Darizuka Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Unless you're doing some sort of optimized Lunatic run (if it's your first time doing Conquest, DON'T DO THIS), pairings aren't super-vital. You can make something like Arthur x Nyx work (don't do this either, unless you really want Malig Knight Percy). So figure out which of the cast you like, and just run with it! Would Corrin x Camilla work out? or will it seem a bit of a sister brother complex? or Flora? or.. what do u think is a good pairing for Corrin? also combat-wise for Kana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalanche Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Kana's main niche is their potential to have ridiculous Stat Modifiers if their parent was a 2nd Gen Unit. However, this really doesn't mean much in Conquest, where you flat out can't grind w/o DLC and Eternal Seals are quite the investment. So basically, Kana is just going to end up as a second Corrin with no Yato access. Depending on your Corrin's build, this can work, but they really won't be super noteworthy. If you absolutely want to use Kana in Conquest, decide what build you wanna go with (Physical or Magical) and make sure that role has synergy with what you pick as Corrin's Talent (as they will inherit it). Corrin's spouse should (of course) compliment this role (I.E. don't have Felicia be a physical Kana's mom). Since you're going with a Male Corrin (I assume), then good choices for a Physical Kana would be Camilla, Mozu or Effie. Maybe even Azura if you can get around terrible bulk. Magic wise, Elise, Nyx and Felicia are pretty much your only options. Note that Camilla probably makes the best Mixed Kana if you want to run something like Basara, Dark Knight or Nohr Noble. Mozu also counts if Kana inherits Aptitude. Edited September 19, 2016 by Avalanche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Kana's main niche is their potential to have ridiculous Stat Modifiers if their parent was a 2nd Gen Unit. However, this really doesn't mean much in Conquest, where you flat out can't grind w/o DLC and Eternal Seals are quite the investment. So basically, Kana is just going to end up as a second Corrin with no Yato access. Depending on your Corrin's build, this can work, but they really won't be super noteworthy. If you absolutely want to use Kana in Conquest, decide what build you wanna go with (Physical or Magical) and make sure that role has synergy with what you pick as Corrin's Talent (as they will inherit it). Corrin's spouse should (of course) compliment this role (I.E. don't have Felicia be a physical Kana's mom). Since you're going with a Male Corrin (I assume), then good choices for a Physical Kana would be Camilla, Mozu or Effie. Maybe even Azura if you can get around terrible bulk. Magic wise, Elise, Nyx and Felicia are pretty much your only options. Note that Camilla probably makes the best Mixed Kana if you want to run something like Basara, Dark Knight or Nohr Noble. Mozu also counts if Kana inherits Aptitude. its hard to invest time and effort on Mozu in this unless i give her "Paragon" but even then its still quite limited like REALLY limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalanche Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) I had plenty of EXP to go around on Hard!Conquest when I gave Mozu Paragon, but Mozu doesn't really even need to be trained that much if all you want her to do is mother Kana. Literally just have her be Corrin's backpack. Sure, Kana's bases won't be quite (and I'm talking 1-2 points per stat) as good as if they were both trained, but Aptitude should kick right in to help Kana out. Regardless, did you have a particular class you wanted Corrin/Kana to be? That's probably the best place to start when deciding Kana's Mom. Edited September 20, 2016 by Avalanche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 I had plenty of EXP to go around on Hard!Conquest when I gave Mozu Paragon, but Mozu doesn't really even need to be trained that much if all you want her to do is mother Kana. Literally just have her be Corrin's backpack. Sure, Kana's bases won't be quite (and I'm talking 1-2 points per stat) as good as if they were both trained, but Aptitude should kick right in to help Kana out. Regardless, did you have a particular class you wanted Corrin/Kana to be? That's probably the best place to start when deciding Kana's Mom. Im thinking Camille for that extra.. Raw brutality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Speaking of Mozu, she's your only unpromoted bow option aside from Niles (and Anna if you have her DLC). As for chapters, I'd be wary of 10, 12, 17 and 20, to name a few. Edited September 20, 2016 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Speaking of Mozu, she's your only unpromoted bow option aside from Niles (and Anna if you have her DLC). As for chapters, I'd be wary of 10, 12, 17 and 20, to name a few. ITT: Nyx doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Speaking of Mozu, she's your only unpromoted bow option aside from Niles (and Anna if you have her DLC). As for chapters, I'd be wary of 10, 12, 17 and 20, to name a few. its quite hard. The Chapter 10 is the one with the endless horde? that got me down to my last 4-5 people... Chapter 12 my main was outted too fast so im redoing it it was all going quite well but Hazama and his Magical horde was quite brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) ITT: Nyx doesn't exist. Doh >_< its quite hard. The Chapter 10 is the one with the endless horde? that got me down to my last 4-5 people... Chapter 12 my main was outted too fast so im redoing it it was all going quite well but Hazama and his Magical horde was quite brutal. Yeah. Azama doesn't show up in chapter 12. Like I said earlier in the thread, chapter 12 is the one with the pots. Also, as for Paralogues, I wouldn't wait too long to do Ignatius or Forrest's paralogues if I were you. Edited September 20, 2016 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Doh >_< Yeah. Azama doesn't show up in chapter 12. Like I said earlier in the thread, chapter 12 is the one with the pots. Also, as for Paralogues, I wouldn't wait too long to do Ignatius or Forrest's paralogues if I were you. Im at the quest where Im at the hilltop buddhist temple/shrine thingy Rinkah, Setsuna, Kaze, Hazama and Hinoka confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeddlingMage Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You want to save Felicia for either going Odin, Niles, or Leo. Try out some of these pairings: Xander x Charlotte Leo x Felicia Keaton x Camilla Niles/ Odin x Elise Niles/ Odin x Nyx (your choice here) Silas x Mozu Kaze x Azura Laslow x Selena Jakob x Peri Benny x Bekura Arthur x Effie In this setup if you are the male avatar you are going to have to marry one of the kids, Flora, or Anna (if you use the DLC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeddlingMage Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 its hard to invest time and effort on Mozu in this unless i give her "Paragon" but even then its still quite limited like REALLY limited. There are a couple of ways to help Mozu out. One of them is to have Mozu become an Archer. Another way is for Mozu to become a Dread Fighter. If you plan to use Mozu, get her out of Villager once you get her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Im at the quest where Im at the hilltop buddhist temple/shrine thingy Rinkah, Setsuna, Kaze, Hazama and Hinoka confirmed. That would be chapter 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 That would be chapter 11. About to begin Chapter 12 Just got Kana :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 You want to save Felicia for either going Odin, Niles, or Leo. Try out some of these pairings: Xander x Charlotte Leo x Felicia Keaton x Camilla Niles/ Odin x Elise Niles/ Odin x Nyx (your choice here) Silas x Mozu Kaze x Azura Laslow x Selena Jakob x Peri Benny x Bekura Arthur x Effie In this setup if you are the male avatar you are going to have to marry one of the kids, Flora, or Anna (if you use the DLC). Hmm Odin x Nyx = Ultra mage spawn then again Niles x Elise = Really odd Couple. @ A@ im at a dilemma here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 any other tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeddlingMage Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hmm Odin x Nyx = Ultra mage spawn then again Niles x Elise = Really odd Couple. @ A@ im at a dilemma here Actually Elise!Nina makes a good Shining Bow user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalanche Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Elise!Nina is one of the better alternatives to just having her Mother Ophelia. Nina and Dwyer are some of the only kids other than Ophelia who can use her Growths well without a lot of hoop jumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeddlingMage Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Elise!Nina is one of the better alternatives to just having her Mother Ophelia. Nina and Dwyer are some of the only kids other than Ophelia who can use her Growths well without a lot of hoop jumping. I thought about putting Jakob with Elise. Maybe I will sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experiment 626 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Jakob + Elise is way better than say Jakob + Peri, since Jakob will actually get use out of the Partner Seal when he marries Elise, whereas Peri iirc, will just pass him the Cavalier class which he already has. Myself, I went with Nyx!Dwyer and am building him into a Malig Knight. (I love Maligs!) He should turn out pretty beastly. @OP: don't forget to make use of Nile's Capture ability!! It looks like you've already missed out on the game's best capturable boss in Haitaka (Ch.9 boss - hot damn does he make Ch.10 soooooo much less of a headache!!) But you should still have a chance to nab Kumagera, the boss of Ch.14, who's another real gem. (Oni Chieftain who comes with Certain Blow + Counter-Magic, which can build in to a sweet, sweet diversionary crit monster!) Also, Ch.14 has capturable Samurai's w/Pass, which can help make for a solid front line melee unit. Later chapters include things like the infamous 'Rallyman', Spearmasters w/additional seal skills and/or Amateratsu for heal bots, Falco Knight w/Pass, Kinshi Knight w/Bowbreaker... These guys can really help round out your overall party, especially if you've been horribly RNG screwed on some of your own characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Jakob + Elise is way better than say Jakob + Peri, since Jakob will actually get use out of the Partner Seal when he marries Elise, whereas Peri iirc, will just pass him the Cavalier class which he already has. Myself, I went with Nyx!Dwyer and am building him into a Malig Knight. (I love Maligs!) He should turn out pretty beastly. @OP: don't forget to make use of Nile's Capture ability!! It looks like you've already missed out on the game's best capturable boss in Haitaka (Ch.9 boss - hot damn does he make Ch.10 soooooo much less of a headache!!) But you should still have a chance to nab Kumagera, the boss of Ch.14, who's another real gem. (Oni Chieftain who comes with Certain Blow + Counter-Magic, which can build in to a sweet, sweet diversionary crit monster!) Also, Ch.14 has capturable Samurai's w/Pass, which can help make for a solid front line melee unit. Later chapters include things like the infamous 'Rallyman', Spearmasters w/additional seal skills and/or Amateratsu for heal bots, Falco Knight w/Pass, Kinshi Knight w/Bowbreaker... These guys can really help round out your overall party, especially if you've been horribly RNG screwed on some of your own characters. ...How to Capture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 ...How to Capture? If you have a prison set up at the castle, the Capture command is added to Niles' commands after moving. An enemy defeated with this command is sent to the prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darizuka Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 If you have a prison set up at the castle, the Capture command is added to Niles' commands after moving. An enemy defeated with this command is sent to the prison. i thought capture is only applied to online batteru! who else can capture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 i thought capture is only applied to online batteru! who else can capture? Orochi also gets capture, but this is about Conquest, so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experiment 626 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You can capture basically any generic unit during the main story and/or during skirmishes (though the latter is not an option in Conquest!) As long as the enemy are not 'specialist' units, such as Faceless or Kitsune/Wolfskin, and/or they're not labeled as "Invader" (ie: the invisible ghostie dudes), then you can attempt to capture units. You can also capture most of the 'bosses' that show up during Museum Melee if you have that DLC map, though they tend to overall be more useful on Birthright playthroughs since most of the good ones sport Nohrian classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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