Merik2013 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) oh so if we give out that swimsuits, they will get other items instead? So what's the missing item in that patch if it swaps around the item list?I broke it down earlier in the thread, but here's the relevant snippit:knowing what I know about the way the accessory shop patch changed the item reference list, these are the items that once that patch is in use will crash other player's list. 1. Item Reference 3D Emblem Shield 2. Item Reference 3E Hoshidan Mask 3. Item Reference 3F Love Bracelet 4. Item Reference 40 Love Swimsuit Bare in mind that these items were moved to the bottom of the list by the patch, so if you had them before using the patch you wont have them after the patch is installed. I actually have my doubts as to whether or not they're even obtainable with the patch installed as some of these are supposed to be given to the players after conditions are met. Edited March 22, 2016 by Merik2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunho Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I broke it down earlier in the thread, but here's the relevant snippit: knowing what I know about the way the accessory shop patch changed the item reference list, these are the items that once that patch is in use will crash other player's list. 1. Item Reference 3D Emblem Shield 2. Item Reference 3E Hoshidan Mask 3. Item Reference 3F Love Bracelet 4. Item Reference 40 Love Swimsuit Bare in mind that these items were moved to the bottom of the list by the patch, so if you had them before using the patch you wont have them after the patch is installed. I actually have my doubts as to whether or not they're even obtainable with the patch installed as some of these are supposed to be given to the players after conditions are met. I understood that the files for the Swimsuits were completely erased from the USA release and, to restore them, the Team replaced some items for the swimsuits. But I thought the replaced items were irrelevant or low level stuff that no one would miss. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 oh so if we give out that swimsuits, they will get other items instead? So what's the missing item in that patch if it swaps around the item list? If you give then an item that doesn't exist, you could potentially give them a crash. And completely lock out their save file. Like the Octolings in Splatoon way back when. Just don't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raahaahaa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I understood that the files for the Swimsuits were completely erased from the USA release and, to restore them, the Team replaced some items for the swimsuits. But I thought the replaced items were irrelevant or low level stuff that no one would miss. Is that right? If I'm correct, what they did was they replaced the english accessory shop buy list and accessory registry with the Japanese version. You would still have all accessories, but certain ones listed(the ones that were listed) had their IDs changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofurun Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I was wondering if there's a tutorial for the patch- I really can't grasp the idea of it from the thread here. Also will applying the patch make it so I cannot revert to the normal settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanxus00 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 So this project is cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Steel Wing Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 If I'm correct, what they did was they replaced the english accessory shop buy list and accessory registry with the Japanese version. You would still have all accessories, but certain ones listed(the ones that were listed) had their IDs changed. I don't know precisely what they did but I know you can simply replace a couple files from the Japanese version to the English version and that works to make the removed accessories available. So this project is cancelled? Not this one, the fan translation is. That's the other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merik2013 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) I understood that the files for the Swimsuits were completely erased from the USA release and, to restore them, the Team replaced some items for the swimsuits. But I thought the replaced items were irrelevant or low level stuff that no one would miss. Is that right? They replaced the item ID list with the Japanese version's item ID list. To be clear, the game doesn't care what the item is called. when another player interacts with a character of yours that has an accessory on it will load up whatever item reference ID that character's accessory points to. If memory serves this patch will swap out the love bracelet for the shell swimsuit, so in that case the example is as follows: Your character is using the shell swimsuit which points to item id 3B. A player with an unpatched game then runs across your character. For them item ID is the Love Bracelet so they see your character wearing that instead. Following this it is likely that gifting someone without the patch a shell swimsuit will likely just result in them getting a love bracelet. The four items that actually cause problems with the patch are the four I listed in my post above this one. Unpatched those items are fine, but when you apply the patch any copies of those items you own become other items due to the item ids being moved around. For instance, the emblem shield on the localized version points to item ID 39. With the patch item ID 39 becomes the flower swimsuit and the emblem shield is moved to item ID 3D. Here's the problem though, item IDs 3D (emblem shield), 3E (Hoshidan mask), 3F (love bracelet), and 40 (love swimsuit) are all IDs that were completely stripped from the localized version. The result is that if an unpatched version ever tries to call on these IDs because they encountered a character from your patched game that is using one of those four accessories they will crash. Its because those item IDs lead to a null value in their game that they crash. Edited March 22, 2016 by Merik2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory3114 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Will this work on the game downloaded from the eshop? If so, could I have a set of instructions for doing so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luyairis Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Will this work on the game downloaded from the eshop? If so, could I have a set of instructions for doing so? It will if it's cfw. It's also very complicated to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory3114 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It will if it's cfw. It's also very complicated to do so. Eh, so then what's the most optimal/easy way to patch? Use a physical cartridge as well as what patching program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luyairis Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Eh, so then what's the most optimal/easy way to patch? Use a physical cartridge as well as what patching program? Physical cartridge + hans is the easiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory3114 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Physical cartridge + hans is the easiest. And this will give me all the features, right? Able to buy DLC (including other version + revelations), get online, better translations, accessories and voices, etc? Edited March 23, 2016 by Victory3114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude28 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 And this will give me all the features, right? Able to buy DLC (including other version + revelations), get online, better translations, accessories and voices, etc? If you're on the latest firmware and you use HANS, then you'll be able to do everything except for DLC, since it's different with DLC. I'm pretty sure you can buy DLC, but not use it since HANS currently does not support DLC (HANS will be updated later in the future to support DLC/updates). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuDawn Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 If you're on the latest firmware and you use HANS, then you'll be able to do everything except for DLC, since it's different with DLC. I'm pretty sure you can buy DLC, but not use it since HANS currently does not support DLC (HANS will be updated later in the future to support DLC/updates). I've downloaded and used the DLC maps in Fates with HANS multiple times. I've got the special edition so I have no way of checking if the DLC routes work (I'd guess not but I have no way of knowing). But the DLC maps definitely work perfectly fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad80 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I've downloaded and used the DLC maps in Fates with HANS multiple times. I've got the special edition so I have no way of checking if the DLC routes work (I'd guess not but I have no way of knowing). But the DLC maps definitely work perfectly fine. Huh, that's a new one. ...though now I recall, I saw a post on reddit's /r/3dshacks that Hax 2.7 was quietly released, which is the version that Smea said would have support for Hans loading DLC if he could manage it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuDawn Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Huh, that's a new one. ...though now I recall, I saw a post on reddit's /r/3dshacks that Hax 2.7 was quietly released, which is the version that Smea said would have support for Hans loading DLC if he could manage it. But I'm on 2.6 though. And I was able to do this at least a couple of weeks ago. So, even if my hax managed to magically update itself without me knowing, I was still able to do it before 2.7 was released. Edited March 23, 2016 by RikuDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunho Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 They replaced the item ID list with the Japanese version's item ID list. To be clear, the game doesn't care what the item is called. when another player interacts with a character of yours that has an accessory on it will load up whatever item reference ID that character's accessory points to. Oh, now I get it. The problem aren´t the swimsuits per se, but the original items whose IDs were swapped for IDs that don´t exist in the USA version. Going to keep in mind these 4 items, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfSlash Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Not this one, the fan translation is. That's the other thread. Wait so Team If is still working on the fan translation right? Because that's what I'm really looking forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunho Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Wait so Team If is still working on the fan translation right? Because that's what I'm really looking forward to. The original Team has finished their work (3 main routes + paraboles + some supports), the remaining supports will be continued by a new team. This thread is about the Content Restoration, you can learn more about the fan translation reading the latest posts here: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56220&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfSlash Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Alright and are people still working on amie restoration? And does the patch posted on the thread you linked me to apply to the US version of the game? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luyairis Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) People on the team are still working, but nothing we've tried works yet. And yes the patch is for NA. Edited March 23, 2016 by luyairis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory3114 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 But I'm on 2.6 though. And I was able to do this at least a couple of weeks ago. So, even if my hax managed to magically update itself without me knowing, I was still able to do it before 2.7 was released. Can anyone confirm a Birthright with Conquest and Revelations DLC will work with everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfSlash Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 People on the team are still working, but nothing we've tried works yet. And yes the patch is for NA. Awesome. Thanks. Hope you guys continue the work and try to restore the amie functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3lladvocate Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Yay, finally got the patcher to verify the XORPAD/ROMFS, generated a CIA for CFW, but when I launch it, it crashes right after the Nintendo 3DS screen. Do I need to use CART2 for some reason? Or should I export the .3ds instead and create a cia from that using SimpleCIA or w/e? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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