Jotari Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Alm and Celica's Overclasses were badass. And now, in Heroes, we're getting some new incarnations of classic lords that take them to a higher level, like Exalt Chrom. It has me thinking, what would other classic lords in the series look like with an Overclass? Marth (SD): Loedstar: A skill that heals adjacent allies at the start of each turn (even though he's never been featured in a game with skills). Marth (MOE): Hero King: A skill that reduces damage from all non dragon based attacks. Sigurd: Chalphy Duke: A rank lances and Charm. Seliph: Prince of Light: A rank lances and A rank light magic. Leif: Master Knight: Give him all the weapons! (but let's face it, you'd only use staves, because Thracia staves on a unit without fatigue = win). Roy: Fire Lord: A horse and Infinite weapon useage. Eliwood: Marquess: Give him proper Canto in a game that doesn't feature it. Hector: Marquess: A skill that lets him counter when attacked from range (it's his thing in Heroes). Lyn: Chieftan: Give her a horse and that innate crit bonus she wishes she had. Erikia: Restoration Queen: Bow rank and Slayer. Ephraim: Restoration King: Sword rank and Slayer. Ike (POR): Vanguard: Axe rank and Nihil. Ike (RD): Legend: Radiant Aether, the attack that killed Ashera. Practically the same as regular Aether but can't be blocked by Nihil or Mantle and can be used at a distance. Micaiah: Queen Daein: Renewal and Daunt. Chrom: Exalt: A horse. Level 5 skill: Conquest Level 15 skill: Galeforce Robin: Deliverer: Dark magic access. Level 5 skill: Rightful God Level 15 skill: Vantage+ Lucina: Exalt: Level 5 skill: Hawkeye Level 15 skill: Aegis+ Corrin (B): Hoshido King/Queen: Bow rank up to B. Sword rank up to S. Stave rank up to A. Level 5 skill: Bushido Level 15 skill: Staff Savant Corrin (C): Nohrian King/Queen: Axe rank up to B. Sword rank up to S. Tome rank up to A. Level 5 skill: Grisly Wound Level 15 skill: Immune Status Phew. That took longer to think up than I was expecting. What ideas do you have? Edited March 24, 2018 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, Jotari said: Alm and Celica's Overclasses were badass. And now, in Heroes, we're getting some new incarnations of classic lords that take them to a higher level, like Exalt Chrom. It has me thinking, what would other classic lords in the series look like with an Overclass? Marth (SD): Loedstar: A skill that heals adjacent allies at the start of each turn (even though he's never been featured in a game with skills). Marth (MOE): Hero King: A skill that reduces damage from all non dragon based attacks. Sigurd: Chalphy Duke: A rank lances and Charm. Seliph: Prince of Light: A rank lances and B rank light magic. Leif: Master Knight: Give him all the weapons! (but let's face it, you'd only use staves, because Thracia staves on a unit without fatigue = win). Roy: Fire Lord: A horse and Infinite weapon useage. Eliwood: Marquess: Give him proper Canto in a game that doesn't feature it. Hector: Marquess: A skill that lets him counter when attacked from range (it's his thing in Heroes). Lyn: Chieftan: Give her a horse and that innate crit bonus she wishes she had. Erikia: Restoration Queen: Bow rank and Slayer. Ephraim: Restoration King: Sword rank and Slayer. Ike (POR): Vanguard: Axe rank and Nihil. Ike (RD): Legend: Radiant Aether, the attack that killed Ashera. Practically the same as regular Aether but can't be blocked by Nihil or Mantle and can be used at a distance. Micaiah: Queen Daein: Renewal and Daunt. Chrom: Exalt: A horse. Level 5 skill: Conquest Level 15 skill: Galeforce Robin: Deliverer: Dark magic access. Level 5 skill: Rightful God Level 15 skill: Vantage+ Lucina: Exalt: Level 5 skill: Hawkeye Level 15 skill: Aegis+ Corrin (B): Hoshido King/Queen: Bow rank up to B. Sword rank up to S. Stave rank up to A. Level 5 skill: Bushido Level 15 skill: Staff Savant Corrin (C): Nohrian King/Queen: Axe rank up to B. Sword rank up to S. Tome rank up to A. Level 5 skill: Grisly Wound Level 15 skill: Immune Status Phew. That took longer to think up than I was expecting. What ideas do you have? As awesome as that sounds, I think some of these would break the games they are in.... actually, I think all of them would, except for maybe Micaiah, though Daunt is a pretty surefire way to make a unit basically invincible, especially when combined with an Earth affinity support. And I would maybe give Chrom Pavise+ as his level 15 skill, to complement Lucina's Aegis+. Inb4 overclassed Frederick or Lissa gets Luna+... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: As awesome as that sounds, I think some of these would break the games they are in.... actually, I think all of them would, except for maybe Micaiah, though Daunt is a pretty surefire way to make a unit basically invincible, especially when combined with an Earth affinity support. And I would maybe give Chrom Pavise+ as his level 15 skill, to complement Lucina's Aegis+. Inb4 overclassed Frederick or Lissa gets Luna+... Well, the idea would be that these are meant to be broken classes acquired by DLC, intended to be used on stuff like Apotheosis or Thabes (though in my opinion, Overclasses trivilize Thabes a bit too much). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, Jotari said: Well, the idea would be that these are meant to be broken classes acquired by DLC, intended to be used on stuff like Apotheosis or Thabes (though in my opinion, Overclasses trivilize Thabes a bit too much). I did manage to get my rear end handed to me in Thabes despite using Overclasses once. Low percentage crits are the bane of my existence. I didn't want to shoot down your ideas, btw. It sounds like a pretty awesome concept and I would love it if these were actually real. Though for balance's sake, one would have to give every other class an Overclass as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: I did manage to get my rear end handed to me in Thabes despite using Overclasses once. Low percentage crits are the bane of my existence. I didn't want to shoot down your ideas, btw. It sounds like a pretty awesome concept and I would love it if these were actually real. Though for balance's sake, one would have to give every other class an Overclass as well. Underestimating magic can frequently screw one over too, since Overclasses don't change the fact that Res is almost nonexistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Jotari said: Underestimating magic can frequently screw one over too, since Overclasses don't change the fact that Res is almost nonexistant. All too true. It's important to have long-range fighters with you, best equipped with stuff that further increases range, like a Killer Bow's mastery skill or Mage Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Jotari said: Eliwood: Marquess: Give him proper Canto in a game that doesn't feature it. Hector: Marquess: A skill that lets him counter when attacked from range (it's his thing in Heroes). Chrom: Exalt: A horse. Level 5 skill: Conquest Level 15 skill: Galeforce Lucina: Exalt: Level 5 skill: Hawkeye Level 15 skill: Aegis+ I don't know about Eliwood and Hector since I don't remember exactly how Blazing Sword handled having three Lord-Class Characters, but Chrom and Lucina's OverClasses need to either be named differently or have the same Skillset due to how Awakening handles Classes - no two Units in the same Class can learn different Skills, for one, and as an aside Second Seals effectively let you use pretty much any Class as an OverClass once you grind your level high enough and have the maxed-out stats. I think the Limit Breaker Skill is effectively OverClassing for Awakening, since the main function of OverClassing is getting another chance to increase your stats and getting a new Skill - in this case it's just that the Skill is also the chance to further increase your stats. The only character in Awakening I'd want some kind of special Class recognition for right now(besides Owain, who should have had his own Class to begin with) is Chrom's other child - Kjelle/Brady/Cynthia/Inigo gets kind of almost nothing from their royal bloodline, not even the ability to wield the sword that their blood should allow them to wield. Admittedly, there's no evidence of any of them having the Brand as Chrom's children, but that could be altered with the Class recognition of which I speak - said Class would of course showcase Kjelle/Brady/Cynthia/Inigo/Morgan as having the Brand somewhere, preferably someplace different for each child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, SoulWeaver said: I don't know about Eliwood and Hector since I don't remember exactly how Blazing Sword handled having three Lord-Class Characters, but Chrom and Lucina's OverClasses need to either be named differently or have the same Skillset due to how Awakening handles Classes - no two Units in the same Class can learn different Skills, for one, and as an aside Second Seals effectively let you use pretty much any Class as an OverClass once you grind your level high enough and have the maxed-out stats. I think the Limit Breaker Skill is effectively OverClassing for Awakening, since the main function of OverClassing is getting another chance to increase your stats and getting a new Skill - in this case it's just that the Skill is also the chance to further increase your stats. The only character in Awakening I'd want some kind of special Class recognition for right now(besides Owain, who should have had his own Class to begin with) is Chrom's other child - Kjelle/Brady/Cynthia/Inigo gets kind of almost nothing from their royal bloodline, not even the ability to wield the sword that their blood should allow them to wield. Admittedly, there's no evidence of any of them having the Brand as Chrom's children, but that could be altered with the Class recognition of which I speak - said Class would of course showcase Kjelle/Brady/Cynthia/Inigo/Morgan as having the Brand somewhere, preferably someplace different for each child. In Blazing Blade, all three lord characters start off in three different classes called Lord before promoting into three different classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jotari said: In Blazing Blade, all three lord characters start off in three different classes called Lord before promoting into three different classes. Ok, they're good then, but I still hold that Chrom and Lucina couldn't have different Skills to learn through the same OverClass. I think I'd stick with Conquest and Galeforce - it makes Sully not quite the less-optimal Chrom choice she is for Galeforce lovers - since she doesn't get Pegasus Knight if memory serves - because Lucina can just get it herself in Exalt later while still getting something Sully offers, like Deliverer or Lancebreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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