luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I noticed there's no section on European to American FE11 changes besides the name chart. There's some minor script changes (besides the names changing). I don't know if it should be added but I thought I'd mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I noticed there's no section on European to American FE11 changes besides the name chart. There's some minor script changes (besides the names changing). I don't know if it should be added but I thought I'd mention it. Considering Vincent's from Europe, I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) But there are many American FE fans that use this website. As well as every other FE game uses the American names don't they? Edited June 17, 2009 by luigi bros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 But there are many American FE fans that use this website. As well as every other FE game uses the American names doesn't it? Many of them also have the same names in Europe and the US. Also, I smell laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Many of them also have the same names in Europe and the US.Also, I smell laziness. What about FE7? Huh? If you mean my grammer I'll fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 No, I mean... By that logic, shouldn't the FE1 section be updated to have the Shadow Dragon names? As well as the FE3 section, sans the Book 2 exclusive names? Those maintain the fan-translated names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 No, I mean...By that logic, shouldn't the FE1 section be updated to have the Shadow Dragon names? As well as the FE3 section, sans the Book 2 exclusive names? Those maintain the fan-translated names. No. Those are the FE1 and 3 names. I don't see how this is related. I'm just saying that I think that it should be mentioned that there are some script changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 No. Those are the FE1 and 3 names. I don't see how this is related. I'm just saying that I think that it should be mentioned that there are some script changes. It is related. It's not like the names changed in the Japanese versions. Meanwhile, there's inconsistency between the Fan-translation, the American Shadow Dragon and European Shadow Dragon. By your logic, most people who visit are American, so the FE1/FE3 section should be fixed to have the same names. Plus, IMO, this seems like a superficial add on when there are still incomplete/missing sections on the site. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 It's not like the names changed in the Japanese versions. Meanwhile, there's inconsistency between the Fan-translation, the American Shadow Dragon and European Shadow Dragon.By your logic, most people who visit are American, so the FE1/FE3 section should be fixed to have the same names. Plus, IMO, this seems like a superficial add on when there are still incomplete/missing sections on the site. >.> Like I said those are their FE1 and 3 names. Those aren't their FE11 names though. And I'm not talking about names. I know there's more important things. I justthought I should mention it. It's also going to be increadibly small. (I've only seen two, but I haven't gotten every event in the Event Recap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Like I said those are their FE1 and 3 names. Those aren't their FE11 names though. And I'm not talking about names.I know there's more important things. I justthought I should mention it. It's also going to be increadibly small. (I've only seen two, but I haven't gotten every event in the Event Recap. FE1 and FE3 names = FE Shadow Dragon names though in Japanese. Seeing as most people are American, those versions should take precedence. Shouldn't they? Just like how the American names should take precedence over the European names? That's how it seems to me. Also, names are part of the translation. That's what I'm talking about. I've added my two cents. I'm not debating this further. It's up to VASM after all. Edited June 17, 2009 by NoNameAtAll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 FE1 and FE3 names = FE Shadow Dragon names though in Japanese.Seeing as most people are American, those versions should take precedence. Shouldn't they? Just like how the American names should take precedence over the European names? That's how it seems to me. Also, names are part of the translation. That's what I'm talking about. Again, those are their names in those games. If they remake FE3 it'll have European/American names. I never said most people are American. I never said I had a problem with the site using European names. I'm saying that there are some script changes. Can we stop argueing and leave it up to VincentASM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) As far as I can see, the script changes are really really minor. The most notable change I've seen is Medeus's threat during Chapter 24. I might include them later (although, most likely not), but for now I don't think many people are bothered. Here's some from up to around Chapter 10 anyway: NA EU But, Princess... I betrayed you! But Princess... I betrayed you! Rumor has it the knights of Altea are at the foot of the mountain. We won't get a better chance than this. Rumor has it the knights of Altea are at the foot of the mountain. We won't get a better chance. All right, all right, I guess what I'm tryin' to say is- OK OK, I guess what I'm tryin' to say is- General Bentheon, who guards the castle, was carrying a ridersbane last I saw. General Bentheon who guards the castle was carrying a ridersbane last I saw. I wonder... I'll bet you haven't... You'll find Captain Hardin at a fortress in northern Aurelis, protecting the king and the lady Nyna. You'll find Captain Hardin protecting the king and the lady Nyna at the Northern Fortress, located in Aurelis. Hooey, let me tell you what a shock THAT was! Cripes, let me tell you what a shock THAT was! Ah, but only a thief could get inside chests locked that tight... Ah, but only a thief could get inside chests locked that tight.... Marth... Please, pick up this banner where I have dropped it. Marth... Please, pick up this banner where I have let it fall. Your little sister, Maria, is still our ward, is she not? Your little sister Maria is still our ward, is she not? It was then, in that darkest hour, that a young man named Anri appeared and rose against the Shadow Dragon. It was then, in that darkest hour, that a young man named Anri appeared, and rose against the Shadow Dragon. I will avenge him and bring light back into our world. I will avenge him, and bring light back into our world. (Plus more added/redmoved commas) Foolhardy human- defying a Manakete! Foolhardy humans, defying a Manakete king! What...? Slain, by this fangless coward...? What...? Slain, by this fangless coward and his minions? Dolunain Dolhrin She doesn't seem like the bad sort. She doesn't seem like a bad sort. Edited June 18, 2009 by VincentASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 As far as I can see, the script changes are really really minor. The most notable change I've seen is Medeus's threat during Chapter 24.I might include them later (although, most likely not), but for now I don't think many people are bothered. Here's some from up to around Chapter 10 anyway: NA EU But, Princess... I betrayed you! But Princess... I betrayed you! Rumor has it the knights of Altea are at the foot of the mountain. We won't get a better chance than this. Rumor has it the knights of Altea are at the foot of the mountain. We won't get a better chance. All right, all right, I guess what I'm tryin' to say is- OK OK, I guess what I'm tryin' to say is- General Bentheon, who guards the castle, was carrying a ridersbane last I saw. General Bentheon who guards the castle was carrying a ridersbane last I saw. I wonder... I'll bet you haven't... You'll find Captain Hardin at a fortress in northern Aurelis, protecting the king and the lady Nyna. You'll find Captain Hardin protecting the king and the lady Nyna at the Northern Fortress, located in Aurelis. Hooey, let me tell you what a shock THAT was! Cripes, let me tell you what a shock THAT was! Ah, but only a thief could get inside chests locked that tight... Ah, but only a thief could get inside chests locked that tight.... Marth... Please, pick up this banner where I have dropped it. Marth... Please, pick up this banner where I have let it fall. Your little sister, Maria, is still our ward, is she not? Your little sister Maria is still our ward, is she not? It was then, in that darkest hour, that a young man named Anri appeared and rose against the Shadow Dragon. It was then, in that darkest hour, that a young man named Anri appeared, and rose against the Shadow Dragon. I will avenge him and bring light back into our world. I will avenge him, and bring light back into our world. (Plus more added/redmoved commas) Foolhardy human- defying a Manakete! Foolhardy humans, defying a Manakete king! What...? Slain, by this fangless coward...? What...? Slain, by this fangless coward and his minions? Dolunain Dolhrin She doesn't seem like the bad sort. She doesn't seem like a bad sort. What are all those "" symbols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 They're just random symbols that I forgot to remove. I got the lines from the game script, which has all these random symbols floating around (dialogue control codes and etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 I don't need to make a new topic for this. I'll use this one. In FE7 it never mentions Merlinus can use the Afa's Drops since he has a rank quote. But Merlinus can't use items. He can use it by holding on to it till the end. I'm not sure but he always appears and I have him hold it and forget to use it. Should that be mentioned it the Hints and Secrets page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Merlinus is the default. If you don't use the drops, he shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reganis Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Merlinus is the default. If you don't use the drops, he shows up. i heard it was Marcus for Eliwood mode and Oswin for Hector mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 I always keep forgetting whether Marcus or Merlinus is the default for Eliwood's story. I don't feel like checking it right now either : P Anyway, Merlinus can use the Afa's Drops. I forgot how exactly, but I seem to recall you need to make him use the List option from Battle Preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) I got the lines from the game script, which has all these random symbols floating around (dialogue control codes and etc.). No wonder some of the Sacred Stones support convos have symbols in them. Edited June 21, 2009 by Joshybear25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 I think it depends on your browser. I don't see any when I'm using Firefox. I rarely double check pages using multiple browsers : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 Merlinus is the default. If you don't use the drops, he shows up. No. It's Marcus or Oswin based on which story. i heard it was Marcus for Eliwood mode and Oswin for Hector mode... That's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I think it depends on your browser. I don't see any when I'm using Firefox. Oh. For some reason it shows on my Internet but not on Safari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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