Revelations Pairing Advice

[JediZelda]

Hey everyone,

So I'm willing to bet there's a million topics for this, but I need some advice. I have played both Birthright and Conquest, and now I'm about to start Revelation. I have already figured out the pairings for the first generation. Since there is no Apotheosis-like map to prepare for, I'm going for pairings that benefit both spouses as well as the child(ren) (with a few exceptions, noted below). I'm looking for where to put Corrin, as well as advice on how to pair up the children. Oh, and if there is a glaring error in the pairings listed, I would appreciate that being pointed out, too.

Pairings so far are as follows:

Leo x Sakura

Odin x Elise: This is about the only place Elise can go.

Hinata x Peri

Xander x Hinoka

Hayato x Nyx

Jakob x Azura: I was more concerned with Shigure than anyone else. I like the fact that he gets the wyvern line.

Benny x Beruka: since Ignatius seems to be one of the few who don't mind Beruka's horrid speed

Arthur x Effie: I wanted Setsuna here since I've already done this pairing, but I had no idea where else to put Effie

Kaden x Charlotte: for the Strength and Speed

Subaki x Oboro: Nearly everyone seems to want Oboro, but I decided I wanted a blue-haired not!Cordelia.

Saizo x Orochi: Since Orochi has to go somewhere. At least Asugi can use a Flame Shuriken.

Takumi x Kagero: Pretty much everyone wants Kagero, too. I think she ended up here due to process of elimination.

Ryoma x Rinkah: I guess? I wasn't sure where to put Rinkah at all.

Keaton x Camilla

Laslow x Felicia: Not exactly great, but I read on Reddit that Laslow and Soleil are one of the few physical father/child combos that can handle Felicia. Hayato, Odin, and Leo were already taken.

Kaze x Mozu

Silas x Selena

Niles x Setsuna

Azama x Hana: I'm unsure about this one, too. I know Azama and Mitama actually want a physical partner/mother, but does Hana get anything out of it?

I want to do a female Corrin, and I'm thinking about marrying her to one of the children (none of her nephews though). I can also have her replace one of the 1st generation women if they're absolutely terrible. Right now I'm leaning towards Effie!Percy. In that case, what are good Boons and Banes? Is there a class that Percy particularly wants that Kana could use as well? With these pairings, what do the other children want?

Thanks for any help!

[Nanima]

Go Azama/Effie, it makes for the most brutal Mitama.

[eclipse]

. . .or try this:

Azama/Kagero - Giant Strength mod go.

Takumi/Mozu - Takumi's Speed modifier blows, so Mozu helps to cancel that out.

Arthur/Camilla - Percy doesn't care about the negative Luck modifier, and Bowbreaker on a flying unit is a plus.

Keaton/Effie (have Effie pass down Certain Blow) - Velouria gets an insane Strength mod, and Certain Blow should help her accuracy issues. You'll need to have Effie A+ Mozu for this.

Laslow/Hana - Hana gets another sword class to her name, and Laslow/Soliel get access to Swordfaire.

Kaze/Felicia - "Wait, WHAT?!" Kaze has a pretty bad Strength modifier. This particular Midori will be really fast and magical (think Flame Shuriken shenanigans).

[Thor Odinson]

Ryoma/Rinkah is a fine place to put Rinkah.

[JediZelda]

. . .or try this:Azama/Kagero - Giant Strength mod go.Takumi/Mozu - Takumi's Speed modifier blows, so Mozu helps to cancel that out.Arthur/Camilla - Percy doesn't care about the negative Luck modifier, and Bowbreaker on a flying unit is a plus.Keaton/Effie (have Effie pass down Certain Blow) - Velouria gets an insane Strength mod, and Certain Blow should help her accuracy issues. You'll need to have Effie A+ Mozu for this.Laslow/Hana - Hana gets another sword class to her name, and Laslow/Soliel get access to Swordfaire.Kaze/Felicia - "Wait, WHAT?!" Kaze has a pretty bad Strength modifier. This particular Midori will be really fast and magical (think Flame Shuriken shenanigans).

Hmm... I like these. I almost went with Kagero/Azama originally, so I need little convincing to do that pairing. I have a couple of questions, though:

1. If I am remembering correctly, Mozu doesn't give Takumi any new classes from a Partner Seal. Is that still okay for Takumi? Does he need anything other than the speed boost?

2. How many Flame Shurikens are there in Revelation? Asugi and Midori will both need one, and I'll probably stick one on Felicia as long as she's a maid. It's been a while since I played Birthright, but in Conquest I only received one Flame Shuriken. Can you buy them at the weapon shop?

I'm glad Rinkah can go with Ryoma, because I wasn't sure where else to put her. But now that Percy is Corrin's nephew (not by blood I know, but still), I need someone else to go with her. Preferably someone physical. If I leave out all the nephews/relatives, that just leaves Hisame, Ignatius, and Asugi. Will any of them make a good Kana? What do they want in a partner?

Maybe I'll just say "screw it" and go for Shigure. Yeah, I know about the spoiler regarding Corrin and Azura, which is what is stopping me from choosing him now.

[Avalanche]

Can Takumi use a Bow? Yes? He's fine. All he really needs is the Fujin Yumi to be great.

[eclipse]

Hmm... I like these. I almost went with Kagero/Azama originally, so I need little convincing to do that pairing. I have a couple of questions, though:

1. If I am remembering correctly, Mozu doesn't give Takumi any new classes from a Partner Seal. Is that still okay for Takumi? Does he need anything other than the speed boost?

2. How many Flame Shurikens are there in Revelation? Asugi and Midori will both need one, and I'll probably stick one on Felicia as long as she's a maid. It's been a while since I played Birthright, but in Conquest I only received one Flame Shuriken. Can you buy them at the weapon shop?

I'm glad Rinkah can go with Ryoma, because I wasn't sure where else to put her. But now that Percy is Corrin's nephew (not by blood I know, but still), I need someone else to go with her. Preferably someone physical. If I leave out all the nephews/relatives, that just leaves Hisame, Ignatius, and Asugi. Will any of them make a good Kana? What do they want in a partner?

Maybe I'll just say "screw it" and go for Shigure. Yeah, I know about the spoiler regarding Corrin and Azura, which is what is stopping me from choosing him now.

Azama/Kagero nets a Mitama with amazing hair, a crazy-high Strength modifier (+6, if I'm not mistaken), and access to Ninja (which means she can either be a Master Ninja nuke and clone herself for twice the pain). Have Kagero pass down Rend Heaven for even more pain. The only thing that sucks about this pairing is the support chain.

1. The only class I feel like Takumi wants is the Samurai line (because he should be able to use Life or Death really well), which he can obtain from his brother.

2. Flame Shurikens can be purchased, after the armory is upgraded enough.

[JediZelda]

Sorry, I worded the Kagero/Azama thing wrong. I meant that I didn't need any convincing to marry them, since I almost chose it initially. Anyway, these new pairings look good. Thanks!

[Nanima]

Takumi actually gets Herb Merchant from Mozu if I remember correctly. It's Oboro he doesn't get anything from, because her primary class (Spear Fighter) is his secondary already.

And yes, Takumi works just fine without most skills, but if you really want to get the most out of using him, some good skills like Death Blow, Quixotic, Astra, Luna etc. turn him into a god.

[JediZelda]

Takumi actually gets Herb Merchant from Mozu if I remember correctly. It's Oboro he doesn't get anything from, because her primary class (Spear Fighter) is his secondary already.

And yes, Takumi works just fine without most skills, but if you really want to get the most out of using him, some good skills like Death Blow, Quixotic, Astra, Luna etc. turn him into a god.

I guess I'll find out once Takumi and Mozu get an S support. I don't imagine he would really use the Herb Merchant skills, but it's nice to have options rather than simply nothing. I can have him get an A+ support with Ryoma for Astra, like Eclipse suggested.

So I've changed my mind and decided to go with a male Corrin, since female Corrin has slim pickings once you take away all the nephews/relatives. I was thinking of having him marry Kagero!Mitama, with either a Lancer or Fighter talent. Would Speed or Strength be a better boon for this scenario? What about a Luck bane?

[eclipse]

For the male Corrin you mentioned, it depends:

- Strength boon: +10 Strength on Kana before bane modifiers. Great for making things with Wary Fighter cry.

- Speed boon: Better offensive stat spread, IMO. Better for taking out characters with slightly lower Speed modifiers (Kiragi with sloppy parents, for one).

It depends on what you want Kana to do. For bane. . .

- Defense: Tends to work well on most non-tank builds.

- Luck: It works, but I don't like the negative Speed modifier if a Strength boon is picked.

- Magic/Resistance: See Luck.

[TheWerdna]

Go Azama/Effie, it makes for the most brutal Mitama.

Seconding this. Not only does it do a similar job was Azama/Kagerou in making a Mitama with an insane strength, but it is actually just about the only support Azama support I actually like and one of the few localized Effie supports that's actually written well.

Then you can rotate pairings around a bit to have Arthur x Kagerou which is pretty good and has the added bonus of giving Bucky, er, I mean Percy the ninja class for when he inevitably becomes a communist cyborg assassin.

That would leave Takumi/Hana, whicj I honestly have no clue if its good or mot though

Edited June 29, 2016 by TheWerdna

[Nanima]

Seconding this. Not only does it do a similar job was Azama/Kagerou in making a Mitama with an insane strength, but it is actually just about the only support Azama support I actually like and one of the few localized Effie supports that's actually written well.

Then you can rotate pairings around a bit to have Arthur x Kagerou which is pretty good and has the added bonus of giving Bucky, er, I mean Percy the ninja class for when he inevitably becomes a communist cyborg assassin.

That would leave Takumi/Hana, whicj I honestly have no clue if its good or mot though

I'd say Takumi/Hana is second only to Takumi/Camilla in making for an amazing Kiragi. She gives him awesome strength and speed mods and growth (although she does leave him somewhat fragile, but it's not like you are going to use him to tank hits anyway), hands out Samurai as a marriage class so Takumi can go buddy with Leo or Jakob for Vengeance/Tomebreaker shenanigans, and their supports are actually quite cute imo.

She also helps out Takumi with his speed on pairup.

[JediZelda]

I see that Effie actually gives Mitama a better speed modifier than Kagero does, which surprises me a lot considering their classes (or perhaps it shouldn't, since I already know Azama and Mitama are better off in physical classes). But can Azama and Mitama really use the Knight tree that Effie passes? I was leaning toward Lancer for Corrin's talent, but maybe Fighter could work better? I've pretty much decided on Speed boon and Defense bane. I'm still working on children pairings, though.So many choices!

[TheWerdna]

I see that Effie actually gives Mitama a better speed modifier than Kagero does, which surprises me a lot considering their classes (or perhaps it shouldn't, since I already know Azama and Mitama are better off in physical classes). But can Azama and Mitama really use the Knight tree that Effie passes? I was leaning toward Lancer for Corrin's talent, but maybe Fighter could work better? I've pretty much decided on Speed boon and Defense bane. I'm still working on children pairings, though.So many choices!

Well not particularly in of itself, but it does have access to Pavise and Luna which are pretty alright skills. Honestly its in much a similar boat as with Kagarou as her mother where she has a lot of good options for skills she can have Mitama inherit from secondary/buddy seal classes.

Though to be fair Effie!Mitama does pretty well as General given her resulting stats