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Gotcha. I was just wondering if there was some empirical formula for calculating this, but it doesn't seem like there is since characters are deliberately made to be imbalanced. Thanks a ton!

Does anyone know why the total growth rates of Fates characters differ? I understand that perhaps the royals ought to have a higher total since they're supposed to be OP. But why do Effie and Benny (knights) or Kaze and Kagero (ninjas) have different totals? Does it have to do with percentage allocation, or are the characters inherently imbalanced for whatever reason (and therefore some being statistically destined to be better than others, RNGesus willing)?

I think something like this is the best compromise. Ultimately, I feel having the kids using their parents' respective weapon would be really fun.

Address: 09346-44864-41151-28555 Region: North America Current Castle: Conquest I Last Updated: Aug. 17 I thought I ought to share all the teams I've assembled. Feel free to request any skill from any file or to just recruit a unit in its entirety! My main castle is Conquest I, but I plan on rotating all of them around, and I'll be sure to mark which castle is currently active. Happy Embleming! P.S. I visit back for bond units. My calling cards are Prince(ss) Crowns-- depending on your avatar’s gender. CONQUEST I Castle Name: Yorozuya Apt. Avatar: Kagura Resources: Sapphire and Wheat Notes: All Buildings Lvl. 3; No Weapons Equipped (support grind); Lilith; Dusk Dragon (staff grind) [spoiler=Units] On the Field: Avatar - Aptitude, Replicate, Lifetaker, Death Blow, Quixotic [Rend Heaven, Hoshidan Unity, Seal Speed, Seal Defense, Lancefaire, Swap, Dragon Fang, Dragon Ward, Nobility] Xander - Swordfaire, Armored Blow, Renewal, Darting Blow, Rend Heaven [Aegis, Pavise, Elbow Room, Shelter, Defender] Camilla - Axefaire, Bowbreaker, Savage Blow, Lifetaker, Trample [Renewal, Rend Heaven, Counter, Strength +2, Lunge] Leo - Renewal, Tomefaire, Death Blow, Certain Blow, Vengeance [Lifetaker, Replicate, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Seal Magic] Kaze - Replicate, Quick Draw, Shurikenfaire, Death Blow, Renewal [Trample, Lethality, Poison Strike, Locktouch] Effie - Lancefaire, Pavise, Luna, Wary Fighter, Renewal [sol, Movement +1, Defense +2, Natural Cover] Niles - Lifetaker, Certain Blow, Rend Heaven, Life and Death, Bowfaire [Quick Draw, Trample, Pass, Locktouch, Shurikenbreaker, Rally Skill, Movement +1] Siegbert - Swordfaire, Quixotic, Armored Blow, Renewal, Dragon Fang [Lifetaker, Darting Blow, Death Blow, Elbow Room, Shelter, Luna] Midori - Shurikenfaire, Amaterasu, Death Blow, Lethality, Vantage [Poison Strike, Astra, Poison Strike, Quick Salve, Locktouch] Shigure - Dragon Fang, Renewal, Bowbreaker, Hoshidan Unity, Draconic Hex [Darting Blow, Quick Draw, Rally Speed, Camaraderie] Benched: Azura - Countermagic, Vantage, Foreign Princess, Amaterasu, Renewal [inspiring Song, Luck +4] DLC Jakob - Live to Serve, Pavise, Lethality, Tomebreaker, Shurikenfaire [Aegis, Gentilhomme, Resistance +2; Dread Fighter: Even Keel, Iron Will, Clarity, and/or Aggressor available if wished to recruit] M!Kana - Grisly Wound, Rend Heaven, Quixotic, Hoshidan Unity, Draconic Hex [Dragon Fang, Nobility] Ophelia - Death Blow, Swordfaire, Astra, Lifetaker, Vengeance [Life and Death, Vantage, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Duelist Blow] Velouria - Grisly Wound, Renewal, Gamble, Better Odds, Death Blow [Odd Shaped, Beastbane] Forrest - Renewal, Live to Serve, Gentilhomme, Foreign Princess, Miracle [Tomefaire, Rally Skill, Resistance +2] Nina - Bowfaire, Counter, Life and Death, Lifetaker, Death Blow [shurikenbreaker, Movement +1, Locktouch, Rally Skill] Conquest II Castle Name: Kakariko Avatar: Kamui Resources: Ruby and Wheat Notes: All Buildings Lvl. 3; Lilith; Dusk Dragon (staff grind) [spoiler=Units] On the Field: DLC Avatar - Renewal, Vengeance, Swordfaire, Pass, Quixotic [Dread Fighter: Even Keel, Iron Will, Clarity, and/or Aggressor available if wished to recruit] Xander - Pass, Armored Blow, Renewal, Darting Blow, Rend Heaven Camilla - Axefaire, Bowbreaker, Savage Blow, Renewal, Rend Heaven DLC Leo - Renewal, Tomefaire, Counter, Quixotic, Astra [Grandmaster: Tactical Advice, Solidarity, Rally Spectrum, and/or Ignis available if wished to recruit] DLC Elise - Counter, Lifetaker, Savage Blow, Rend Heaven, Tomefaire [Witch: Shadowgift, Witch's Brew, Warp, and/or Toxic Brew available if wished to recruit] Benny - Wary Fighter, Armored Blow, Lancefaire, Renewal, Aegis Niles - Astra, Bowfaire, Quixotic, Life and Death, Death Blow Kaze - Death Blow, Shurikenfaire, Renewal, Lethality, Savage Blow Silas - Darting Blow, Trample, Pavise, Lethality, Renewal DLC Selena/Severa - Shurikenbreaker, Renewal, Trample, Swordfaire, Rend Heaven [Great Lord: Charm, Dual Striker, Aether, and/or Awakening available if wished to recruit] Birthright Castle Name: Smashville Avatar: Kaguya Resources: Coral and Daikon Notes: All Buildings Lvl. 3; Lilith [spoiler=Units] On the Field: Avatar - Replicate, Quixotic, Gamble, Lifetaker, Death Blow Takumi - Rend Heaven, Death Blow, Bowfaire, Lifetaker, Counter Ryoma - Swordfaire, Astra, Vantage, Renewal, Duelist's Blow Saizo - Trample, Shurikenfaire, Lethality, Renewal, Death Blow DLC Azama - Death Blow, Lifetaker, Armored Blow, Savage Blow, Life and Death [Dread Fighter: Even Keel, Iron Will, Clarity, and/or Aggressor available if wished to recruit] DLC Orochi - Certain Blow, Tomefaire, Pavise, Renewal, Vantage [Witch: Shadowgift, Witch's Brew, Warp, and/or Toxic Brew available if wished to recruit] Kagero - Shurikenfaire, Death Blow, Astra, Savage Blow, Renewal Oboro - Seal Defense, Seal Speed, Lancefaire, Renewal, Astra Shiro - Astra, Savage Blow, Seal Defense, Renewal, Lancefaire Kiragi - Bowfaire, Quixotic, Death Blow, Dragon Fang, Lifetaker Revelation Castle Name: Vallaka Flocka Avatar: Astrid Resources: Topaz and Wheat; Pearl and Peaches Notes: All Buildings Lvl. 3; Lilith; Dusk Dragon (staff grind) [spoiler=Units] On the Field: Avatar - Dragon Fang, Swordfaire, Renewal, Quixotic, Death Blow Camilla - Trample, Savage Blow, Bowbreaker, Rend Heaven, Renewal DLC Xander - Swordfaire, Renewal, Rend Heaven, Nohrian Trust, Armored Blow [Lodestar: Dancing Blade, Charm, Dual Guardsman, and/or Speedtaker if wished to recruit] Ryoma - Astra, Swordfaire, Renewal, Quixotic, Luna Leo - Death Blow, Tomefaire, Renewal, Vengeance, Savage Blow Takumi - Rend Heaven, Death Blow, Bowfaire, Lifetaker, Quixotic DLC Kaze - Shurikenfaire, Savage Blow, Astra, Renewal, Quick Draw [Dread Fighter: Even Keel, Iron Will, Clarity, and/or Aggressor available if wished to recruit] Saizo - Lethality, Shurikenfaire, Poison Strike, Renewal, Death Blow Hinata - Lancefaire, Vantage, Lifetaker, Rend Heaven, Duelist's Blow Midori - Shurikenfaire, Astra, Death Blow, Draconic Hex, Renewal

Reposting since it's been awhile: Address: 09346-44864-41151-28555 / Avatar: Kagura / Fort: Yorozuya Apt. / Last Updated: May 27 On the Field: Crit-Hit Kagura - Aptitude, Replicate, Lifetaker, Death Blow, Quixotic [Rend Heaven, Hoshidan Unity, Seal Speed, Seal Defense, Lancefaire, Swap, Dragon Fang, Dragon Ward, Nobility] The Great Wall of Xander - Swordfaire, Aegis, Renewal, Darting Blow, Rend Heaven [Pavise, Elbow Room, Shelter, Defender] Camilla - Axefaire, Bowbreaker, Savage Blow, Lifetaker, Counter [Trample, Strength +2, Lunge] Leo the Angry God - Replicate, Lifetaker, Death Blow, Certain Blow, Vengeance [Tomefaire, Renewal, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Seal Magic] Jakob - Live to Serve, Pavise, Lethality, Tomebreaker, Shurikenfaire, [Aegis, Gentilhomme, Resistance +2] Kaze the Lightning Strike - Replicate, Lethality, Shurikenfaire, Death Blow, Trample [Renewal, Quick Draw, Poison Strike, Locktouch] Effie the Pretty Pink MRAP - Lancefaire, Sol, Luna, Wary Fighter, Renewal [Movement +1, Defense +2, Natural Cover] Niles the OHKO - Quick Draw, Certain Blow, Trample, Life and Death, Bowfaire [Lifetaker, Rend Heaven, Pass, Locktouch, Shurikenbreaker, Rally Skill, Movement +1] Gene Pool Jackpot Siegbert - Swordfaire, Quixotic, Death Blow, Lifetaker, Dragon Fang [Renewal, Darting Blow, Armored Blow, Elbow Room, Shelter, Luna] M!Kana - Grisly Wound, Rend Heaven, Quixotic, Hoshidan Unity, Draconic Hex [Dragon Fang, Nobility] Benched: Azura the Corporeal Healing Charm - Countermagic, Vantage, Foreign Princess, Amaterasu, Renewal [inspiring Song, Luck +4] Shigure - Quick Draw, Renewal, Bowbreaker, Darting Blow, Draconic Hex [Hoshidan Unity, Dragon Fang, Rally Speed, Camaraderie] Midori - Shurikenfaire, Amaterasu, Deathblow, Astra, Vantage [Poison Strike, Lethality, Poison Strike, Quick Salve, Locktouch] Ophelia the Butcher - Death Blow, Swordfaire, Astra, Lifetaker, Vengeance [Life and Death, Vantage, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Duelist Blow] Velouria the Omnipotent - Grisly Wound, Renewal, Gamble, Better Odds, Death Blow [Odd Shaped, Beastbane] Forrest - Renewal, Live to Serve, Gentilhomme, Foreign Princess, Miracle [Tomefaire, Rally Skill, Resistance +2] Nina the Clincher - Bowfaire, Counter, Life and Death, Lifetaker, Death Blow [shurikenbreaker, Movement +1, Locktouch, Rally Skill] Battle Notes: No weapons for support grinding Straight shot to an empty throne from the bottom Lilith at the top right Dusk Dragon Level 3 (for those who need to stave grind) Buildings (all Level 3): Wheat Field (defense) Sapphire Mine (axes) Smithy Staff Store Dusk Armory Accessory Shop Mess Hall Arena Einherjar Shop Hot Spring Traveler's Plaza I’m usually pretty quick to respond to requests if you need anything swapped! I also make an effort to visit back and leave feedback and accessories. Happy Embleming! :) P.S. I’m doing a Birthright run too. I only update (as in using the crystal ball) my Conquest castle, but if for some hiccup you end up at a fort called Smashville with an avatar named Kaguya in Hoshido, let me know so I can correct the mistake!

Yeah, I didn't expand or defend further because you basically have it right: Azama's a dick, but it may actually be for "X" more serious reason that you might not have caught, and maybe it could change your mind about him. In the end you still dislike him, which is perfectly fine too. I have no problem that you disagree, just with the unnecessary snark. But I'm learning that this isn't the tone of SF, and if I want to do something like this again, I'll take it to a different site. I will apologize for the shit title, but not for the post itself. Just because it's a game I don't think it's unreasonable to analyze. Someone on the localization may have taken special interest in Azama. The wording is too good of a coincidence.

Right, but there is that nuance of thinking you were talking about before. It seems Crosby is saying that just because you're a nihilist doesn't mean you ought to off yourself since your life is a random blip in the universe. Deciding to live on is perfectly in line with nihilism-- just so long as you never forget that your life is pointless. Absurdism, on the other hand, is accepting that life is pointless but simultaneously rebelling against it anyway.

Eh, looking back, the title should've been different. I'll admit. No hard feelings, but now I'm just realizing Serenes Forest isn't the place for post like these since it seems like people are more interested in being the most correct rather than discussions.

First, sorry about the triple post. I'm like two weeks fresh into the forum. Second, the title is kind of snarky, sure, but it's meant to be humorous. I'm not actually calling anyone dumb. Don't be quick to get offended and belittle the post because you don't like the title. My point to was to show that Azama's a dick, but there's a valid argument to be had about his behavior. I'm not shitposting arguing he's best husbando. You're not countering anything significant. You're just being pedantic and passing it off as a legit rebuttal. And I don't get what you're trying to prove with the quote. Existential nihilism isn't a contradiction. It's a subset of nihilism. It just means he's taking a platform and saying the existence of humanity in its entirety is nothing special.

Monk/holy man, the philosophical argument for absurdism considers it all the same. Fates isn't perfect, far from it. I get it. But it's pretty harsh to totally dismiss the localization team like that. It's their job do this, and I think someone on the team probably took a shine to Azama and paid him special attention. Absolutely fair. Makes me adore him more though. MODEDIT: don't doublepost, yeah, but also don't triplepost

Yes. Azama is absolutely hysterical. He’s the antithesis of a traditional holy man– impatient, condescending, and a bully. Now, now. I know what you’re thinking: He’s a monk but a dick! Of course that’s why he’s funny! He’s a hypocrite! However, best put in his wise words, “I’m sorry that you’re totally wrong about everything.” Azama’s cruel behavior corresponds to his personal philosophy more than you understand. Despite it being the wildly common claim, he’s actually not a nihilist. Azama’s an absurdist. Absurdism is the third, lesser-known sibling to existentialism and nihilism.Existentialists believe humans can imbue meaning to life while nihilists think life is intrinsically meaningless and trying to ascribe some kind of meaning is futile and irrational. Yet it could be said that absurdists are like a paradoxical combination of the two schools of thought. Absurdists believe that while life is indeed intrinsically meaningless, one ought pursue the experience of life itself anyway– to live on in spite its contradictions and dilemmas. One can “reject” the absurd in two ways: 1) suicide and 2) religion. Suicide outright denies the experience of living, and to place faith in a religion is to willingly stay ignorant about the ultimate insignificance of a life. [x] But Azama’s a monk! Yes, yes. I hear you, and you see, that’s exactly how Azama has embraced the third option: to accept the absurd. He’s not necessarily a pious monk. (Whether it be enemy soldiers or bears, he has no qualms over killing.) Furthermore, he originally became a monk in hopes to mitigate his horrible temper. In meditation, Azama has found something that works for him, and he’s making use of his time being a monk with the full awareness that him being a “holy man” utterly holds no value. That’s why he doesn’t take being a monk and a healer and a retainer seriously. He may realize he’s smarter than most, but he also realizes that he’s truly no holier-(or-more-important)-than-thou. He never questions his comrades for their morality, just their stupidity. Arguably, he’s the most grounded character. Because instead of establishing a god-complex for all his talents and imparting his knowledge onto simpler minds, he doesn’t give two shits about anything since he knows no creation is any more more special than the next. So who is he to try and pretend like he’s someone better? Azama’s a dick because…might as well get some cheap laughs out of a ride you didn’t sign up for. Right? [x] ~~~ Whoever worked on Azama for the localization deserves a huge bonus– they did their philosophy homework! See?! I’m learning something as a philosophy major in college! [ugly cries]

Update number 2!

Oh my god. This makes me feel as old as dirt.

This is pretty damn close to what I think. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the Nohr siblings being older than their Hoshido counterparts, except for Sakura being older than Elise.

I've got some pretty unique skills and builds for Nohr parents and kids. Just follow the link in my signature, and I'd be happy to swap in anything you may need. :)

I absolutely understand where you're coming from...but I can't help but think that's reading too much into one line. How many times have your parents or older siblings scolded you to behave more like an adult at 15? People aren't raising kids; they're raising adults. I think Leo's mature enough to realize that.

Yeah, I agree with these-- especially Reina. And I would put Gunter in his late 40's. (Hell, he always talks about how old he is. I wouldn't argue him being in his 50's.)

Specifically the royals. I would say: Xander/Ryoma - Mid (possibly late) 20's Camilla/Hinoka - Early 20's Kamui/Corrin - Late teens (nearing 20) Leo/Takumi - 16-17 Elise/Sakura - 14-15 I'm guesstimating from the ages of Awakening since the artist is the same. So then I would put the majority of the cast's age between 17-22, which makes me feel relieved. Having too many child soldiers squicks me out.

Just an update! :)

First things first, at least 1 staver with a freeze and equip your leading units with vulneraries. Now, for the first half of the map, you're on the attack. Take advantage of the fire orbs and ballistas (the one to the east being the more important ballista to cover) or at least have someone stand on the tiles to plug them up. Have Camilla and partner choke the point by the house to the south and send Corrin and partner to the opposite site of that wall to stop the flow of enemies there (since they should be your strongest units). Send your sword/magic users to the west to take care of the axers and send tank-y units to the east to pick off the relatively weak archers. Keep a pair or two dead in the middle of the map just in-case some enemies slip by your vanguard. Once Takumi dries up the river, immediately switch to defensive mode, AND DON'T BE A HERO. Separate your pairs and have them stand on all the green tiles up top. Make Camilla and Corrin (and company) zip around to pick off all enemies they can until the end and have your staver(s) freeze those last-second flying units to buy Camilla or Corrin time to kill them. This chapter is definitely requires trial and error, but IMO it's probably the best designed map in all three games. It's pushes your tactical prowess, but in a fair way. So have fun and feel proud of yourself once you beat it! :)

I name things just to keep myself entertained. Seeing the same generic weapon name on, like, three different units at the same gets monotonous after awhile. My Corrin's got a forged Killer Lance named Sadaharu. (Gintama reference.) Kaze's holding a superforged Pebble named Freddy Bear. Ophelia's got a sword named Willow Brook referencing Hamlet. Shigure's has a lance called Punchable Face 'cuz he has a hella punchable face with that stupid emo fringe. Niles has two forged bows named Switch-Hitter and Money Shot. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Crap, my bad. Should be good to go now.

Address: 09346-44864-41151-28555 / Avatar: Kagura / Fort: Yorozuya Apt. / Last Updated: May 5 On the Field: Crit-Hit Kagura - Aptitude, Replicate, Lifetaker, Death Blow, Quixotic [Rend Heaven, Hoshidan Unity, Seal Speed, Seal Defense, Lancefaire, Swap, Dragon Fang, Dragon Ward, Nobility] The Great Wall of Xander - Swordfaire, Aegis, Renewal, Darting Blow, Rend Heaven [Pavise, Elbow Room, Shelter, Defender] Camilla - Axefaire, Bowbreaker, Savage Blow, Lifetaker, Counter [Trample, Strength +2, Lunge] Kaze the Lightning Strike - Replicate, Lethality, Shurikenfaire, Death Blow, Renewal [Quick Draw, Trample, Poison Strike, Locktouch] Niles the OHKO - Quick Draw, Certain Blow, Trample, Life and Death, Bowfaire [Rend Heaven, Lifetaker, Pass, Locktouch, Shurikenbreaker, Rally Skill, Movement +1] Leo the Angry God - Certain Blow, Renewal, Death Blow, Tomefaire, Vengeance [Replicate, Lifetaker, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Seal Magic] Effie the Pretty Pink MRAP - Lancefaire, Sol, Luna, Renewal, Wary Fighter [Movement +1, Defense +2, Natural Cover] Jakob - Live to Serve, Pavise, Lethality, Tomebreaker, Shurikenfaire [Aegis, Gentilhomme, Resistance +2] Gene Pool Jackpot Siegbert - Quixotic, Darting Blow, Death Blow, Renewal, Dragon Fang [Lifetaker, Armored Blow, Swordfaire, Elbow Room, Shelter, Luna] M!Kana - Grisly Wound, Rend Heaven, Quixotic, Hoshidan Unity, Draconic Hex [Dragon Fang, Nobility] Benched: Azura the Healing Charm - Countermagic, Inspiring Song, Foreign Princess, Amaterasu, Renewal [Vantage, Luck +4] Ophelia the Butcher - Death Blow, Swordfaire, Astra, Lifetaker, Vengeance [Life and Death, Vantage, Malefic Aura, Heartseeker, Duelist Blow] Forrest - Renewal, Live to Serve, Gentilhomme, Foreign Princess, Miracle [Tomefaire, Rally Skill, Resistance +2] Midori - Potent Potion, Shurikenfaire, Lethality, Deathblow, Astra [Vantage, Poison Strike, Amaterasu, Poison Strike, Quick Salve, Locktouch] Shigure - Dragon Fang, Renewal, Bowbreaker, Darting Blow, Draconic Hex [Hoshidan Unity, Quick Draw, Warding Blow, Rally Speed, Camaraderie] Velouria and the Beast - Grisly Wound, Renewal, Gamble, Better Odds, Death Blow [Odd Shaped, Beastbane] Nina the Clincher - Bowfaire, Counter, Life and Death, Lifetaker, Death Blow [shurikenbreaker, Movement +1, Locktouch, Rally Skill] Battle Notes: No weapons for support grinding Straight shot to an empty throne from the bottom Lilith at the top right Dusk Dragon Level 3 (for those who need to stave grind) Buildings (all Level 3): Wheat Field (defense) Sapphire Mine (axes) Smithy Staff Store Dusk Armory Accessory Shop Mess Hall Arena Einherjar Shop Hot Spring Traveler's Plaza I'm usually pretty quick to respond to requests if you need anything swapped! I also make an effort to visit back and leave feedback and accessories. Happy Embleming! :) P.S. I'm doing a Birthright run too. I only update (as in using the crystal ball) my Conquest castle, but if for some hiccup you end up at a fort called Smashville with an avatar named Kaguya in Hoshido, let me know so I can correct the mistake!

I've played through Conquest twice, and Chapter 24 (Hinoka's map) makes me want to chuck my DS off my balcony. Not being able to save at endgame is pretty annoying too though. Who's bright idea at IS was that?