solrocknroll Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 For one, there's still a great amount of variety with just Akaneia. Eleanor can start with Virion and use Jeorge, Ryan, and Norne as Mirages like Personas. The other people have plenty of choices, although Itsuki would only have Marth, Chrom, and Lucina. For one., with this seemingly really small cast, having characters from other continuities would just not work. For instance, as a hypothetical you could find that Chrom, Caeda, Cain, Virion, and Merric could be the default Mirages. Personally, they capture their archetypes perfectly. Adding Tellius or Elibe characters at least as main Mirages would not be as well received as Akaneia's cast. I doubt that Florina has the recognition of Caeda, Palla, Catria, Est, and Sumia for instance. It's simply the best choice for an experimental first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 They technically said mostly Archenea, and I'm okay with that. I get Tiki, and at the very least, Kiria's stage outfit takes inspiration from Lyn's design. Honestly, if we get Marth and Wrys along side Tiki, I'll be glad, and this does make sense from a marketing standpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Honestly, I'm going to pass on this game if there ends up being zero Tellius. Hard to justify buying a Wii U anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think the main reason for griping is people find Archeneia overdone, I know I do. And I also very much dislike FE13, so yeah, I'm still all for having Jugdral/ELIBE/Magvel/Tellius alongside the confirmed two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviddo Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I see people talk about this a LOT. But honestly, has anyone other than Chrom been confirmed from Awakening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I see people talk about this a LOT. But honestly, has anyone other than Chrom been confirmed from Awakening? Gangrel and Aversa, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooledEvergreen Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 From a marketing standpoint, this makes a lot of sense. However, God knows that this is going to annoy a lot of FE veterans who would want characters from Elibe and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I see people talk about this a LOT. But honestly, has anyone other than Chrom been confirmed from Awakening? Elena appears to have Virion, and depending on who you ask Kiria has either Soren or Tharja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Honestly, I'm going to pass on this game if there ends up being zero Tellius. Hard to justify buying a Wii U anyway. what Okay, the Tellius thing is sort of understandable, but actually sort of ridiculous. It's not like you're playing AS Chrom. It's literally a Persona/Demon in everything but name. It's like complaining that Carmen is a Ann's Persona and not, say Eponine. It seems really asinine from an objective view point, except for the fact that the Mirages are just here for advertising. They obviously aren't the main course. EXCEPT the fact that you said a Wii U is hard to justify. Now THAT is the problem here, not the Tellius part. I own at least 20 games including titles like Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze, Smash Bros, Wonderful 101, 3D World, Mario Kart, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, and Hyrule Warriors. In addition, #FE is coming. Woolly World is coming. Xenoblade X is SUPER coming, and Pikmin 4 will likely be a Wii U title. If you simply have too narrow tastes then whatever. But no one can deny this console's library. In fact, I would buy a Wii U for Xenoblade and Pikmin alone. Shows how amazing they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 What's asinine is that you think there's some objective quality to how people should prioritize their purchasing decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 What's asinine is that you think there's some objective quality to how people should prioritize their purchasing decisions. The only thing I'm asking is why though. That was probably bad phrasing but I don't really see how Tellius characters can make or break a game. I mean, none of them are THAT interesting outside of Micaiah, and Ike's just a meme-machine. Again, you aren't actually controlling these characters. You're controlling Tsubasa and Kiria and so forth. Imagine that they're like different religions being represented in Persona, except this time with a really mediocre blemish (being Elibe) that thankfully will likely get nothing. although you still never acknowledged the wii u thing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 It obviously wouldn't make or break the game. I'm on the fence on deciding whether I want to play this game or not, and having Tellius characters, since Tellius is my favorite iteration of the FE franchise, would me something I can't resist. As for the Wii U, I only have the budget for now to decide between a Wii U and a PS4, and unless a new Zelda game comes out, the latter has more interesting games for me. And on top of that, we're already talking about the next console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 the latter has more interesting games for me. Your opinion is your own business, and while I may have my own opinions they're not a factor you need to take into account. On topic, I don't mind Akaneia more attention, but Jugdral could do with some more love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Falchion Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I am perfectly okay with the focus being on Akaneia and Awakening's characters for obvious reasons, and it makes sense for reasons already given. I think characters from the other games, preferably Jugdral, would be nice but not necessary imo. Maybe DLC could be an option of it sells well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Jugdral has at the ery least influenced the game, as the main character's "Lord" costume is very clearly inspired by Sigurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 ^That's true, I pointed this out earlier, but Kiria's (Pop Songtress) stage outfit takes clear inspirations from Lyn. I imagine the Mirages themselves will be purely Archenea, but costumes and sth will be influenced by other FE games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Okay, with Tharja, Virion, and Draug, this only proves my point. Draug and Tharja are the most known in their classes, and Virion is far better than a generic Wolt or something. Ironically, some people are actually whining about the lack of other Mirages, but I think it makes the game better without them. I'm actually more hyped for this than Fates, but probably just because Fates has been out for months in Japan and has lost that newness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Okay, with Tharja, Virion, and Draug, this only proves my point. Draug and Tharja are the most known in their classes, and Virion is far better than a generic Wolt or something. In Japan, maybe, although in America I don't think many would argue if you said Oswin was the most well-known. Not sure who's the most popular over there, but here Draug doesn't seem to well-known or thought of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 ^Yes, Draug isn't that well known here, but you do realize big N only takes the Japanese fanbase of FE into account when deciding this stuff right. I mean, there's a reason only the Japanese character popularity polls are used for the fanservice DLC maps, and the fanservicey artstyle remains used despite less than positive reception over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You know, that's another reason I'm passing on this game (other than the superior stupidity it looks like, imo). If Nintendo is going to release stuff in the west, they should take the western fanbase into consideration just as much as the Japanese one. It doesn't make any sense to release a game in one region and not take its fanbase into account at all. And some people wonder why there's "less than positive" reception at times here as MCProductions pointed out? Also, Atlus clearly doesn't know who the most popular FE characters are if they're only using Awakening and Archanea characters. Ike topped the most recent Japanese poll, while Marth is second, Lucina third, and Lyn, Ephraim, and some other characters not present in this game are in the top 10 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 ^Yes, Draug isn't that well known here, but you do realize big N only takes the Japanese fanbase of FE into account when deciding this stuff right. I mean, there's a reason only the Japanese character popularity polls are used for the fanservice DLC maps, and the fanservicey artstyle remains used despite less than positive reception over here. Yeah, I'm aware, that's why I said I wasn't sure who was the most popular in Japan. I mean, Oswin isn't just known because he was the first knight we got, but also because he was sort of the first one that could actually easily be used. So I'm curious if any are known better in Japan. I guess Draug makes sense though, since after him they were treated with Valbo, the abysmal knights that are Ardan and Hannibal, that one axe armor from Thracia who the game clearly hates considering all the sword armors around his joining time, and other such units as the first knights in other games. Also, in response to the previous post which was made while I was typing that Even though it'd be nice if they'd try to appeal to both audiences, it's just a smarter business decision to try to appeal to their larger and more... profitable audience. I still don't like how it's Archanea only, but even I can't deny that it's a good choice from a business standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The only Arkaneia/Ylisse only characters thing is just an ice tipper for me, not a deal breaker in of itself I'm a fan of Persona and Devil Survivor, so I feel like I should have been interested in this, but the fan service outfits and obsession with J-Pop culture and its capitalist excess kind of made it so that I was only going to be interested in this game if it at least had characters/mirages I liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I haven't liked a single one of FE's artstyles yet, so that doesn't bother me too much. I will say I'm still hyped for this because it features exclusively Archenean characters tho. As much as I would like to see Elibe represented, I still get my second favorite FE character, who's already confirmed to be in this, as Hatsune Miku of all things, and I might get my 4th favorite character to boot. I definitely understand your gripes tho, so I hope there is a gamepad gameplay option for people in the situation above. At present, my only gripe with this game honestly is Tharja, why is my least favorite FE character appearing everywhere these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Even though it'd be nice if they'd try to appeal to both audiences, it's just a smarter business decision to try to appeal to their larger and more... profitable audience. I still don't like how it's Archanea only, but even I can't deny that it's a good choice from a business standpoint. Well, like I said, it would BE more profitable in the west if the fanbase there was considered at all. If you don't care about those fans, why even release anything for them? Makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well, like I said, it would BE more profitable in the west if the fanbase there was considered at all. If you don't care about those fans, why even release anything for them? Makes no sense to me. You're assuming that no one in the West is interested in the game, but that's not true at all. Remember, this is essentially a Persona game with FE characters thrown in, and Persona games do have a fanbase in the west. They're just a different crowd than the usual FE crowd, and this game is meant to appeal more to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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