Jump to content

Life

Member
  • Posts

    3,829
  • Joined

Posts posted by Life

  1. Few notes about the tier list upon entering Kolima Forest.

    - Page doesn't come online until Level 8 when Garet learns Volcano. This is actually kind of significant because that means that until that point, Garet's only usable class outside of boss battles is Guard (this is going to be deep into Tret Tree since I only hit Level 6 upon entering Kolima). Since there is almost no point in the game that Medium is useful, this moves Guard above it easily. I'll have to play more to see if Guard moves up past that but I'm really not convinced that it isn't a shitty class. Guard moves above Medium.

    - The reason why Page isn't moving down a tier is because of the other half of the class: Apprentice. Gaia comes at Level 6 and give Isaac the one stat he actually cares about early in the game: PP. The difference between Knight!Isaac and Apprentice!Isaac is a 25% increase in PP along with a stronger move (Gaia has 5 more Dam than Earthquake and hits 3 enemies as opposed to Spire hitting 1 even though Spire costs less PP). Even when you consider that Knight!Isaac has better stat increases until you find Breeze in Tret Tree along with Cure, clearing enemies with less pain is so much more valuable in Kolima Forest. Apprentice/Page stays in Chuck Norris Tier.

    - I'm going to be testing out a lot of classes on this run with a few notables that I really want to learn about. Specifically Seer!Ivan. Like Apprentice, it also becomes viable at Level 6 with Flash Bolt (it's not totally shit before that but not as good as Wind Seer prior) and once you hit Kolima, there are no more negative stat boosts (Wind Seer needs 4 Jupiter to say the same and that's not until Lamarkan Desert). Seer!Ivan's psynergy is also on the OK side of things (Growth, Bolt, Cure, Revive and Bind for situational use) but it will be lacking some midgame power before Blue Bolt comes at Level 22. I am currently going to move it up for now because Enchanter!Ivan requires 6 Venus or Mars (both relatively contested elements in large quantities) but the lack of Impact might mean that it drops in the future. We'll see, though. Seer moves above Enchanter.

    - Djinn are great for single target battles but next to useless if you're facing 3 or more enemies. Even Diviner!Ivan does acceptable-ish damage with Flint if he has a decent weapon (unfortunately, I don't have the Magic Rod for Murk and the Bandit's Sword's unleash is the only one with a Mult Mod instead of an Add Mod which sucks for Ivan).

  2. Right. Bandit and 2x Thief in Vault.

    The biggest issue with this one is levels. Ivan joins at level 4 but you won't get Isaac or Garet there without grinding. And level 4 unlocks Earthquake for Squire!Isaac (23 Dam increase over Quake) and Fire for Guard!Garet (20 Dam increase on Flare). Flint is the only available Djinn so he'll be constantly used and summoned. So, we're going with Isaac and Garet both at level 3 since level 4 is overkill and they should only be level 4 by the time I start Goma Cave.
     

     

    Bandit:

    244 HP, 8 Def, 72 Resist

    Thief (x2):
    110 HP, 5 Def, 72 Resist

    Squire!Isaac (Flint):
    42 Att, 22 Agi, 104 Earth Power

    Guard!Garet:

    46 Att, 18 Agi, 81 Earth Power, 104 Fire Power

    Wind Seer!Ivan:

    104 Wind Power

    
    Flint:
    
    Isaac RA = 49, Isaac RP = 32, Flint Mult Mod = 1.6
    = 39.2 Base
    PMultiplier = 1 + RP/400 = 1.08
    = 42~45 Damage
    
    Venus:
    
    Isaac RP = 32
    Base Damage = 30 + (0.03*244)
    = 37.32 Base
    PMultiplier = 1 + RP/200 = 1.16
    = 42~45 Damage
    
    Quake:
    
    Isaac RP = 32 + 10
    = 14~17 Damage
    
    Flare (x2 attacks):
    
    Garet RP = 32
    = 17~20 Damage (x2)
    = 34 Damage
    
    Ray (x2 attacks):
    
    Ivan RP = 32
    = 40~43 Damage (x3)
    = 120 Damage



    What's annoying about this is that if Garet had Fire at level 3 rather than level 4, this becomes a 2 turn kill with 1 HP to spare (the team would do 245 damage in two turns assuming only a level up for Garet and not Isaac). Rather, it's a 3 turn because I simply just don't have the power, even if Garet goes Brute rather than Guard. Grinding is literally the difference here and fuck that. Also, I didn't calculate damage for the 2x Thief because Venus will hit all three of them without a damage reduction (changes in damage are based off of enemy max HP) and they should be dead after that and eating a Flare and 2x Ray.

    For the record, Isaac's Att is as high as possible thanks to the Battle Axe that I bought for him before the battle. I'm trying to think out every single angle to this stuff. Only elemental levels matter for Garet and Ivan and both of those are at base here.

    Also, decimals round down.

    Bandit + 2x Thief = 3 Turns

  3. Here are a few references:

    Boss baselines as of Fall 2010
    TFerguson's Guide on Golden Sun Mechanics

    And I'm clearing Sol Sanctum now. I'll list any revised baselines in this post and have references to later posts in the topic about strategies and whatnots.

    Oh and no summon rushes. They were bullshit 8 years ago and they still are bullshit today. All Djinn must start a boss battle on Set.

     

    Bosses:
    Bandit + 2x Thief - 3 Turns

  4. I've been bored for a while so I figured I'd go back to Golden Sun. If anyone searches the forum, they can find the old Class Tier List where I listed baselines for how quickly you can beat bosses without a summon rush. Gonna see if I can figure out RNG proof strategies (which is easy to do with the formulae and a proper understanding of how the classes work) for all the bosses in this game and the next one. It should be easier now doing at age 27 than 19 since I should be more open to finding new strategies.

    I'm not going to narrate the plot, everyone knows it if they've picked up the game. But the battle system was built quite brilliantly and I plan to break it like usual.

    Anyway, here's the tier list with a few modifications that I'll explain. Only GS1 classes are listed, I'll add in GS2 classes when I get there. Also, here's my original post on the matter, going back 8 years.

    I am Chuck Norris tier:

    Hermit

    White Mage

    Ninja

    Apprentice/Page

    Call me... Batman tier:

    Cavalier (Mia)

    Samurai

    Dragoon

    Brute

    Ascetic (Garet)

    Welcome to the Joe Schmo Show tier:

    Seer

    Enchanter (Ivan)

    Swordsman

    Pilgrim

    Ranger

    Squire

    God, you suck tier:

    Wind Seer

    Shaman (Isaac)

    Guard

    Medium

    Water Seer

    Princess Peach Tier:

    Flame User

  5. Regarding the claims that I did not explain how to get rid of gender/identity politics, none of you were listening. So let me explain in bold.

    Stop assuming that if you are part of X identity group (woman/black/whatever) that you think or SHOULD think the exact same thing. You need to look at the fact that the smallest minority is the individual who has their own desires, goals and flaws.

    9 hours ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:

    I've watched all 4 videos. These people are behaving like fools who are becoming Russian tools and it's no wonder the Republicans and Alt-right love this so-called movement, it's free ammo "from the other side".

    I was going to take you seriously but then I actually read the first paragraph and this popped to mind. And I really can't take anyone here seriously anymore.

    You guys are so far down the rabbit-hole. Well, when it turns on you, I'm just going to laugh and say "told you so".

     

    DZ0BC9zU0AEilvy.jpg

  6. 9 hours ago, Time the Crestfallen said:

    So as I said, your plan for the Democratic party is them only caring about straight white men and telling literally everyone else to get fucked.

    Whether you choose to believe it or not, gender and race politics are relevant topics of discussion in politics and society at large regardless of whether you personally care for them, especially when you consider that despite constantly throwing a strop over it, Republicans and Conservative media personalities very frequently engage in their own brand of gender and race politics.

    The Democrats moving towards more progressive policy is occurring in tandem with demands for more progressive policy from it's voting base. You say this as if the Democrats have just arbitrarily decided to become more left-wing apropos-of-nothing, which is ludicrous.

    Even if I were to accept that 'contempt for people' is what got the Democrats in a bind, I fail to see how snubbing women and minority populations (as you infer they should) isn't an act of contempt of people, other than the fact that it's contemptuous in a way that you don't care about.

    This is the exact problem. You are not listening to me and creating a strawman.

    Nobody is saying that we should enslave women and minorities. But stop viewing these people as a monolith with no agency of their own.

    Let me give you a great example.

    If you spend years developing a narrative that minorities are victims, what happens when two sets of minorities end up having issues with each other, especially when both are seeking power by claiming to be more oppressed? The Economist wrote a fantastic article about this where the author flat out claimed that "trans rights should not come at the cost of women's fragile gains". But that is what is going on here. If transgenders are more oppressed than women, then is it sensible to oppress women so that transgenders can get what they want?

    What about quotas? If the claim is that "straight white men" are privileged and over-represented in top companies, what does that mean for Jews and Asians? Surely they are over-represented in these companies and we should make way for the under-represented... if you OK with not hiring or even firing people for being born Jewish/Asian. And this already happens to Asians regarding college acceptance. Hell, just read this paragraph from this article.

    "One of Mr. Blum’s landmark cases was a lawsuit by Abigail Fisher, a white applicant who said she was denied admission to the University of Texas at Austin because of her race. The United States Supreme Court ruled 4-3 in favor of the university in 2016, saying that it is constitutional to use race as one of many factors in admissions decisions."

    Assuming that you agree with the Supreme Court here, you should also be in favour of "white only universities" under the same logic that it is acceptable to for a university to take race into consideration (as Affirmative Action does). Which is a TERRIBLE idea but if you care about being coherent, you would support it.

    You all should stop looking at people as part of a monolith and rather as individuals with individual desires, wants and most importantly, flaws. Otherwise, you will back yourself into a corner where you have to justify oppressing one group of people to "correct injustices".

    For the record, this is not just my opinion. Have a look for yourself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTq-hkR-yAc - August 6, 2018

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOjcQnizz4 - July 12, 2018

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQccCGYJvAA - July 10, 2018

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1x80Tr0_ds

    These are minorities who are saying that the Democratic Party not only doesn't respect their views but will just about treat them as race traitors because of it. And it's not hard to find this stuff.

     

  7. On ‎8‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:39 AM, Lord Raven said:

    From what I've seen, he's not any better or worse. I would say his playstyle imitated 2016/early 2017 Flacco a lot. and Flacco had a bad back and recovering from an ACL tear in those seasons.

    He doesn't throw many picks; he doesn't throw downfield nearly enough. He was completely flaccid in the playoffs, and wasn't impressive with his 2016 receiving corps who later went off with Goff the next year.

    Also McCarron broke his collarbone, jesus.

    McCarron wasn't going to win the starting job. 95% certain this is Peterman's now. He even managed to score with the training squad guys but that was a blown coverage so... yeah.

    Allen's arm is electric, though.

  8. None of you understand.

    Get rid of gender and race politics. Blacks (as an example) are starting to walk away from the Democratic Party in numbers unseen before (black vote for Democrats has been 70%+ since the 1930s and as high as 90% most of the time). Meanwhile, the Democratic Party wants to push farther towards Progressivism which involves the micro-control of people's lives and people are fed up with this. It really doesn't help when the base of your party acts as if they are anti-white and anti-capitalism and you decide that this is a good idea.

    What you should do is to stop pretending that you have the moral high ground all the time and stop talking down to people. This has been happening for years. Just check out the absolute contempt people from the coast have for middle America.

    Feel free to ignore me with contempt but it might be important to note that contempt for people is exactly what put the Democratic Party in this situation. 

  9. 1 minute ago, Lord Raven said:

    Fuck that, they have to deal with captain checkdown at QB and captain dumbass at coach...  though Tyrod may try to test deep now that he has 2 gigantic receivers and landry in the slot.

    Still, I really have no faith in the Browns if Hue Jackson and Todd Haley are on the team. Todd Haley's abrasiveness mixed with Hue Jackson having no clue what the fucks going on is gonna be a bad combination.

    Since Flutie, I had 17 years of Captain Checkdowns. Trust me, Tyrod isn't as bad as guys like Trent Edwards or JP Losman.

  10. 17 minutes ago, Slumber said:

    Reminder that the Browns nearly beat the Steelers in the preseason last year, and won all of their other games, the first of which was against THE SAINTS. 

    The Browns, like the toddlers they are, will tire themselves out before the regular season starts. 

    Dude, you don't understand.

    Tyrod Taylor
    Carlos Hyde

    Jarvis Landry

    Josh Gordon (if he comes back)

    A slew of promising WRs especially Calloway (if he can keep his shit together)

    Offensively, this team can move the ball. Not on us because we're keeping the first team out so that Edmunds can learn how to command this defense (and he is a physical BEAST). But don't underrate this team. This is not the same squad as last year's.

    EDIT: HOLY SHIT!

    Marcus Murphy just froze everyone with a stutter step and almost hit the promised land 30 yards out because of it. Shady, this kid's coming for your job.

  11. Holy shit, this Cleveland squad actually has an offense. New look for them.

    McCarron didn't look bad on his first series but honestly, I think this is Peterman's job to lose. And I get to see Peterman all 2nd half against 3rd stringers so I want to see what he can really do.

    WR battle is starting to get hilarious for WR#2 (considering that Kelvin is a weak #1). Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Corey Coleman... this WR corps isn't that bad this year.

  12. Just now, Dr. Tarrasque said:

    I've mentioned weeks earlier in the thread that I'd want to see Trump executed for treason and I was called out on it because there was "no evidence that he's committed treason yet". They weren't wrong, nothing had really happened at the time to implicate him as a traitor but his behavior whenever Russia was a subject of discussion suggested that he would eventually be found guilty of it either because he was compromised or he's been a willing puppet for a number of years now.

    There's a number of people besides Trump that the country could do without (either via death or removed from power), to name a few:

    Mitch McConnell

    Paul Ryan

    Sean Hannity

    Wayne LaPierre

    The Koch Brothers

    Stephen Miller

     

    They may be the leaders on the side that's more willing to govern for the people but holy shit are they weak and lacking in resolve to do that.

    These people should be executed?

    Do it yourself. You can declare yourself to be judge, jury and executioner. And if you don't try, you're nothing more than a coward for saying "I want them executed but I don't have the balls to even attempt to assassinate them myself". And before someone tried to turn that around on me for what I've said in the past, remember that I've actually fought in standing wars.

    You don't get to wish death on someone else but not be willing to follow through with it yourself. That just makes you weak.

  13. The way you guys talk about Trump makes me want to know where the Coca-Cola Death Squads are. I've been expecting them for 2 years and I'm disappointed.

    But don't let anyone, left or right, change your constitution. That shit needs to stay as it is. And I'm saying that after the Nationality Bill just passed here in Israel where non-Jews now definitively have less rights than Jews here and I'm waiting for my turn to go to jail.

×
×
  • Create New...