quackpenguin Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 i hate kellam he is annoying and generals are a bad class reply if you agree if you don't agree, you're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaitlynMellark Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 i hate kellam he is annoying and generals are a bad class reply if you agree if you don't agree, you're wrong I hate Generals I only like it for Pavise. And I don't really like Kellam (sadly share my birthday with him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxmonste Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Well, that was quick. I disagree, I think Kellam is one of the more entertaining characters in the game despite his weird gimmick, he's funny and kind hearted. And I think he's a decent tank. Good defense growth and modifier, access to the Pavise skill and Renewal, good to have early on in the game as a knight for tanking physical hits. Overall, I think Kellam is a good character. But I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Well, that was quick. I disagree, I think Kellam is one of the more entertaining characters in the game despite his weird gimmick, he's funny and kind hearted. And I think he's a decent tank. Good defense growth and modifier, access to the Pavise skill and Renewal, good to have early on in the game as a knight for tanking physical hits. Overall, I think Kellam is a good character. But I'm wrong. The thing about his gimmick is that it gets stale really quickly. I mean, almost every support conversation he has, I expect the other character to be doing something, and Kellam to somehow get involved with it without being noticed. His modifiers aren't that special IMO, Frederick beats him in everything except Luck and 1 point in Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 everyone not chrom/avatar/frederick sucks in lunatic anyways so i guess you're right OP but no one tells me what do to do so you're wrong and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimeanRoyalKnight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 If you don't use pair up is big DEF shines, but I'm still not keen on using him because I don't like him enough, and I feel like I have better units to train (in a No Pair Up No Grind situation). I went for a +DEF -MAG Avatar so I'd say I have enough slow tanks as it is. The worst part about Kellam though, is that some actually think his "Can't be seen! LOL!!!" gimmick is funny and if you talk about him they go I'VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A GUY, WHO IS HE??. I'm okay with this in funny conversations but when it happens in serious and semi-serious ones I wish I had a different sense of humor. Also sometimes in the game it's downright mean (see: all of his endings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandragon Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 ok cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviddo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 i hate kellam he is annoying and generals are a bad class reply if you agree if you don't agree, you're wrong i love kellam he is a sweetheart and a decent tank im replying even though i dont agree i think this is opinion based so no one is objectively right or wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 #PassesLuna&PaviseToKid #PassesLethality&TomefaireToo #GivesFirstJavelinInEarlyGame #ActuallyUseful+DefPairupBonus&MoveIfGK #StillHasSillyGimmick #TheQuackIsYou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxmonste Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 His modifiers aren't that special IMO, Frederick beats him in everything except Luck and 1 point in Defense. Frederick does indeed beat him in luck, actually, Kellam has -2 Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Frederick does indeed beat him in luck, actually, Kellam has -2 Luck Right, so Frederick beats him in everything except Magic. He even has 2 higher base Defense, which Kellam fixes with the default +2 Defense Knight Skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 PSA to everyone: this isn't Gfaqs. Don't pretend like it is. everyone not chrom/avatar/frederick sucks in lunatic anyways Not so. Nowi is at the top of the top, while Panne, Sumia and Cordelia are also extremely good, while Lissa can draw from a free pool of exp starting instantly and in some situations can get up with Robin and Nowi in power. Stahl and Miriel are both good early-mid term investments as well, and that's not even getting into the kids (Lucina, Morgan and Laurent always rule, Severa, Yarne and Nah have decent chances of being good as well). Things are more rigid in Lunatic+, but there's still a decently sized host of units who are legitimately good and worth training up. Kellam's usefulness: he serves well on higher difficulties as a non-Fred +Def pairup (either for Fred when he's away from Robin, or Robin when he/she's away from Fred), but is rarely worth investing in. As a parent, he really in legitimately bad, having no children for whom he's the best in a minmax setting and very few (namely Inigo) for whom he can even be B tier. His -2 Spd is simply too much of a curse, and Tomefaire/Luna can't make up for it when Ricken exists. Were he to have a better third class than Thief and not be a net negative to all girls who wish to lead, he might be able to do something, but Kellam is simply fundamentally useless as a parent in the current meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nym Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 K​ellam? Who is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 PSA to everyone: this isn't Gfaqs. Don't pretend like it is. Yeah, for a second I thought I was in fftf. Anyway my opinion: Kellam is kind of pointless when Frederick exists. He's decent for distracting a bunch of myrmidons in the early chapters I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The OP is biased, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxmonste Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 PSA to everyone: this isn't Gfaqs. Don't pretend like it is. No, I knew that. I was just playing along, that's why I said I was wrong. And why I was shocked to see it. I thought I was in FFTF too, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't like Knights much but pair up makes Kellam better than many of his predecessors (not amazing or anything, but okay enough), since he can pair up with someone more mobile and then they can switch to him when his tanking is needed. Works best with someone who already has good speed but could use more Str/Def, e.g. Sumia (would be an amazing combination if they could support), Sully, Cordelia, etc. Obviously he's not as good as Frederick but there's no shame in that.As a character, I find his gimmick pretty funny. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinehollow Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 K​ellam? Who is that? I was literally hoping waiting for that. I never use Kellam,so I don't really have an opinion on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I guess Kellam is pretty Kell-lame. Ah? Ahhhhh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 #PassesLuna&PaviseToKid #PassesLethality&TomefaireToo #GivesFirstJavelinInEarlyGame #ActuallyUseful+DefPairupBonus&MoveIfGK #StillHasSillyGimmick #TheQuackIsYou #This Actually, hes pretty decent as a thief too if you dont want a knight/gen but want a tanky thief. I only used him a couple of times and he functions pretty well for what he can do. Sure is better than Ricken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Even though I like Generals, I have to agree that Kellam sucks (at least, initially). After all, that's why Sumia is my General of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenWings Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 B-But I like Kellam.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 My personal view of kellam is plotwise: i feel sorry for the guy...: / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAstraWolf Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 "If you don't agree you are wrong" Hey look the classic "my opinion is better" argument. Sorry but for that you don't deserve my post you pleb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I didn't even know Kellam was a character that evokes disdain. I mean he seems like such an inoffensive character that you either feel bad for him or you just ignore him (which is his in-story gag). Then again I can't tell if the op sounds like gamefaqs on purpose or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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