Metal Rabbit Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I've payed alot of attention to the news in recent months. I've read up on our education situation for class. You can see where I'm going with this, we're in a craphole loop. My potentially controversial question is: Should socialism be considered as a solution to the economic crisis? Socialism is the enemy of capitalism, which is what we've got going but it's bringing us down along with other things. The role of any good government is to adapt to their people's needs. I don't think it would be going to far, even if it cost us pride. But I know alot of people remember the cold war still, and wouldn't be so easy to make the shift. That said, I'm putting my money on our next president and whoever's after him to lead us properly so that this doesn't even need consideration. Your thoughts? And any flaming in this topic is followed with a 24 hour suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xixiel Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Socialism is not necessarily the enemy of Capitalism since it's one of the more moderate Marxist ideas. Seeing how lots of Socialist countries are doing fine, I think it wouldn't be half bad to at least implement some Socialist ideas into our current system. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a perfect government, so really no matter what we do someone is going to be upset. I figure it will be the rich people who would oppose the implementation of Socialism. As far as I can see, they wouldn't lose anything they couldn't gain back easily enough; they'd just stop gaining as much (like tens of millions of dollars isn't enough)... So, I'm going to say YES. NOTE: I see no reason to flame this topic anyway. It's not like he's recruiting us for a Socialist movement; he's just putting it out there to discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) I think we need to try something.... Socialist countries are pretty well off so why not borrow some of their ideas? I personally see nothing wrong with those who have good fortune giving a little more to those whom are worse off. Either that or switch back to a feudalistic economy where a country strives for homeostasis (economic stability) and the idea of a fair price (which would essentially kill us in the global scheme). Edited October 17, 2008 by Arch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Honetly, I think the economy will fix it's self, just a stupid opinion I guess, I mean we will have to influence it a little, but again I'm a dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 We'll be fine once we stop spending beyond our means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wist Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Public education in the United States is maintained by the government, the US postal service has likewise been maintained as a socialist enterprise. Xixiel is right in that socialism is not an enemy of capitalism; it's not entirely foreign to current policy in the United States so it is most definitely a valid topic. Socialism doesn't have anywhere near the stigma in European countries as it does in the US, but that stigma doesn't seem to have been enough to deter the financial bailout which is in effect a temporary implementation of socialism. As a permanent solution, restructuring the US into a more socialist nation would not go over very well with its citizens (and most politicians I would assume). It does appear, however, to be a valid tool for reinvigorating the economy because the state can absolve debt in the market until the market is healthy enough to buy shares back from the government. Edited October 17, 2008 by Wist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 Honetly, I think the economy will fix it's self, just a stupid opinion I guess, I mean we will have to influence it a little, but again I'm a dummy Not at all. That's a valid view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wist Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I agree. While I think it's beneficial for the government to to do what it can to dampen the impact of this economic downturn, one has to have faith that the US dollar won't be allowed to die whether or not the bailout was put into effect. A huge number of countries rely on the dollar to some degree or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 I stopped to think about all the announcements the chairman of the Fed made. To me, it sounds like we're at the start of a socialist shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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