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Hey, I don't know if anyone has said this before but... I have a theory that exp, is actually quintessence. It seems logical, to me at least, that when you kill someone in Fire Emblem, you get their quintessence. How else do you explain someone training and training devoting themselves to their skills for years, and they're still level 3. But as soon as they start killing people... Boom! Level 12 in 4-6 levels. I know there are going to be inconsistencies when we start getting into this. (Full disclaimer, I have not beat the game yet, I'm going off of what I know so far (Ch26 Battle Before Dawn)) But kinda what I was thinking was, that when you kill someone you get thier quintessence, but it takes that special magic to harness that quintessence into a storeable form, so that you can then give it to SOMEONE (Nergal), or use it for certain rituals (Like summoning dragons). I thought of this Theory during one of Marth and Kris' supports (FE12). When Kris was talking about the rush got when he "Basks in his newfound power" after defeating an enemy. Thank you for reading my weird theory, I hope you enjoyed on some level ^^ __________________________________ Just finished chapter 26, and did a little research, we see quintessence taken from people alive and dead, so if it just is residual someone might be able to absorb part of it? It is a very mysterious substance this far in the game. Again dark magic is there to take ALL the leftover quintessence, or all of it if the person is still alive. I think that through discussion this is making more sense, to me at least.
So in several Fire Emblem games, we have certain staves that have the power to actually revive dead units. Or in Gaiden/Echoes, a certain spring water that can revive fallen units and what Mila did in Echoes. These staves are: Aum Staff Valkyrie Staff Bifröst Now, because of how players generally try NOT to have any units die, these staves are generally falling under the category of being "too awesome to use" and are always just locked into storage. Shame really. However, how does it work? Are there any limitations behind it? Or can it just revive anyone? Well, let's take a step back all the way to Genealogy of the Holy War, the Holy Grail of Fire Emblem itself. Our character Claud, the descendant of the Crusader Blaggi, attains the Holy Weapon, the Valkyrie Staff. He is accompanied by Tailtiu, and the two converse regarding the weapon: Keep in mind that the Valkyrie Staff was most definitely created by the power of a dragon. But even with that, the staff has limitations. This is also explained in regards to Mila in an Awakening DLC when we recruit Celica's Einherjar, and she explains that even Mila has limitations on whom she can revive. These limitations are restricted to the life force within us called "Aegir", which if you are not aware, is the Japanese term for "Quintessence", the major plotpoint of FE7. So even before FE7 came out, Kaga already put in the theory of quintessence into his work, but just never delved too deeply into it. FE7 also utilized it a lot, but didn't go too in depth about how it works. However, put it simply, to talk about how revival works, I will have to talk about quintessence as well. Quintessence is essentially the source of life, as without quintessence, we die. And when we die, the quintessence we have is released. No one is also born with the same amount of quintessence as someone else. It's all predetermined. Thus you will die in due course. Dragons though have a LOT of quintessence in them, which makes sense since literally no one seemed to have died of old age. Bantu is still implied to be alive and kicking in Awakening, and he was a wizened old man in the Archanea series and now with 2000 more years onto his age. Quintessence can also be used with magic, as by harnessing quintessence, you can extend your lifespan, heal from fatal injuries, and even create new life with it. Even in Fates, you can actually understand that someone has accidentally dabbled in quintessence, being Nyx. She used magic by mistake that resulted in the deaths of everyone in her village, but in exchange, she was cursed with an inability to grow older. This isn't a young body, but in fact an extremely high lifespan, born from absorbing everyone's quintessence in her village. She actually will age, but it will require a lot of time, but she doesn't understand this yet because she hasn't lived at the point when growth actually will happen. Anyways, so my theory is that I never actually thought of quintessence as the soul itself. But rather, quintessence is the energy that binds souls into the mortal plane. Souls normally should not exist in the mortal realm, but through the energy that is quintessence, the soul has a thread to bind it to it. So any living thing that has their quintessence run out, the soul no longer has a thread to the mortal realm and thus the soul leaves, causing the person to die. So generally when the soul leaves, the body will remain dead. This is very much explained in this one particular DLC chapter in New Mystery of the Emblem. A soul that has left the body is gone forever, meaning that the soul no longer exists in the mortal plane, cannot be revived even if a new body is brought into place. But Gharnef here can be revived because his soul never left the mortal place, but was sealed inside the Darksphere, and was released, but still somehow lingered, possibly due to the Imhullu tome. This actually explains a lot when you think about it. The morphs that we see in FE7 are just bodies created by quintessence, but had no true soul in them at first. It's possible that with time and such, a soul does form within it, or a soul is drawn to it. However, what does this have to do with the Staves, the Mila Springs, and Mila herself in revivals and quintessence? Sorry, I get off track at times. Anyways, the point is that those people with enough quintessence, even after death, their soul has not fully left the mortal place. It's possible that the remaining quintessence allowed the soul to keep itself in the mortal realm, though not enough to allow the body to survive. However, using the staves and power of the gods, it was able to draw on the power of quintessence, and restore the quintessence in the soul and restore the body back to its original form, allowing the quintessence to sustain the soul once more, and thus allowing life to be brought back. However, such a power is extremely great and something that cannot be used that well. This makes perfect sense as to why the Staves break after one use. Though the Valkyrie Staff can be repaired to use more times, it still seems there is a limit, as Kaga had in one of his note write this: So it's saying that eventually the Valkyrie Staff has a set number of uses before the power of the dragon's quintessence that resided in the dragonstone, and possibly the quintessence in Claud's own body, was consumed, thus preventing the use ever again. This theory on quintessence can also tie into why entities like Grima and Naga cannot die, the latter I mentioned here in this thread: And there you go. This is my theory on how revival in Fire Emblem works, and how quintessence functions. Let me know about your thoughts and ideas. I would love to hear about them, and get into any debates about things as well.
So as you all know, in Fire Emblem Awakening, Naga states that neither she nor Grima can kill the other, as neither are true gods. However, then we get in Future Past 3 where Grima states that he had in fact killed Naga, so Lucina cannot perform the Awakening. Naturally, this contradicts what Naga claimed about how they cannot kill one another. But then there's the case about Tiki suddenly appeared in spirit form, and declared that she has become the new Naga. This implies that Naga is in fact a title that powerful Manaketes can inherit, and this Naga is not necessarily the original Naga, but is that truly the case? Allow me to explain by using a term that FE7 players should know, quintessence. We know that quintessence exists in all living things, being the source of life itself, meaning that it's part of the planet, almost like the Lifestream in Final Fantasy VII. So when living things die, the quintessence within them is released. Quintessence isn't just unique to the Elibe series, as FE4 had Claud explain the limitations of the Valkyrie staff and how quintessence is involved, but was unable to fully explain. Now this is where I explain how this relates to Naga. Dragons are said to have very large amounts of quintessence, so much that if Nergal could unleash the dragons and absorb their quintessence, he would be invincible. And in Archanea, we know that Naga is said to have been the most powerful dragon there was. And throughout the Fire Emblem franchise, her power are always held in high regard. Her fang forged into Falchion allowed her to slay the likes of the fellow Divine Dragons Duma and Mila, and even Medeus when he was an Earth Dragon and a Dark Dragon, and by Awakening, her fang could be used to put Grima to sleep. In Genealogy, her tome is able to defeat Loptyr as well. And by Awakening's time, Naga showed the ability to warp space and time, allowing her to help others travel through time, and another Naga brought people from the past to an alternate future. This ability to break the taboo is so amazing that even Anankos, a god-dragon, is in absolute awe. Naturally, this means that Naga had to have held an absolute phenomenal amount of quintessence within her body. This is where I delve even deeper. Recall how in Mount Prism, it is said that Naga's power actually runs through the very land itself, and hence why it is regarded as holy grounds. In Future Past, Tiki explains to Grima that because he defiled the land, Naga's power now focuses on another land, being Ylisstol due to housing Tiki's corpse. Get it? Naga's power is her quintessence, which has now become part of the world itself. Naga's will is so powerful that its tied to the quintessence that has become part of the planet. This is why Grima cannot kill her. Naga will always revive so long as her power remains attached to the land. Meaning that even if she's killed, sooner or later, she would actually revive herself. If you guys don't believe that she could revive herself, remember Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem. In those games, we have a character named Nagi, who is heavily implied to be Naga's reincarnation. But that can't be possible. Why? Because Tiki is the last born Manakete (Nowi doesn't count here for this conversation). Naga dies after sealing Tiki away. Well, in that case, how could Nagi be Naga's reincarnation if she would have to be born and actually be younger than Tiki? Because Nagi wasn't born the natural way. Rather Nagi is a body that was created by Naga herself for a vessel to enter the moral plane. This means that even if Grima ends the Manakete species, Naga can still return by creating a new body, but she would need time. However, this is not needed if another Manakete of sufficient power can inherit the title as well. This means the only way that Grima could have ensured that he killed Naga is to actually destroy the world itself, as then Naga's spirit would be destroyed as well. - Whew, that was a very long explanation. Let me know what you guys all think of it.
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