Hayato in Revelation

[wmh0520]

I am just before chapter 10 in Revelation and want to use Hayato. I've read that he is a good Oni Chieftain. He is level 10 but it almost doesn't seem logical to re-class him to Oni Savage with his high magic and lack of strength. Should I re-class him now and deal with the low damage or should I promo him later to Basara and then re-class? Thanks in advance!

[Wayward Alchemist]

Reclassing him isn't a bad option - his Str growth will be awesome and his base will be passable. His Mag growth will only be 5% less so it won't screw him there. It helps him a lot with Def and his Spd will still be good. The only thing that suffers is his Skl a bit.

[ILikeKirbys]

I didn't end up using Hayato, but for this question...

Get to whenever you'd promote him, go either Onmyoji or Basara, get a few levels if you want, then Heart Seal over to Oni Chieftain. There's no need to reclass now, since his strength is crap and Oni Savage doesn't seem to give much in the way of Strength growth (at least, not in my experience), so Oni Savage wouldn't be too useful (unless it gave him a respectable Defense growth? But then, Chieftain'd probably do that too, if not better, so still not necessary in my opinion).

But I could be wrong.

[Tuskoub]

I did

Lv 20 Diviner -> Lv 5 Basara -> Lv 15 Oni Chieftain -> Lv 20 Onmyoji

He turned out pretty well, I'd reccomend this

Edit: This gives him Tomefaire, Rend Heaven, Death Blow, Counter, and (Mag +2?) you can put whatever in here like Quixotic if you have an Eternal Seal

Edited April 2, 2016 by ElibianTactician

[GoXDS]

I didn't end up using Hayato, but for this question...

Get to whenever you'd promote him, go either Onmyoji or Basara, get a few levels if you want, then Heart Seal over to Oni Chieftain. There's no need to reclass now, since his strength is crap and Oni Savage doesn't seem to give much in the way of Strength growth (at least, not in my experience), so Oni Savage wouldn't be too useful (unless it gave him a respectable Defense growth? But then, Chieftain'd probably do that too, if not better, so still not necessary in my opinion).

But I could be wrong.

it's +20%/+15%/-5%/-10%/-5%/-5%/+20%/-10%. 15% Str extra is a good amount at only 5% Mag in while Tier 1

[ILikeKirbys]

it's +20%/+15%/-5%/-10%/-5%/-5%/+20%/-10%. 15% Str extra is a good amount at only 5% Mag in while Tier 1

Really? I wasn't aware of that.

And now that I checked his growths, Hayato'd actually do pretty well as an Oni Savage. Not sure I'd go away from Diviner (though in my case, Rinkah's been a consistently acceptable unit for me; if your Rinkah sucks, you may benefit more from Savage Hayato), but it's actually quite a bit better than I expected (especially Defense-wise, he has almost as much as Rinkah, with a far higher HP growth for some reason).

So, to change my answer to the OP's question, go Oni Savage if you want. You can reclass back to Basara after promotion, grab whatever skills you need, and jump back to Chieftain.

[Oshimos]

I like switching to Oni Savage after level 5; with Horse Spirit he gets really, really tanky. Like, tanked half of Birthright's endgame tanky. Rajhat can do it too if she has a good mother, but her Skill's pretty iffy sometimes.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Oshimos