Zobear Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) I wanted to brainstorm the maximum amount of damage possible in a single hit. So far I've come up with this, using Dedue: 74 Strength +5(Max Cichol Statue) +4(Rally Strength) +3(Dimitri's Charm) +3(Hilda's Advocate) +3(Protags Sacred Power) +3(Dimitri A support) +2(Str +2) +8(Defiant Str) +6(Death Blow) +5(Lancefaire) +5(Lancefaire again) +10(King of Lions Corp.) +42(Spear of Assal against cavalry) +2(Vengeance base) +121(Dedue has 108 Health; HP +5, and the 3 King of Beasts Steaks raises this to 122, so vengeance can do 121 damage) This would do 297 damage to a generic (cavalry) enemy with 0 Prt. Getting a critical hit would do 891 damage. A crest raises this to 896. Suggest ways to increase. Will edit as we go along. Edited August 14, 2019 by Zobear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Geso Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) A similar calculation for Dimitri: 87 Strength + 5 + 1 + 4 + 3 (Hilda) + 3 (A support) + 2 (Str+2) + 8 (Defiant Str) + 6 (Death Blow) + 5 (Lancefaire) + 11 (Battalion) + 22 (Lance of Ruin) + 2 (Vengeance base) + 104 (Vengeance - Max HP is 99, HP+5 and the roast bring it to 105)- Dimitri can do 163 damage because of his higher strength cap, which makes up for losing out on his charm...presuming there is an A support that gives him 3 attack). I'm also assuming that all the skills which apply to Dedue will also apply to Dimitri, and I don't see why they wouldn't. A critical does 789. Edited August 7, 2019 by De Geso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, De Geso said: A similar calculation for Dimitri: 87 Strength + 5 + 1 + 4 + 3 (Hilda) + 3 (A support) + 2 (Str+2) + 8 (Defiant Str) + 6 (Death Blow) + 5 (Lancefaire) + 11 (Battalion) + 22 (Lance of Ruin) + 2 (Vengeance base) + 104 (Vengeance - Max HP is 99, HP+5 and the roast bring it to 105)- Dimitri can do 163 damage because of his higher strength cap, which makes up for losing out on his charm...presuming there is an A support that gives him 3 attack). I'm also assuming that all the skills which apply to Dedue will also apply to Dimitri, and I don't see why they wouldn't. A critical does 789. Only Dedue, Bernadetta and Cyril learn Vengeance as far as I know. If Dimitri could, he'd be the prime candidate Edited August 7, 2019 by Zobear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Geso Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zobear said: Only Dedue, Bernadetta and Cyril learn Vengeance as far as I know. If Dimitri could, he'd be the prime candidate I thought Vengeance was a combat art from the Lance of Ruin specifically, my mistake. In that case, yes, Dedue's is higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 Just now, De Geso said: I thought Vengeance was a combat art from the Lance of Ruin specifically, my mistake. In that case, yes, Dedue's is higher. Yeah, Lance of Ruin does has a unique skill, but it's kinda useless and only Sylvain can even use it so rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewaffles Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) Trade Lance of Ruin for Spear of Assal and use against Cavalry to make it a 42 might weapon. Edited August 7, 2019 by freewaffles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, freewaffles said: Trade Lance of Ruin for Spear of Assal and use against Cavalry to make it a 42 might weapon. Thanks! Will add that to original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 After some testing, I can say Annette's personal skill is treated as Rally Strength, and does not stack. Any Defense lowering skills are all treated as Seal Defense, and so do not stack. However, the "rattled" effect after being hit by a gambit lowers PRT, not DEF, by 2. Trying to stack this and Seal Defense results in rattled only lowering PRT by 1, no matter the order. So, at max, as far as I know, you can lower an enemy's DEF by 5, and their PRT by 1. I don't know for sure if "faire" skills stack, but will test so once I get Dedue to Lance S+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kremelover Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 There is a new game+ item that has a chance to increase combat art damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyniea Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Dimitri has that privilege because Atrocity is busted. Someone theoricrafted a 1500 damage hit on 4chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vyniea said: Dimitri has that privilege because Atrocity is busted. Well, weapon effectiveness triples weapon might, so even if it tripled the added damage from Atrocity as well, the most it would ever add is 102, and like I said, the combat art damage is not affected by effective damage. However, Dimitri's crest upgrade after the timeskip is something i need to look into. Doubling ATK is BUSTED and it might make Dimitri our candidate after all. 8 hours ago, Vyniea said: Someone theoricrafted a 1500 damage hit on 4chan. Damn, do you have a link to that? Might be worth looking into. 14 hours ago, kremelover said: There is a new game+ item that has a chance to increase combat art damage. SInce I'm on a NG+ run, I figured a crest item would help, but we know too little to theorise properly about them. We don't know the exact parameters Crests operate under, or how they affect damage dealt. Regardless, they will be used to increase damage. Just dunno by how much. Edited August 10, 2019 by Zobear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zobear Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Another day, more testing... Lancefaire DOES stack. Any Crest that "increases MT/Atk" simply deals 5 more damage, and crests don't stack as far as I know. Switched out 3 Sacred Beast Roasts for 3 King of Beasts Steaks, since the +3 HP is better than +1HP/STR All that's left is to actually do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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