FE_Joshua Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Okay, so like many others my opinions on Awakening are mixed. I don't have much of a problem with characters or even the rather basic story but more so the gameplay I've decided that I want to remake awakening as maybe a rom hack of FE7 but before i started I wanted to see if anyone was even interested in the idea or if there were some blatant problems that I am just not seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escotanner Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I think it's a great idea! I'm not sure how you'll do stuff like the children and supports, but still, I'm excited to see what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalEnchanter Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I actually like the sound of that idea. Sure you, might have to forgo the pair-up system and the such, but this project is definitely something I'd be interested in nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE_Joshua Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 I feel supports would be as simple as applying the patch to remove support limits. I would assume it impossible to replicate the children/marriage system of Awakening so maybe I could just create children chapters that unlock as the game progresses. I'm not quite sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalEnchanter Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Yeah, that's definitely not a problem. What I'm referring to is getting units to be able to attack side-by-side and block out attacks. Of course, that's not a necessary mechanic, but it is a nice addition, which Fates improved upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycolorz5 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Personally, I think dual guard should be easy enough to do. Dual attack sounds like a pain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE_Joshua Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 I also forgot to mention that if anyone is interested in helping anyway at all message me privately. Also rewrite the script or keep awakenings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalEnchanter Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 It could be interesting to rewrite the script, but if you do try to keep it true to the original story of Awakening. Maybe just make some lines less out of place or seem better, up to you really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I also forgot to mention that if anyone is interested in helping anyway at all message me privately. Also rewrite the script or keep awakenings?If you can pull off fixing the gaping plot holes, I say go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE_Joshua Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 If you can pull off fixing the gaping plot holes, I say go for it. If you're talking about the time travel stuff there's just no fixing that. However if there are other plot holes I've since forgotten do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 If you're talking about the time travel stuff there's just no fixing that. However if there are other plot holes I've since forgotten do tell.Grima suddenly not needing the Fire Emblem to revive (despite everything up to that point had come back to the Fire Emblem), Yen'fey actively trying to kill his sister despite apparently trying to protect her, and some things that are borderline being more just not explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalEnchanter Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Grima suddenly not needing the Fire Emblem to revive (despite everything up to that point had come back to the Fire Emblem), Yen'fey actively trying to kill his sister despite apparently trying to protect her, and some things that are borderline being more just not explained. Well, the reason Validar needed the Fire Emblem to revive Grima was because he didn't have a vessel ready for it, and was just going to revive him directly. Grima came to the present as the future Robin, and due to "Future Grima" already being there, there was no need to revive the present Grima due to him already being there. That's how I understand it, at least. Edited July 10, 2016 by mysticalEnchanter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enaluxeme Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Isn't FE8 better as a base than FE7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE_Joshua Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Isn't FE8 better as a base than FE7? Yeah good point I could make the route split where a certain someone dies near the beggining of awakening and have some totally new story and maps there as well? If that idea isnt too crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Well, the reason Validar needed the Fire Emblem to revive Grima was because he didn't have a vessel ready for it, and was just going to revive him directly. Grima came to the present as the future Robin, and due to "Future Grima" already being there, there was no need to revive the present Grima due to him already being there. That's how I understand it, at least.That still makes no sense, Future!Grima was helping Validar try to steal the Emblem. If he didn't need it to revive, why didn't he do that sooner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalEnchanter Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 That still makes no sense, Future!Grima was helping Validar try to steal the Emblem. If he didn't need it to revive, why didn't he do that sooner? I have no idea. Meh, plot does need more fixes than I thought after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet_Basil Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I can help you with some of the indoor maps :p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE_Joshua Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 I can help you with some of the indoor maps :p. That would be wonderful! PM me for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiahou Yuan Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Awakening on gba? Very interested. Just ask. how many chapter you will create? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moblin Major General Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Plothole fix: Validar needed the Fire Emblem to ready the Dragon's Table for the influx of willing sacrifices. Once the sacrifes came, Grima had the strength to revive fully. Class adjustments: Donnel@Journeyman, Libra@Bishop, Brady@Monk, Ricken@Pupil, Emmeryn@Bishop. Other: need custom animation for Taguel, edited in battle sprite for Eliwood, and edited battle sprite for Eirika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enaluxeme Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Brady should be a healer, actually. It's kinda part of his character since he's so frustrated because he can't fight in his chapter and supports. Anyway, maybe splitting STR and MAG would be better, since it will allow to directly replicate Awakening's classes (but please add light magic D:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Brady should be a healer, actually. It's kinda part of his character since he's so frustrated because he can't fight in his chapter and supports. Anyway, maybe splitting STR and MAG would be better, since it will allow to directly replicate Awakening's classes (but please add light magic D:) Awakening's Magic is based on Shadow Dragon's and FE3's Magic, so I think adding Light magic would take away from that. But as a gameplay element, it would be SOOOO much better for map design and strategy. So it's really a decision on whether to keep Awakening's magic as it is (Although, I would suggest making Nosferatu available to non-Dark Mage classes, as it fits with Awakening being in the same world as FE1 and 3), or go with GBA FE's magic triangle. Option number two is looking pretty tasty. I also pose another question: Will you remove Weight? This, again, comes down to Gameplay Vs. Source Matterial. Will be following this. It's what I've wanted for a loooooong time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonPancham Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Change the chapter goals. Some should be defend e.g. Chapter 6 (protect Em). Or reach x point by this turn/defend this point (the awakening chapter, protect the shrine from destruction maybe? Rescue Emmeryn before turn X?). Possible escort chapters (Chapter 7, escort emmeryn to Castle?). Chapter variety is a must. lAlso, Lon'qu should be enemy recruit with Chrom. Have him start off as 'Marth's second in command' who is resentful and joins you to beat 'Marth'. Also, have some enemy recruitable characters or villages different e..g Tharja recruitable via Robin as well. I'm more of a suggestions person, I know nothing about editing and hacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliwan Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Awakening's Magic is based on Shadow Dragon's and FE3's Magic, so I think adding Light magic would take away from that.Aura? Y'know "Light Magic for Women"? (Although, I would suggest making Nosferatu available to non-Dark Mage classes, as it fits with Awakening being in the same world as FE1 and 3)Resire. Resireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresireresire or go with GBA FE's magic triangle.So... Add Light Magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeraldrox Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm really, really interested in this and hope it comes to light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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