Ottservia Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Okay so this has been something on my mind a little bit. What makes good character design? Now I realize that this sort of thing is almost entirely subjective but I'd like to know everyone's thoughts regardless. Personally I feel good character design boils down to answering one simple question: "What can I tell about this character just by looking at their design/artwork/portraits/etc." and if the answer is accurate to what the character is actually like then I feel the design is a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Jones Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 What does the design/artwork/portrait say about the character? More than that, what does it say about the world they are part of and their place in it? It is very easy to tell the difference between something that feels it belongs in a narrative and exists in a living, breathing world and something that exists in a vacuum, purely for self-indulgence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slumber Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) In the broadest sense, I think a design that's simple(In a more artistic sense, not like "Oh, this character was made only using 7 lines!"), appealing, and, as you said, says what the character is about. Edited April 1, 2018 by Slumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Bubba Jones sums it up pretty well. It's important for the character design to feel natural to both the world and their character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I like strong, distinctive silhouttes . Genereally, a lot of charathers with these will be simple, and retain a kind of shape-based drawing guide for them but this isn't strictly neccesary. Uniformed charathers belong in a special category - they can still be distinct from each other (any good war/cop movie 0r tv show, Legend of Galatic Heroes, etc), but if not designed well they can betray a feeling of "interchangable wigs" (in manga's case) or the impression that the main charathers are "generic soldier dudes". I don't like "over-designed charathers" in most cases, although I can appreciate something like "ironwork steampunk". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Lucina Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 For me, it's all about personality and color schemes. IE: With my Homestuck oc Seeira, he's a purple blood, so he obviously has clothes of this color, and a doll maker so I gave him an apron. To keep with his caste theme, his apron is blood stained and filled with blood stained items and to finish the whole thing off, his eyes are very wide and expressive, to make him more innocent. A better example Spoiler Take for example Anthony (just roll with it for now). He's obviously in a lot of dull colors so it makes sense for him to be of a lower class. After all he is a page, and dyes were so expensive back then that purple is "royalty". His portrait looks kind of like a Kubrick stare and even when he's revealed to be evil, you can see the "Here's Johnny" in him. From what little we see of his full model, he is wearing gloves, similar to Mozu's design and fitting for a villager. Now let's go search up bad ocs. What do you get? Bright colors and such skimpy clothing that even Olivia is going wtf. Jumping back to FE, who else has an impractical design? Camilla. Her boob window is an obvious problem and could get her killed but she seems like she uses it for other means..... Imagine if you saw Anthony, who's like 12-13 years old (taking a guess here since FE's never been consistent on ages.) running around an in outfit like Camilla's, what would you think? That's all up to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 It depends on a few things. Does it fit the character and their personality/backstory? Does it fit with the world the character is in? Does their design affect them and their being (Example Charlotte has big boobs to attract rich men, they aren't just there so she has big boobs Like Camilla). Etc. Well, at least, that;s what matter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dreamyboi Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Depends. To me good character design is design that communicates who the character is while still making sense within the context of the world and story. If you want my subjective picks I'd say Leo is an example of great character design while Nyx is an example of contradictory character design. Leo's appearance fits his personality and make sense for the setting, Nyx's doesn't because it clashes with her personality and is much too revealing for anyone who isn't a dancer. The prepubescent-like current state of her body is a reminder of her grave mistakes in the past which lead to many people dying and the last thing she'd ever do is show it off to anyone with a functioning pair of eyes. IntSys' need to pander to pedophiles might explain why it exists Edited April 2, 2018 by Dreamyboi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Using Gintama logic, being able to tell who a character is based on their silhoutte. Don't make the design too over the top. What does the design say about the character? The clothing, posture, facial expression all tell you about something about the person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_antithesis Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 In my opinion, good character art represents the character themselves, is easily distinguishable from the other characters (unless any similarities are actually a focus on the character) and fits in with the story. Good examples: Dierdre (Genealogy): The messy hair and wrinkled dress shows her ditzy nature (as caused by the amnesia) and that fact that she joins face-down in the forest. Also, the light purple throughout her design is GENIUS. The light colours indicate purity and warmth, while the purple (a colour often associated with evil) shows that she hides a dark secret, which eventually manifests into Julius. Excellent art that tells a lot about the character without saying a word! Charlotte (Fates). The devious grin, combined with fanservice immediately says a lot about who she is and what she does. Also, the white and gold palette is a good choice given her personality and status. Garon (Fates): Despite being a terrible character, his art is actually really good. The huge plates of armour, the massive axe, and the sheer size of the guy just screams "threatening". The relatively monochrome colour palette in an otherwise colourful game is excellent, as it manages to symbolise the darkness of Nohr, the loss of his former personality, and his evilness in one fell swoop. Gray, Tobin, Kliff and Faye (Echoes): Their down-to-earth design and dulled colour palettes show that they are poor, relatively generic peasants. It also sets up echoes to be a more serious game (it is effectively an old FE, after all) in its contrast to the flashy, vibrant colours seen in the other 3DS games. Bad examples: Many offenders (the whole damn series): Impractical armour on a character who is supposed to be serious. The designs should be at least somewhat consistent with real physics, otherwise they're just not believable. We also need more ringmail armour. Dragon Lolis (many games): The idea that the wisest, oldest beings, above our mere human perceptions actually takes the form of a small child is a trope that has been overused better elsewhere. It was cool the first time, but not anymore. Unless IS can actually make the manaketes' young designs symbolic of something (maybe the manaketes all get slaughtered before they can reach adulthood, so they evolved to be able to reproduce while not fully mature?) the trope can be retired, please. Also, thank you SO MUCH Corrin for bucking the trend on this one! Henry (Awakening): A clean robe, combined with sensible hair and an overall formal look is in stark contrast to his chaotic character. He should have had a more 'messy' design in my opinion. Camilla (Fates): Her design is trying to do three things at once, and fails at all of them. It wants to be aggressive like Minerva, fanservice-y like Tethys, and caring like Sumia all at the same time. Had they gone with just one of those options, it would have been great, but they dropped the ball in three places at once... Many offenders (Heroes): Unnecessary fanservice that doesn't fit with their character. Looking at you especially, Catria! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucielia Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 To me, a good character design is unique, relatively simplistic, and fitting for both the setting and the personality of the character. The great thing about art is that you can make characters' appearances really stand out and leave a lasting image of that character in someone's mind. It always annoys me when a character has a design that contradicts their personality (Nyx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dreamyboi Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, The_antithesis said: Garon (Fates): Despite being a terrible character, his art is actually really good. The huge plates of armour, the massive axe, and the sheer size of the guy just screams "threatening". The relatively monochrome colour palette in an otherwise colourful game is excellent, as it manages to symbolise the darkness of Nohr, the loss of his former personality, and his evilness in one fell swoop. Yep, lazily written or not he definitely has a good design. I personally prefer his "young garon" cipher illustration though. 1 hour ago, The_antithesis said: Many offenders (Heroes): Unnecessary fanservice that doesn't fit with their character. Looking at you especially, Catria! Let's not forget Mae's weird ass breastplate Hidari drew that the Heroes artist later decided to inflate. Sometimes I wonder why they even draw these characters wearing armor if the shit's going to curve around them like rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirania Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I guess accessories maybe? Like weird looking staffs, things dangling off sword and belt. Just something that shows this guy or girl wants to stand out, and get killed by a sniper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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