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Using Nickt's splicing tutorial, I kinda made something decent. I'm looking for critique, advice, and possibly a shading tutorial since I know the least about that.

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And props to anyone who guesses what I was trying to do here.

*Edit* I'll have all the posted works up here so you viewers don't have to scroll every time I update.

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Child.png.f3784d3d332897430eea3d0daa3da9b6.png> 7/22/18 239313460_KSKid.png.ae22a675afda0a602180e5cbaeb453e6.png> 8/6/23

5c29c75ba3da9_1ColmNeimiBoy.png.374d0924c4779b75c12735dbc3c6472c.png> 8/2/18  Cade.png.0e5f86747463cc94a001136fcb5ba4df.png>11/29/22

1Testing2.png.093bb6dde6c46895b2a7bd2364249b7a.png> 12/31/18 1447456882_TanaEphraimKid.png.3b6e8fc35f1b2384558cb4cf6c0d6373.png> 11/29/22 TanaEphraimKid2.png.5c47f0446e0302150836d5faf2b2ec3d.png> 11/8/24

5c2d6a45189ec_2LuteArtur.png.53a3af263a935811db2aab9649622b45.png5c2d6a498afcd_1LuteArthur.png.f4cf1330a3e9d573175430f410fc4f14.png> 1/2/19 616696371_LuteArturKid.png.4d196ba91aa07d94fba76d552df2fca2.png> 11/29/22 1813039838_LAKid.png.8f2896c02b44dd9a00348aeaaa7d977e.png> 8/15/23

Eve.png.31be8a0ad94949e55141da0848ab57b0.png> 11/29/22

Franz.png.fb59ea3c0ee3f07e42114ac01f3ee361.png> 11/29/22

RossKid.png.032c56c2e3923d14d8f5e5f5d9dd13e8.png> 3/30/23

Ross.png.77221f47959a0e2933996025d6436d92.png> 3/30/23 Ross2.png.b435fa36b87bda9dd6f8431d29e49b6f.png 11/24/24

Kayla.png.bb1410f8dcd60e6171ccb2ac1b86a116.png> 4/6/23 Kayla.png.5efb5b56c6f7d389717ddae3ee071c7c.png> 4/10/23

514385714_FAKid.png.7b6f18d282e568a9851186bba89cc165.png> 8/6/23

 

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Personally I think the hair and face angle are fine. I think toward the left side the hair outline gets a bit too messy; it should be fine if that’s what you’re aiming for. I like it. Do you plan on using her in game?

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My intent was to create FE8 Kyle and Syrene's child, hence the messy hair and Vanessa's face. I've been taking a look through the paired endings and compiling the popular ships for a potential (likely never to take off) sequel to the game.

I can see now the face looks kinda tilted where the hair parts straight down, so I'll work on fixing that. 

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3 hours ago, Blake43215 said:

My intent was to create FE8 Kyle and Syrene's child, hence the messy hair and Vanessa's face. I've been taking a look through the paired endings and compiling the popular ships for a potential (likely never to take off) sequel to the game.

I can see now the face looks kinda tilted where the hair parts straight down, so I'll work on fixing that. 

Awesome. Post more as it goes on, I would love to see it. I like your concept. What are the other pairings you plan to do next?

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On 7/23/2018 at 8:24 PM, Minty908 said:

Awesome. Post more as it goes on, I would love to see it. I like your concept. What are the other pairings you plan to do next?

Niemi & Colm have a son and daughter, Franz & Amelia have a daughter, and Lute & Artur have a son, so I'll work on them next. This first one was the easiest because Syrene had a sister to splice off. I might work on Franz and Amelia next because they've got a similar situation.

Been busy this week, but I should have the next one out in a few days.

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Still looking for critique. Something about the face here bothers me, but I cant quite place it. *Edit* It's the eyes, Eyebrows are missing and he's wondering why. *Edit Edit* Almost Immediately I see flaws all over his poor face. The jaw, The eyes. I'll fix them soon as possible, anything I've missed please let me know.

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The intent is Colm/Neimi's son. He left home and found his way aboard a pirate crew. 

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On 7/28/2018 at 9:23 PM, Blake43215 said:

Still looking for critique. Something about the face here bothers me, but I cant quite place it. *Edit* It's the eyes, Eyebrows are missing and he's wondering why. *Edit Edit* Almost Immediately I see flaws all over his poor face. The jaw, The eyes. I'll fix them soon as possible, anything I've missed please let me know.

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The intent is Colm/Neimi's son. He left home and found his way aboard a pirate crew. 

It looks to compound on my opinion, many splices I see revolve around grabbing twi characters and throeing in everything they have as features. Sons aren't perfect combinations of their fathers you know? Like he has no reason to wear a headband like Neimi's since that isn't biological but other than that I think it's kinda cool.

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Pirate3.png.a475402b3793b33d6980a07dceaf0bca.png I'm really not good at these kinds of edits, but I tried to make the jawline less rough, and changed up the eyes as best as I could (Edit* Made the eyes better some more).

On 7/31/2018 at 11:43 PM, This boi uses Nino said:

It looks to compound on my opinion, many splices I see revolve around grabbing twi characters and throeing in everything they have as features. Sons aren't perfect combinations of their fathers you know? Like he has no reason to wear a headband like Neimi's since that isn't biological but other than that I think it's kinda cool.

The attire comes from the lore I've made up in my head, as well as info from the paired ending. My idea was that he left home at a young age to explore the world, and Neimi gave him her headband as a keepsake. 

Edit* I see what you mean, Hopefully that'll clear up when I ever get around to looking into FE8's color Palette. Right now Im basically ripping the exact hair/armor colors from them, but what I want to do is alter them a bit for a unique Palette.

 

 

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I took a while off to work on other things like being an adult, but now I've picked back up and made a new portrait. For this one I had live feedback from my artist sister (begrudgingly) so It should be a little cleaner. I still cant shade though. 

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Not so bad! Although it's true your shading isnt on point! Biggest issue with the hair is that they look pilloshaded. Something i used to do when sprinting more often was to put all the hair in mid-shade, then highlight where the light ''hit'' the hair and finish with the darkest shade to had some better contrast. It helped me to give a better flow to the hair and reduce pillowshaing. Maybe you could look how Karla, Isadora, Amelia, etc. are shaded to be a bit inspired.

The outline of the hair could also be a bit cleaned: make it smoother! And lightest shade can be right next to the outline color. I think it would help a lot to reduce the pillowshade (and same goes for 3rd shade, it help to give interresting contrast)

Scarf coulduse a bit more 2nd shade and a bit less 3rd shade. Also, since light comes from top right corner, you need to shade the area right next to the paldron on our right and the left part of the scarf above the paldron.

For the shading of the paldrons, maybe look at Franz or Ephraim or any other cavalier because right now the light source appear to come from 2 differents places for each paldron.

The left eye (our point of view) could use an extra pixel in height i think and a bit more color / a tad less outline color.

Lastly (i swear!), the head is a bit in a weird angle. Next seems like twisted 80-90 degree. I would suggest either to change a bit the orientation or to move the chin a couple (maybe 2-3) pixel off the neck line. (If you look at yourself in a mirror and you try to have that pose, you'll most likely be unconfortable =P)

 

I know i pointed couple issues, but it doesnt mean it's a bad sprite. It appear to have a good personnality. I feel like it's a squire who dreams to become the best. I also like the androgyne features: I'm not quite sure if it's a male or female character, but i like it.

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12 hours ago, Kratos Aurion said:

Not so bad! Although it's true your shading isnt on point! Biggest issue with the hair is that they look pilloshaded. Something i used to do when sprinting more often was to put all the hair in mid-shade, then highlight where the light ''hit'' the hair and finish with the darkest shade to had some better contrast. It helped me to give a better flow to the hair and reduce pillowshaing. Maybe you could look how Karla, Isadora, Amelia, etc. are shaded to be a bit inspired.

The outline of the hair could also be a bit cleaned: make it smoother! And lightest shade can be right next to the outline color. I think it would help a lot to reduce the pillowshade (and same goes for 3rd shade, it help to give interresting contrast)

Scarf coulduse a bit more 2nd shade and a bit less 3rd shade. Also, since light comes from top right corner, you need to shade the area right next to the paldron on our right and the left part of the scarf above the paldron.

For the shading of the paldrons, maybe look at Franz or Ephraim or any other cavalier because right now the light source appear to come from 2 differents places for each paldron.

The left eye (our point of view) could use an extra pixel in height i think and a bit more color / a tad less outline color.

Lastly (i swear!), the head is a bit in a weird angle. Next seems like twisted 80-90 degree. I would suggest either to change a bit the orientation or to move the chin a couple (maybe 2-3) pixel off the neck line. (If you look at yourself in a mirror and you try to have that pose, you'll most likely be unconfortable =P)

 

I know i pointed couple issues, but it doesnt mean it's a bad sprite. It appear to have a good personnality. I feel like it's a squire who dreams to become the best. I also like the androgyne features: I'm not quite sure if it's a male or female character, but i like it.

 

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I appreciate the feedback, and tried my hand at fixing the issues you pointed out. As far as the head angle, I tried to fix it by shifting the shading on her face, but other than that I'm not sure how to adjust anything without reworking the face. Hopefully it looks better.

You were pretty close when describing her. She's actually meant to be Ephraim's daughter, and developed something of an ego (Trying to fill his shoes) because of it.

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Not sure if this will get locked because of how long it's been quiet, but I'll post anyhow, better than starting a whole new thread over the same small topic.

So I've been Very casually working on these, and I'd like to think they improved a bit, so here's a few that are alright.

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Franz   |   Neimi & Colm's kids   |   Lute & Artur's son   |  Tana & Ephraim's Daughter.

L/A needs some work on the eyes, but I'm not sure if its a shading issue or positioning issue, and at this point I've looked too long at him to know for sure. *Edit, It was equal parts polishing and muddy eyes, it's a little better but again, feedback appreciated.
T/E looks waay too much like Farina, It's more of a showcase for the armor.

Still not confident enough to be freehanding any of these, but I've found that using art from other sequels (IE: PoR, Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon) helps as a sort of tutoring tool because of all the cleanup that's required to make it actually look ok.   

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  • 4 months later...

The mug for Colm/Neimi's boy shares a better resemblance to Ross. Speaking of which, like Franz, Here's an aged mug of him.


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As credits go, with Ross's mug I did splice some of it from another individuals work. 
I found that work on Reddit by an individual named u/Monkeybard. I had used some of their Hector sprite.

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9 hours ago, Blake43215 said:

A new post one week after the last, that's crazy! Anyway, here's another mug. This one's not related to any existing character, I just thought the mugs I'd been working on lacked unique positioning.

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It's a little bit Anna-esque, though the part of her hair is a little too far to the side, I think.

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On 4/7/2023 at 8:08 AM, AnonymousSpeed said:

It's a little bit Anna-esque, though the part of her hair is a little too far to the side, I think.

I tried to tweak the hair parting, hopefully it looks a bit better.
Regarding Anna-esque, would you believe me if I said I didn't splice any anna into this piece? I used the hand for reference, but it's actually fae's fingers.

That being said now that I saw it I couldn't unsee it, so I was messing with colors and think maybe this might be better.

*Edit* Made additional tweaks to the neck, hair tie, and general features to make her more like L'arachel.

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The Cavaliers!

I finally revisited Kyle and Syrene's kid, It's a far cry from 5 years ago, so that's cool.
Also Franz and Amelia's kid is pretty spiffy.

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Here's another update for Lute & Artur's kid as well... except now that I look a bit deeper, this one also looks like Kyle's kid too.

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