HappyHawlucha Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Right, here we go, Week 4, Ophelia, daughter of Odin, which ties her to the Ylissean royal house. C'mon, pumped for the discussion, LET'S DO THIS! CLASS OPTIONS: Base: Dark Mage > Sorcerer /OR/ Dark Knight Parallel Seal: Samurai > Trueblade /OR/ Weapons Master *MOTHER'S CLASS* Marriage Seal: Deere/Foleo- Rod Knight > Maid /OR/ Strategist Shigure- Pegasus Warrior > Falcon Warrior /OR/ Golden-Kite Warrior Lutz- Wyvern Rider > Wyvern Lord /OR/ Revenant Knight Ignis- Knight > General /OR/ Great Knight Siegbert- Cavalier > Paladin /OR/ Great Knight Buddy Seal: Midoriko- Herb Merchant > Great Merchant /OR/ Puppeteer Soleil- Mercnenary > Brave Hero /OR/ Bow Knight Skill Lists for these classes: http://serenesforest...s/class-skills/ http://serenesforest...s/class-skills/ Personal Skill- Blossoming Mind- When Ophelia is carrying 3 + tomes, crit rate + 10 BASE GROWTH RATES: Mother's Base Growth Rates + Ophelia's Base Growth Rates / 2 = Ophelia's Final Base Growth Rates BASE CAP MODIFIERS: Mother's Base Cap Mods + Odin's Base Cap Mods + Ophelia's Base Cap Mods / 3 = Ophelia's Final Base Cap Mods *Support Options are all people she can Marriage or Buddy Seal with, feel free to post about any of her supports and discuss them.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Nope, the growth rates are the average of personal and variable parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguidrag Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 For the Marriage classes, i think she can get almost(if not all) class of game marrying kamui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riolumaster Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 For anyone who did OdinxElise, how did Ophelia turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luninareph Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 For anyone who did OdinxElise, how did Ophelia turn out? I haven't done it, but it looks like it should turn out great. Assuming I'm running the numbers correctly, Elise!Ophelia should have the following growths: HP 43, STR 18, MAG 47, SKL 40, SPD 45, LUC 65, DEF 25, RES 30 ...which is pretty fantastic. Ophelia doesn't really care if she has Rod Knight unless you really need another healer, but Odin likes it to get Tomebreaker because his SPD and RES are bad, and Elise loves getting Dark Mage. So I think it's probably a good pairing. On a more personal note with Ophelia, I honestly didn't like Lissa from FEA too much, but I think part of that was that I married her my first time through the game and her S-Rank with the avatar was pretty awful. If I hadn't tried to marry her, I think I would like her a lot more. So I'm trying to keep an open mind for Dark!Lissa here. I like what I've read about her personality so far, so I think I'll like her just fine, and I definitely plan to use her because I LOVE LOVE LOVE her passive. If I was an FEFates character I could not think of a passive I would want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguidrag Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm planning to do a Felicia!Ophelia what would become of her? And sounds good to make a Dark blood Kanna daughter to this Ophelia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luninareph Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm planning to do a Felicia!Ophelia what would become of her? And sounds good to make a Dark blood Kanna daughter to this Ophelia? Oh! Well, again, assuming I'm doing the numbers correctly: HP 47, STR 20, MAG 37, SKL 42, SPD 40, LUC 60, DEF 25, RES 28 Felicia!Ophelia is basically Elise!Ophelia-lite, but not enough to really hurt Ophelia. The only really noticeable difference is 37% MAG growth instead of 47%, but that really isn't as bad as it sounds because Sorcerer has a +25% MAG growth, so either way she'll have over 60% MAG growth in the class. So growths-wise, it's fine. There IS a difference in stat caps, though. Elise!Ophelia: STR +0, MAG +5, SKL +0, SPD +1, LUC +3, DEF -2, RES +1 Felicia!Ophelia: STR -1, MAG +4, SKL +2, SPD +1, LUC +2, DEF +0, RES +1 So as you can see, Elise makes Ophelia a little more of a glass cannon and Felicia makes her a little more evenly rounded. They're both really good options, I should think. As for marrying Felicia!Ophelia to get a Dark Blood!Kanna... well, if you're planning on using Dark Blood!Kanna with the Dragonstone, you definitely prefer Felicia!Ophelia to Elise!Ophelia, because the Dragonstone is a tanking weapon and Felicia!Ophelia will give Kanna better DEF. So, yeah, I should think it's probably a fine idea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaopan1987 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 One play through I plan to do Elise!Ophelia!Kanna just because of a certain fan comic and to make a super witch. :D... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguidrag Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Oh! Well, again, assuming I'm doing the numbers correctly: HP 47, STR 20, MAG 37, SKL 42, SPD 40, LUC 60, DEF 25, RES 28 Felicia!Ophelia is basically Elise!Ophelia-lite, but not enough to really hurt Ophelia. The only really noticeable difference is 37% MAG growth instead of 47%, but that really isn't as bad as it sounds because Sorcerer has a +25% MAG growth, so either way she'll have over 60% MAG growth in the class. So growths-wise, it's fine. There IS a difference in stat caps, though. Elise!Ophelia: STR +0, MAG +5, SKL +0, SPD +1, LUC +3, DEF -2, RES +1 Felicia!Ophelia: STR -1, MAG +4, SKL +2, SPD +1, LUC +2, DEF +0, RES +1 So as you can see, Elise makes Ophelia a little more of a glass cannon and Felicia makes her a little more evenly rounded. They're both really good options, I should think. As for marrying Felicia!Ophelia to get a Dark Blood!Kanna... well, if you're planning on using Dark Blood!Kanna with the Dragonstone, you definitely prefer Felicia!Ophelia to Elise!Ophelia, because the Dragonstone is a tanking weapon and Felicia!Ophelia will give Kanna better DEF. So, yeah, I should think it's probably a fine idea :) Thanks, now returning for ophelia, how good is missitelain? For what I read it is usefull but not the best weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luninareph Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks, now returning for ophelia, how good is missitelain? For what I read it is usefull but not the best weapon Well... I mean, just looking at the stats should tell you everything you need to know. It's an E-Rank tome with 9 MT, 70 HIT, and 10 CRIT that gives SKL and RES +1. It's an E-Rank tome with stats comparable to C-Rank. Obviously it's no Excalibur, but it'll at least cover Ophelia until she can use Lightning or Rainarok. Also, Ophelia needs to equip lots of spells so she can trigger her passive, so you might as well keep it on her forever, even if she's not using it, just so she's not taking a tome away from somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raccoon844 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I know this may sound very weird, but how does the stat caps look for a Luna!Ophelia? Sol seems good on her. I just want to know so that i can be pleased that my pairing of Owain and Severa did paid off back at FE:A. I might go Elise!Ophelia for IK whenever i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hard to get her because Odin is just not a good unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks, now returning for ophelia, how good is missitelain? For what I read it is usefull but not the best weapon A good tome early on but out-shined by tomes you get mid-late game. As a Sorcerer, you're going to want to abuse her naturally higher crit rating so Mjölnir is a much better boost and does greater crit damage (x4). Lightning is another option when you want to try multiple hits instead of crits to take down an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Dozel Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I know this may sound very weird, but how does the stat caps look for a Luna!Ophelia? Sol seems good on her. I just want to know so that i can be pleased that my pairing of Owain and Severa did paid off back at FE:A. I might go Elise!Ophelia for IK whenever i can. Assuming the growth formula is Ophelia's growths + Luna's/2 (rounded up) : HP 43% STR 23% MAG 25% SKL 33% SPD 45% LUK 48% DEF 33% RES 30% Caps: 0STR/2MAG/1SKL/2SPD/2LUK/2DEF/0RES Sol is good but it's not worth it, trust me. Odin wants a magic wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luninareph Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Assuming the growth formula is Ophelia's growths + Luna's/2 (rounded up) : Do we know if that's the formula for inheritance yet? I know there's been some debate over what it is. I was using Odin+Ophelia+mother/3 for my numbers, but I don't know if that's accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Dozel Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well I personally don't believe that's the case. With aptitude, my Aqua!Soliel should have a 80% STR growth, and she frequently didn't gain any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguidrag Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Lighting, Mjonir and Missitelain can be forged? I still didn't understand the forge mecanics of fates Also for the Mage woman that Odin can Marry other than the mentioned here we have Nix FKamui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Dozel Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Misstletainn can be forged but you only get one in the game, I believe, so it's still not forgable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luninareph Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well I personally don't believe that's the case. With aptitude, my Aqua!Soliel should have a 80% STR growth, and she frequently didn't gain any. Huh. That's pretty difficult to believe no matter how stat growth is inherited... Lazward STR = 45% Soleil STR = 60% Azura STR = 50% Method 1: 45 + 60 + 50 = 155/3 = ~52% Method 2: 60 + 50 = 110/2 = 55% Aptitude is 10% and I'm assuming you had her as a Hero for another 15%, so yes, you're right: either way you should have had at least 77% and at most 80% STR growth. You must have gotten quite unlucky to get such poor gains D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguidrag Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I see that many tomes have the effect of halving the magic for the next atack, how this works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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