astrophys Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Wanted feedback before actually starting. I can explain any pairings if you need me too. This was the list. * indicates a royal child. (Dragon Vein) *Caeldori = Subaki xSakura *Kana = Avatar (+MAG/-LCK) x Caeldori --> Also wondering which talent to take for Avatar: Dragon or Mage were top picks. *Shigure = Niles x Azura *Nina = Niles x Azura Dwyer = Jakob x Effie*Sophie = Silas x HinokaMidori = Kaze x Rinkah*Shiro = Ryoma x Oboro*Kiragi = Takumi x HanaAsugi = Saizo x CharlotteSelkie = Kaden x KageroHisame = Hinata x SetsunaMitama = Azama x FeliciaRhajat = Hayato x Orochi *Siegbert = Xander x Selena*Forrest = Leo x BerukaIgnatius = Benny x NyxVelouria = Keatonx PeriPercy = Arthurx Mozu*Ophelia = Odin xElise*Soleil = Laslow xCamilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 What do you want out of the kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) What do you want out of the kids? Well, one thing I was trying was to mix stuff up substantially from a lot of my prior pairings in prior runs (although some end up staying intact as the others fall into place). Casually done [not casual mode, just not for PvP competition]. Grinding implied to get everyone. Pairing by pairing, this is a rough sense of what I was trying to do. *Caeldori = Subaki xSakura *Kana = Avatar (+MAG/-LCK) x Caeldori I'll take this one as a group. Caeldori is being bred to have a magical-hybrid lean (without totally killing her physical side) as a.) a Prodigy-boosted hybrid [be it physical lance & magical Bolt Naginata Falcon Knight, Basara [possible if Rhajat A+], Dark Knight [possible if Mage talent Corrin is taken], Malig Knight [possible if Dragon talent Corrin is taken], etc.] b.) For certain pair-up bonuses and mods/growths to line up for Kana while still preserving c.) personal bias of wanting Caeldori x Corrin. Sakura!Caeldori gets pair-up of 1 Def/1 Spd/1 Def/1 Spd & 1 Res, while +MAG/-LCK Avatar gets 1 Spd/1 Def/1 Spd/1 Mag & 1 Res, which means Kana gives pair-up of 1 Spd/1 Spd/1 Spd/1Spd & 1 Res. Sakura!Caeldori!Kana gets mods of -1 Str, +6 Mag, +2 Skl,2 Spd, -3 Lck, +3 Def, +2 Res. *Shigure = Niles x Azura *Nina = Niles x Azura The idea is hybrid physical bow/shining bow/staff Nina, Azura can pick up Move +1 like an extra boots in effect. Dwyer = Jakob x Effie Leftover pair that emphasized Dwyer and Jakob's physical stats [+6 STR Dywer and his 45% personal STR growth gets even better; Jakob already has Cavalier Reclass and gets Knight too now… ). *Sophie = Silas x Hinoka Physical Sophie; Hinoka likes Cavalier too [Elbow Room, Luna, Armored blow]. Midori = Kaze x Rinkah Kaze pair-up bonuses; Salvage Blow + Profiteer *Shiro = Ryoma x Oboro Oboro does well for most physical kids. *Kiragi = Takumi x Hana Hana pair-up bots for Takumi speed; good pair-up bonus bot Kiragi. Asugi = Saizo x Charlotte Trying something different; Saizo is slow, so +SPD boost Berserker Charlotte. Tryign to do something other than Xander x Charlotte. Selkie = Kaden x Kagero Poison Strike + Four Fangs, plus helps STR majorly while preserving RES. Hisame = Hinata x Setsuna Setsuna's +3 personal and Sniper Spd could help Hinata's speed problems. Mitama = Azama x Felicia Don't terribly care about them, but Mitama can make easy use of LIve to Serve. Rhajat = Hayato x Orochi Trying something other than Nyx x Hayato. Helps Rhajat's skill. *Siegbert = Xander x Selena Doing something other than Xander x Charlotte; gives just as much speed and still gives Sol; All get Elbow Room + Patient Assurance combo. Selena gets Cavalier. *Forrest = Leo x Beruka Access to Malig Knight for Leo. Forrest Offspring Seals to Strategist for Inspiration/Rally Res; Beruka passes down Rally Defense on her end to Forrest. Rally Def/Res/inspiration bot Forrest and Malig Knight access Leo. Ignatius = Benny x Nyx Nyx gets needed bulk; I thought that because of the huge HP/STR/DEF bonuses from the Knight class Ignatius could survive Nyx's weaker stats better than most. Benny already gets Fierce Mien to drop enemy evasion and now compounds this with Heartseeker. Velouria = Keatonx Peri Velouria can get Luna [werewolf, so moon association extra fitting]. Peri is capable of A+ Kagero, so she could alternatively grant Velouria Poison Strike [Poison Strike + Four Fangs]. Peri is physical and likes STR/SPD pair from Keaton. Percy = Arthurx Mozu Certain Blow Berserker Percy possible. Big +Dodge attack stance for Arthur. *Ophelia = Odin xElise Standard magical Ophelia. *Soleil = Laslow xCamilla Soleil keeps lots of STR while maintaining DEF/RES durability from Camilla. Camilla can get +SPD/DEF from Laslow pair-up General: I was also trying to make Caeldori, Sophie, Ophelia, and Soleil 2nd gen royals because they are my favorite 2nd gens. Edited December 7, 2016 by astrophys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 That makes a lot of sense! The only comments I have: - Hisame's class setup makes him an absolutely terrifying Sniper. - Igantius would be best off as a Dark Knight. He'd retain his bulk, and he'd be able to utilize his relatively heavy magic leanings (Magic is his best modifier, really). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Oh wow… Death Blow Certain Blow Sniper Hisame…. I hadn't even thought of that point… great idea eggclipse Dark Knight Ignatius makes sense. Do you think I should take Mage talent (Corrin gets Dark Mage/Dark Knight/Sorcerer as Heart Seal, Kana gets it as Heart Seal and can pass it to potential buddies and spouses, Caeldori gets it from Partner Seal) or Dragon talent (the same, except for Wyvern Rider/Wyvern Lord/Malig Knight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Malig Knight sounds like it would be amazing for the Caeldori you have planned, so I'd go Dragon talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Malig Knight sounds like it would be amazing for the Caeldori you have planned, so I'd go Dragon talent! I was leaning to that. Historically, I've done Dark Knight Avatars, but I can just pick that up for Corrin via A Leo or A Oin. And even if I didn't, I still get Yato access back for things like the final battle by just reverting to my base tree's promoted Nohr Noble. But yeah, Malig Caeldori could get Trample (from Malig) and Tomefaire (from Sakura directly or from inherited Onmyoji from Sakura). Who should be her Friendship buddy? Sophie, Rhajat, or Nina? Do you have any suggestions for Friendship Seals, or 2nd generation Friendship/Partners? EDIT: Should I marry/S-rank Kana to Ignatius? Noting the earlier suggestion of DK Ignatius, Nohr Noble Sakura!Caeldori!Kana[+MAG/-LCK type] would grant him a +5 Spd bonus and a +2 Str/+2Mag/+1 Skl/+3 Res bonus… so at maxes, his standard DK 27 Spd (Nyx actually makes his SPD mod neutral, rather than negative) becomes 32 with Kana Nohr Noble help. DK Ingatius offers +1 Str, +4 Mag, +2 Spd, +4 Def, +1 Move. Also, if Ignatius goes A+ Seigbert, he can get PavGis and Kana can run Nohrian Trust to benefit rom it. Kana's support bonus should be +15 Hit, +6 Crit, +10 Dodge; Ignatius grants +15 Hit, +12 Crit instead if I calculate right. Edited December 7, 2016 by astrophys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Depends on what you want out of Ignatius. Kana can also go Dark Flier/Witch for pure offense bonuses, or Malig Knight for bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Depends on what you want out of Ignatius. Kana can also go Dark Flier/Witch for pure offense bonuses, or Malig Knight for bulk. Well, her personal only works in the Noble classes (although one could just ignore the personal). But you raise good points: DLC classes or Malig Knight are legitimate options. Kana Malig Knight pairs up for this bonus to Ignatius: +2 Mag, +4 Spd, +2 Def, +3 Res, +1 Move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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