SwordsAreShiney Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Even with his bow, his speed is still below the other snipers for the most part, and most of your other units... and then he still has his sub-par strength and defense as well. Not to mention, being a Crap Brigade unit, he's basically automatically at least 10 levels below Shinon at the start of part 4, which doesn't really change without massive Bonus EXP investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrion Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Well, some characters *Cough Meg Cough.* need BEXP abuse to be any good at all, but when you overuse BEXP, they can turn out pretty well. Leonardo is turning out pretty well on my runthrough, but of course, Personal Experience Means Nothing and all that. Guess I'll have to see how he stacks up on Endgame... I will admit however, I'm not training him because he's good, I'm training him because I wanted to see for myself how he turns out, as I neglected most of the Dawn Brigade in my first run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordsAreShiney Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Actually, because bonus exp only does three stats, using it on characters at lower levels (when they don't have much capped) can be detrimental to them, unless you reset lots, hoping for the best stats and stuff like that. For example, Fiona, with bonus exp, will mostly gain speed/defense/res/luck, so, if you boost her a lot, her offense will blow, even though her strength growth is decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Wow...I'm surprise no one picks Leonardo, why's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordsAreShiney Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 He's trash, lol. <_< Poor speed + poor defense + meh strength + being Dawn Brigade = massive suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 He's trash, lol. <_<Poor speed + poor defense + meh strength + being Dawn Brigade = massive suck. I disagree. Leonardo is the only subpar unit of the Dawn Brigade, but even he isn't horrible. The others (Micaiah, Sothe, Edward, Nolan) have always been very reliable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaonohiokala Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Apparently, Leo's supposed to be good looking. I hear he has a fan club of anime girls hiding somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordsAreShiney Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I disagree. Leonardo is the only subpar unit of the Dawn Brigade, but even he isn't horrible. The others (Micaiah, Sothe, Edward, Nolan) have always been very reliable for me. Yeah, but they end up super underleveled, and most of them are outclassed by their GM counterparts. Shinon >>> Leo; Mia >>> Eddie (though Zihark is debatable); Haar >>> Jill; Anyone >>>> Fiona; Anyone >>>> Meg; Mist >>> Laura; Nephenee >>>> Aran; though, Nolan's really good, Micaiah's h4x, and Sothe's cool too, though he starts to suck in part 4. Volug's awesome as well. Gatrie >>> Tauroneo, but Tauroneo's amazing as well, though. That's not to say that the units are terrible (well Leo, Meg, Fiona, Laura...), just most of them compare poorly to their GM counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yeah, but they end up super underleveled, and most of them are outclassed by their GM counterparts. Shinon >>> Leo; Mia >>> Eddie (though Zihark is debatable); Haar >>> Jill; Anyone >>>> Fiona; Anyone >>>> Meg; Mist >>> Laura; Nephenee >>>> Aran; though, Nolan's really good, Micaiah's h4x, and Sothe's cool too, though he starts to suck in part 4. Volug's awesome as well. Gatrie >>> Tauroneo, but Tauroneo's amazing as well, though.That's not to say that the units are terrible (well Leo, Meg, Fiona, Laura...), just most of them compare poorly to their GM counterparts. Ever wonder why Nintendo decided to through a crapload of BEXP at us? I agree with most of your comparisons, but Mist and Laura shouldn't be compared because they are too different and I found Fiona to be WAY better than Oscar. (Who would be her GM counterpart) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yeah, but they end up super underleveled, and most of them are outclassed by their GM counterparts. Shinon >>> Leo; Mia >>> Eddie (though Zihark is debatable); Haar >>> Jill; Anyone >>>> Fiona; Anyone >>>> Meg; Mist >>> Laura; Nephenee >>>> Aran; though, Nolan's really good, Micaiah's h4x, and Sothe's cool too, though he starts to suck in part 4. Volug's awesome as well. Gatrie >>> Tauroneo, but Tauroneo's amazing as well, though.That's not to say that the units are terrible (well Leo, Meg, Fiona, Laura...), just most of them compare poorly to their GM counterparts. when u first get all those characters, all the >>>>> do make sense, and for me Boyd >>>>> Nolan mainly cuz Boyd always had way more strength than Nolan. But just put the dawn brigade with tibarn's group in part 4 and the 2nd chapter your on, they will surpass everyone cuz of all the laguz u can slay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 when u first get all those characters, all the >>>>> do make sense, and for me Boyd >>>>> Nolan mainly cuz Boyd always had way more strength than Nolan. But just put the dawn brigade with tibarn's group in part 4 and the 2nd chapter your on, they will surpass everyone cuz of all the laguz u can slay That was the chapter Zihark coined the term "sub-human slayer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrion Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 That was the chapter Zihark coined the term "sub-human slayer." Ironic that Zihark would be the one killing every Laguz in sight, no? :P That chapter is just mountains upon mountains of free EXP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Ironic that Zihark would be the one killing every Laguz in sight, no? :P That chapter is just mountains upon mountains of free EXP... Of course, that was the best part. He broke an iron and a steel sword, both of which had been full. Started a lv. 18 Swordmaster, ended a level 10 trueblade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 and Leonardo is on the board! who voted for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaonohiokala Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 ^read my above post for an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ^read my above post for an idea. and r u a part of this fanclub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrion Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I poured a bunch of BEXP into Leo to get him from Lvl 13 Sniper to Lvl 1 Marksman last night... I sort of did it as a joke, expecting him to get screwed, but I actually managed to abuse his Speed stat (Among a couple other stats), making it so he can actually double things. *Gasp.* Since then he's pretty much been destroying everything in sight. Can I take back my vote for Shinon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaonohiokala Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 and r u a part of this fanclub? that was a pretty dickhead move you did there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 hey that was out of plain curiosity no offense intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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