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  1. BRSxIgnition
    Here's the scene translated and looked at by someone with experience in Japanese localization. (Slight spoilers obviously) Please base your opinions on Soleil and M!Kamui's supports on this from this message on. (I'm watching it currently and will update with my new thoughts on it all when I've finished watching it.)
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    Has this support even been confirmed to 100% exist? Or are we still going on the transcript someone posted on 4Chan?
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    Thing is, I just think that Soleil's apparent confused sexuality stems from bad writing and poor decisions on the part of IS. It's not a statement or offense of any kind, it's just them not thinking things through - again. Soleil should be able to romance female Kamui at the very least, since Kamui is already canonically Bi. This is IS' main slip up, likely only because they for some reason - either development or marketing wise - decided to limit themselves to 2 gay marriage options. Rgardless, the main issue I have with the support is that Soleil never gets a chance to say yes or no to the experiment. Kamui pulls a rather villain-like move and slips the powder into her drink. Even if he meant well, this NEEDS to be changed in the western release - hero and player characters should never pull jerk shit like this without player influence. I know that my Kamui would never do this.
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    This.
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    Point is, while Soleil should have been made a bisexual and able to S-rank both male and female characters, the only truly offensive thing in the M!Kamui + Soleil support line is the date-rape-drug move that Kamui pulls early on. As long as that is made consensual during translation, I won't have anything against this support. (it may not be perfect, but it won't be god awful anymore)
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    Oddly enough - and keep in mind I haven't bothered to read all 24 pages of this thread - I think I'd be alright with the support as long as they made the "magic powder" experiment consensual. Let me explain: Soleil is Bisexual. She leans more towards females, but in Foleo's support tree she reveals that she doesn't mind men, she just prefers women. (And has an infatuation with cute girls especially) This means that the main remaining sticking point with the support - other than the quality of it, which is admittedly bad - is that Kamui goes behind her back to spike her drink with the powder without even knowing beforehand if it's something she'd agree with or wanted. It's the - much less comical - equivalent of Kamui hearing that Marx had stomach pains and slipping laxatives in his food: I personally believe that my issues with this support tree could be easily solved by having Kamui STATE his plan beforehand and ask Soleil if it's something she's willing to try. At least then, it's Soleil's decision. Something like: = SO MUCH BETTER. (In my opinion) Remember, SF, heroes never go around drugging people. (Please at least make the support consensual, Nintendo. Please!)
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    See Title. We now know that there are two same-sex supports in Fire Emblem If/Fates, one for Nohr in the form of Zero, and one for Hoshido in the form of Shana. However these are S supports, and limited to the player avatar and these characters. Also, as we already know from leaks and Nintendo themselves though, there are also A+ support levels between certain pairs of characters, all of which are the same gender. Thing is, we cannot find any supports labeled A+ in the leaked text dump for the game, even though we've seen leaked screenshots showing the option. At this point, I'd like to ask those who are brave enough to watch the streams for the game to keep an eye out for the A+ option in the support menus and to report any instance of it's use here. I'd also like to ask those who are brave and smart enough to decode and look through the text dump and audio dump of the game to report anything that may have to do with the A+ supports here. Thank you all in advance for your help in figuring out the nature of this new support level.
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    That's really odd... We know it exists, even Polygon/Nintendo have referenced it, but the game code/text doesn't contain it? That's really... really odd.
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    That is true, my mistake. I got mixed up with the children's names and their respective fathers/mothers. This still doesn't remove the possibility of the A+ characters simply being gay pairings of characters that aren't the protagonist.
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    Repost, apologies.
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    I'll try to help you by narrowing things down: The player character cannot achieve A+ rank supports with any character, same sex or not. It's either A or S as their max, regardless of gender. Other characters however - like Luna and Camilla - can achieve A+ rank with same-sex characters. They cannot achieve an S-rank relationship. This means you need to look for Luna and Camilla's supports in the text dump and see if they mention marriage. If we now know that Zero is the male gay character, we now need to know who the female gay character is in Hoshido. Is it possible that it's Sakura? (We do know she can A+ rank with Aqua/Azura) Could you please change the title to reflect the confirmation of same-sex supports? Please change the title to "Support System Thread - Same-Sex Options Confirmed" or something to that effect. And chin up! It may not be that limited, since the other characters like Luna and Camilla still have A+ supports with each other. They just won't be with the Avatar.
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    Wait, by "Zero and Shara" you mean each of them being same-sex romanceable, not them being paired up, right? Because Zero is male and Shara is obviously female, so it wouldn't be same sex for the pair. Please continue digging - the more proof we find the happier I'm getting! Is there "Player Woman" or "Player Female" in there?
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    Since? Nobody has been officially called lesbian or gay. Nobody has changed any sexuality to be with him/her.
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    Ah, bisexual then.
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    According to this chart, Carmilla may very well be a lesbian. [spoiler=Fire Emblem Fates Parents and Children] ... Since children don't rely on their mother anymore, at least. It also matches up with Luna's A+ support possibility.
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    What if the plot twist is that Kamui is some kind of descendant of the Dragons and both sides want him/her so they lie and say that Kamui is part of their family in order to get him/her to stay?
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    Judging by how the supports are shown in the menu, A+ replaces S for certain characters. All of which are the same gender. (We've yet to see any that are heterosexual in nature.) This is likely involved with the plot - perhaps the story requires that a child is born from the Avatar Character? (Kanna) See above. It's possible that Kanna is plot relevant and having a child as the Avatar is required? Thing is, Aqua and Sakura can A+ support each other. They have no relation at all. Not as subordinates or family. See above for the Avatar explanation. I wouldn't mind it if they limited it to certain characters who work together though - it'd be more realistic than some of the fringe pairings found in Awakening. Agreed, and agreed - but ah well, it's a good first step. We never really thought IS would nail it out of the park on their first attempt anyway. It's becoming more and more likely that the siblings aren't really blood related on both sides. Why do you think that, given the facts we have currently? Also, if it's for plot reasons, it makes sense. S-Rank means Children, A+ Rank means no Children. This would be the best way of explaining it, IMO. I really hope Nintendo grows the F*CK up and stops censoring things like this. I let it pass for the Cousins because admittedly that's a grey area - but if they pulled the same stunt for gay characters.... "Strong Bonds" - so.... Gay? Honestly, how much stronger must they be once they've already acheived A? A is all Robin and Chrom could get in Awakening assuming both were male, and they were one of the closest friendships in the game. This and this. Maybe it's simply a logistics thing? Of course you can't create endless children in the game, it'd be too much work for them to make that many characters, and it wouldn't be feasible. Of course it had to end at some point. It wasn't that they didn't have children, it's that the story wasn't about the GRANDchildren, it was about the second generation, the Children. According to rumors and leaks, they may not actually be your family. (In both cases) Like many, I really hope that it's an actual proper relationship rather than some stupid "We're extra close COMRADE~!" bullshit.
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    Please don't crush our dreams like that. I'd assume they would have said subordinates if that was the case, but instead they said "same gender." I want to believe!
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    In Camilla's screenshot, you can see that Luna can A+ rank with both her and another rider. It's more likely that it's same gender characters, not just subordinates, since males are still registered as "S" for Camilla.
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    So... Fire Emblem If is officially out in the wild now, thanks to a Chinese store that broke street date on the game. There's even a stream up on a Chinese website with the player using a female avatar. (Ask for the current link in the chatroom) What I'm posting about however isn't to talk about isn't the leak or the story, it's the supports, and a big addition to them. Yep, I'm bringing up those again. But why you ask? [spoiler=Introduction of "A+" Supports]This It's all fine and dandy that the avatar can S-rank with their Nohrian family (and even their Hoshido family, apparently) but what I'd like to draw people's attention to are the supports. Not only do previous support ranks C through A and S appear - as they did in Fire Emblem Awakening - but now there are also "A+" supports. Just another level of supports right? Nope. They are all limited to characters of the same gender. This may be a new system to show the player which couples can have children and which can't, but it could also simply be a cop-out where same sex partners get passed off as "best friends" or "comrades." I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter, but either way it's a step in the right direction. What are your thoughts? Since so little is known at the moment, anyone who can read Chinese/Japanese and doesn't mind spoilers is urged to watch the stream and explain what they mean. Discuss!
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    AKA Essentially a timeskip (option 2) but faster.
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    Sooo... There are 3 possibilities with the children. They appear via time travel shenanigans, in the time of their parents. They appear after a time skip, and IS was simply too lazy to age the portraits. They appear in these "Dream Islands" I've heard about. Which is most likely?
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    Having any control over who is attracted to what gender is the same as making everyone bi, and is pandering. Some people just wont be interested in you, people have to deal with that. Kamui can be programatically Bisexual - that makes sense because it allows the player to decide who they go for and end up with. However, making the entire cast romanceable by a same sex Kamui is not fair, not realistic, and not respectful. People don't suddenly change their sexuality for anyone, that's not how sexuality works.
  24. BRSxIgnition
    Er - I'm sorry to say this but you've completely misread - and/or misunderstood - all of my posts throughout this thread then, as what I want is far less the Bioware Route, and more exactly what you stated in the second stated paragraph. Actually, I'd love it if that's how romantic LGBT supports are handled in IF. I don't want the characters sexuality to be their entirety, but there should be a woman who can only romance (S-Support) women, a man who can only romance (S-Support) men, and a man and a woman who can S-Support with both. (4 LGBT characters total, not including the programatically bi Kamui. AKA: exactly what you just said, but with some characters being realistically limited. It's L.G.B.T after all, not B.B.B.B.
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    Ah I see - I had a pretty knee-jerk reaction when I first saw the post. I'll be fine as long as IS gives it an earnest attempt though - bad or not, for a first attempt it's better than not having any inclusion of it at all.
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