, but my diet… Heh. It’s fairly limited. You know, I used to be disgusted by my thin, frail body. So one time I performed a little experiment. I got all the foods that Tibarn likes–raw meat, cold fish, insects–and ate them. I ate them all.Ike: That doesn’t sound good. What happened?Reyson: I stared death in the face for ten days. You’ve never seen a laguz so green! I guess we herons are just meant to eat fruits and nuts for our entire lives. And IIRC that was an ancient galdr Edited January 28, 2015 by Kon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) I found it kind of odd that the herons didn't think of needing some kind of defense. Like, fast forward to the present day, you see Tibarn guarding the Heron royal family, and at the end of RD they all merge into one kingdom. I feel like that kind of protection would have prevented the heron massacre. Edited January 28, 2015 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 That was the point tho :V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Reyson: That’s very kind, but my diet… Heh. It’s fairly limited. You know, I used to be disgusted by my thin, frail body. So one time I performed a little experiment. I got all the foods that Tibarn likes–raw meat, cold fish, insects–and ate them. I ate them all. Ike: That doesn’t sound good. What happened? Reyson: I stared death in the face for ten days. You’ve never seen a laguz so green! I guess we herons are just meant to eat fruits and nuts for our entire lives. And IIRC that was an ancient galdr RL Herons eat fish is what she was saying. It's a bit odd that the Heron Laguz don't, that considered. I'm fairly certain it was a ritual of some sort, because he needed an altar. Edited January 28, 2015 by Glaceon Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 That was the point tho :V But you shouldn't need genocide to realize that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Nasir: The heron clan possess no fighting skills. Their tribe survived by living a life of peace and piety within their forest. Unlike other laguz, they never focused on developing their strength for the purposes of combat. Anyone with any knowledge of laguz would have known such a thing. At the very least, the citizens of Begnion would have known this. However, they had lost their leader, and in their grief, they cared little for the truth. They were merely looking for some way to vent their rage and despair. Isn't that true...Apostle? Why bother developing their combat skills when they never bothered anyone and kept to themselves in their forest? The other bird laguz frequently had scuffles with the beorc since they often took to piracy, especially the Ravens, so they had to have at least some combat prowess. But the Herons were a peaceful race, they literally aren't made for combat. Hell, even being near negative atmospheres take a heavy toll on them since they are incredibly sensitive to that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The idea that they would never ever have to defend themselves is really naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah, research says that there are no herons that actually eat fruits and nuts. Cranes, which are similar, do though, but they also eat meat. My guess is that since the other laguz eat meat and such, IS wanted to add a contrasting tribe that's different from the others so they don't all seem similar. Herons look graceful and majestic too, so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 The idea that they would never ever have to defend themselves is really naive. This. Monks/bishops/priests in FE are usually pacifists too, but they can use light magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) There are unused map models for non-royal Herons (and battle models too, but they seemed really unfinished) in FE9, but I can't link to them at the moment. Well, if the Herons could fight back, the Serenes Massacre wouldn't have been so disastrous... Not all the Herons died in the fire; many were mauled by angry townsfolk who probably had very limited fighting ability. Edited January 28, 2015 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 There are unused map models for non-royal Herons (and battle models too, but they seemed really unfinished) in FE9, but I can't link to them at the moment. Well, if the Herons could fight back, the Serenes Massacre wouldn't have been so disastrous... Not all the Herons died in the fire; many were mauled by angry townsfolk who probably had very limited fighting ability. I think I've seen those unused models. And I think they might have tried, but they were outnumbered and caught by surprise so they couldn't do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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