Fable Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 6:06 AM, Walrein said: ok let's start with some piles --confident town-- eclipse Refa Snike Via --less confident town-- BBM Bibbon Fable Shinori SullyMcGully --null-- everyone not listed --wolfy-- Marth Mackc2 zeus_12 my first and biggest problem with this list is that my nullpile is too big. i'll probably need to reread d1 to get anything resembling a read on the people in that pile (cause people like kirsche junko jb etc haven't made more than like 2 posts d2) my thoughts on the co-neighborizer thing is that while there's no guarantee that both are town, i think it's incredibly unlikely that neither is town; hence, i'm pretty damn sure Refa's town (and i probably would be even if he hadn't have claimed) Umm....why was Walrein trying to motivate less confidant V reads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 All in all, I think the entire case on Walrein is inconclusive, but I am still wary of just clearing him. There are small things that look big when you consider what percentage of the stuff to do with him raises questions. I also don't see how the scum team decides to block him instead of someone who might be scumreading them. It's more likely they'd block someone like town!Sully whose role sounds ominous and a failed result could mean anything. Walrein hadn't even suggested what kind of role he had. It's just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Fable said: Umm....why was Walrein trying to motivate less confidant V reads? fable to save the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 can I sub out so prims can sub in for me, solve the game, and be able to play as himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fable said: Umm....why was Walrein trying to motivate less confidant V reads? this is actually a bad argument because eclipse was confirmed mayor, via claimed no actions until later, and snike claimed role miller. he had to motivate less confident ones. also refa didn't claim at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 damn i thought we had him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fable Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I didn't claim either tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 yeah that's true. id have motivated refa there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 When was that posted, Fable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I think mainly. As town, I'd have claimed roleblocked as soon as it happened, without claiming what my role is. To help town know there is a roleblocker. Which is also bothering me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fable Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Refa said: When was that posted, Fable? The 14th so that was mid d2 I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 6:04 PM, SB. said: "I Don't Need Serenes Forest Mafia Mafia 5 and I Don't Need To Lynch The Mafia Either" proclaimed the townies after almost thirty pages of discussion, instead deciding to use the noose as a skipping rope. Also Bartozio ended up dying somehow. Bartozio was lynched (again)! He was... MAYBE if he had YELLED MORE people would have SEEN SENSE and then he would STILL BE ALIVE. I think we can all agree that this was a huge tactical oversight on his part. It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends in ~24 hours. Please send in your night actions and avoid posting in the game thread unless your role tells you otherwise. this was EoD1 On 4/14/2018 at 6:06 AM, Walrein said: is the timestamp on the quote so he had Fable as less confident AFTER he motivated him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Two real time days later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Difference of only 2 minutes, funny enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Fable said: The 14th so that was mid d2 I think? I'm assuming his read on you didn't change (because he didn't post anything since then), so him choosing to motivate you is strange. Mackc2 makes sense (and he did target Mackc2, presumably), but his target on you doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Refa said: I'm assuming his read on you didn't change (because he didn't post anything since then), so him choosing to motivate you is strange. Mackc2 makes sense (and he did target Mackc2, presumably), but his target on you doesn't. Actually, he has Mackc2 as his scum read in that list. And Nightmare claimed Martyr D1, and so did Mack. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Makaze said: Actually, he has Mackc2 as his scum read in that list. And Nightmare claimed Martyr D1, and so did Mack. ??? Nightmare claimed at the start of D2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 In what world does he not only not motivate a jailer but motivates a martyr claim he is saying he doesn't believe on a player he thinks is wolfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Refa said: Nightmare claimed at the start of D2. Oh. Same result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I take it back, he had a good progression on Mack its just out of context On 4/14/2018 at 5:44 AM, Walrein said: i'm catching up v slowly kind of writing off what i missed on d1 for now and starting with the beginning of d2 nate's d1 vote was scummy tho On 4/14/2018 at 5:47 AM, Walrein said: snike's probably town for jumping on nate's perceived scumslip the way he did that said i don't think it was actually a slip On 4/14/2018 at 6:08 AM, Walrein said: oh yeah and my wolfpile sucks marth's roleclaim itself isn't alignment indicative but the manner in which it was made gives me pause. everything about his play is wolfy but this is a pretty big asterisk mack is based off of nightmare's d1 vote. the issue with this is that while the vote was poorly handled regardless, it's not really worth anything unless athena flips scum as well zeus i would prefer be vigged if we have one. no sense wasting a lynch here if we can help it. On 4/14/2018 at 6:18 AM, Walrein said: mafia decoy would be a pretty bad role to begin with p much good for absorbing info roles/MAYBE a vig shot if it has built in protection and either way i feel like there are better targets for that than refa think that slot's probably just town fml also i think refa's still in my confident town pile tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beru Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, Makaze said: We know that the RB did not go to: BBM, Mack, Kaoz, Athena, Kill @Alette@Beru Can you tell the difference between being RB'd and the person you watch doing something?@EvanManManMan Can your action be RB'd? Would you be informed?@Refa @Vi-astra If you had any night actions N1, confirm if you got roleblocked. If anyone was, then Walrein is lying. If no one was, then Walrein is probably clear. I don't like it, but it fits with what happened. I get told that the person I'm watching went somewhere so I don't see who visited them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Walrein also suggested that he thought Refa was the co-networker and was not surprised that his action succeeded. So a world where Walrein is Mafia and the specific case where they roleblocked Refa could not have happened. It's probably Snike sigh also the way he progressed there its pretty clear that reads list he posted was old, he wrote it and never posted it, then posted it start of d2 went on to change where people were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, Beru said: I get told that the person I'm watching went somewhere so I don't see who visited them What if you were roleblocked? Were you roleblocked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beru Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Makaze said: I think mainly. As town, I'd have claimed roleblocked as soon as it happened, without claiming what my role is. To help town know there is a roleblocker. Which is also bothering me. I wouldn't, because what if town roleblocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 n1 my action did not fail n2 it failed due to jail n3 my action did not fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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