Why do iron weapons have more uses than steel weapons

[DisobeyedCargo]

I know that gameplay wise, it makes sense for iron to have more uses, but factually, Steel is literally iron with carbon introduced into it IIRC, and is WAY stronger than iron, meaning it should be able to be used more times.

is there any sort of explanation to this?

[Lord of Gabriel Knight]

there's no justification for this, it just is

Edited November 29, 2017 by Lord of Gabriel Knight

[Dragoncat]

How does bronze play into this? Is it strong or weak or what...?

At least the silver weapons make sense. Silver is a very soft metal. Doesn't explain why the silver weapons are the most powerful though.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Dragoncat

[DisobeyedCargo]

Just now, Dragoncat said:

How does bronze play into this? Is it strong or weak or what...?

At least the silver weapons make sense. Silver is a very soft metal.

Bronze is much WEAKER than steel, so another mystery there.

at least silver is right, but that still leaves iron, steel, and bronze.

 

and what are the brave weapons even made up of??!!

[Von Ithipathachai]

3 minutes ago, DisobeyedCargo said:

And what are the brave weapons even made up of??!!

SOMETHING.

[Acacia Sgt]

Yeah, it doesn't really translate well the transition of metals and stuff with the durability mechanic. So simply put, Steel has less uses because uses drop as the strength of the weapon rises, to balance that fact.

44 minutes ago, DisobeyedCargo said:

and what are the brave weapons even made up of??!!

Courage?

46 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:

At least the silver weapons make sense. Silver is a very soft metal. Doesn't explain why the silver weapons are the most powerful though.

Maybe it's not entirely made of silver, or is a silver alloy. Or it's meant to be silver as in colored like silver but not actual silver. Or it's enchanted-silver/mythril. Or just plain magic. Or it's a game and it doesn't really matter.

Oh wait, maybe we've been misguided all along. Everybody in FE are secretly werewolves (minus the actual werewolves in Fates)! Now that would be something... lol

Edited November 29, 2017 by Acacia Sgt

[DisobeyedCargo]

19 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Yeah, it doesn't really translate well the transition of metals and stuff with the durability mechanic. So simply put, Steel has less uses because uses drop as the strength of the weapon rises, to balance that fact.

Courage?

Maybe it's not entirely made of silver, or is a silver alloy. Or it's meant to be silver as in colored like silver but not actual silver. Or it's enchanted-silver/mythril. Or just plain magic. Or it's a game and it doesn't really matter.

Oh wait, maybe we've been misguided all along. Everybody in FE are secretly werewolves (minus the actual werewolves in Fates)! Now that would be something... lol

Well now I will forever be bothered every time I see a steel sword in FE.

maybe brave weapons only manifest for particularly brave Warriors and require great strength to used, similar to how the Fujin Yumi requires immense concentration to show to bow strong IIRC , hence why it's late game, it's so strong, and why it has few uses?

 

 

[Dragoncat]

Can we talk about killer weapons though? What are they made out of?

[DisobeyedCargo]

13 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:

Can we talk about killer weapons though? What are they made out of?

the souls of the damned yearning for their revenge, hence the killer part

ehh, I always imagined them being made of like a low grade steel, kinda innetween the standard iron weapons and the high quality steel , but that's because I usually see them in between those two weapons.

Edited November 29, 2017 by DisobeyedCargo

[SullyMcGully]

So here's my headcanon:

The different classifications really just refer to different levels of quality. A silver sword isn't literally made of silver, it's just considered silver-grade the same way an album that sells 1 million units is considered platinum. There could theoretically be gold weapons, not literally made of gold but just of that amount of quality. Maybe a silver sword only has a little bit of silver around the hilt or something.

[X-Naut]

2 hours ago, Dragoncat said:

At least the silver weapons make sense. Silver is a very soft metal. Doesn't explain why the silver weapons are the most powerful though.

Placebo effect. People think a silver weapon is better, and that makes them strike that much harder!

[Dragoncat]

2 hours ago, X-Naut said:

Placebo effect. People think a silver weapon is better, and that makes them strike that much harder!

And then the weapon breaks easily. That works!

Killer weapons: They're red, and there was research done that says the color red, when used on uniforms, makes the red team more likely to win because red gives off a "I'm a badass, I'm going to win" vibe. While the blue team is more chill. There was a thing on youtube about it but I don't feel like looking for it. Pretty crazy that with that research, ally units in FE are colored blue and we still win a good percentage of the time.

But one example was League of Legends matches, the red teams in the study would go after the opponent's base to win more often than the blue teams, which would generally just go after monsters. And then while the blue team was distracted monster hunting, the red team would attack their not guarded well enough base and win a good portion of the time.

[Slumber]

3 hours ago, Dragoncat said:

Can we talk about killer weapons though? What are they made out of?

Rusted metal. That's why they're red.

The only thing more deadly than a blade is lockjaw.

[Azure Sen]

It's just assigning value to a weapon via the materials used to make it feel like there's a tangible increase in weapon quality and power. It's why there are games where weapons made of gold, for example, are considered superior weapons to steel even though gold is very malleable and in fact more malleable than silver. 

Killing weapons, meanwhile, are probably more about design than materials, meant to inflict more damage at the cost of being less effective against armor, akin to real-life curved blades.

Meanwhile Brave weapons are made of ultra-brittle luna titanium.

[Dandy Druid]

"Videogame Logic"

[NinjaMonkey]

18 hours ago, Slumber said:

Rusted metal. That's why they're red.

I guess that also explains why they have less might than steel weapons.

[KoimanZX]

It just proves that most developers and fantasy writers have little knowledge about medieval weaponry (Dungeons & Dragons classifies arming swords as "longswords" and gives bastard swords their own category when they really are more akin to longswords). Bronze is too soft to be used for anything longer than a shortsword and iron weapons need more mass to be as sturdy as steel ones (silver is just a dumb choice of material, even as an alloy, due to its softness and is simply a way to show off ones's wealth). This is why I have suggested that the whole grading system should be completely redone, using a system that uses quality as a descriptor instead of metals.

Bronze -> Economy (e.g. Economy Sword)

Iron -> Standard (e.g. Standard Sword)

Steel -> Heavy (e.g. Heavy Sword) The Heavy Spear can be simply called a "halberd" with the anti-cavalry axe being the Pole-axe.

Silver -> Quality (e.g. Quality Sword)

Granted, we are talking about a genre that is plagued by chainmail bikinis, paddles masquerading as swords, absurdly large pauldrons, axes with heads too big for their handles, double-faced axes, breastplates that conform to the shape of a woman's bosom, and weak bows; expecting a logical system is likely out of the question.