Melaine

These are all for normal C supports. At first I did not keep as careful track as I did later, so I don't have the pairings I used to find out some of them. For these I replayed the same challenge maps several times. None of the units had any support points with anyone aside from their partner. When units supported with more than one partner, supports that should have been unlocked were not. I did not keep track of the actions for these tests, so they assume I got the points right.

Alright~ It'd be great if there is a more effective solution somehow. ^^ Admittedly I tend towards trying to solve math stuff my own way instead of looking for instructions, and I'm a bit out of practise, so I guess it's not impossible. It's a lot of notes though, and they are in a bit of a mess at the moment, but I'll post them as soon as I've tidied them up a bit.

GoXDS: Yes, I am positive it is not the same as in Awakening, and I agree it is awfully complex. There were lots of things that confused me, but I can provide data from the tests I did in case anyone wants to double check?

Happy to help! ^^ tintinfrost: Hmm, this may not be a very satisfying answer, but patience, I guess? I'm not in much of a hurry when I play... ^^' But it's the kind of task I'd do while waiting for replies to skype roleplays or to keep me awake but not too distracted while studying. I've mostly found Seeds of Trust at event tiles or from item finds in the castle, so I guess it's really up to luck. Being a slow player helps with that too, since I get quite a lot of chances that way. Thanks for the suggestions, anyhow! c:

Hello, tintinfrost! Thank you for your question, I'll do my best to clear up any confusion. c: First of all, the limits do not actually apply until after you clear the map. So using your example: Unit A and Unit B kill 6 enemies, gaining 36 points and reaching their limit with each other. They now have 22 points left. However, if they gain more than 22 points with Unit C, say 28 points, Units A+B will not gain 36 points with each other, but 30. Then those 30 points are rounded back to 36. Units A+C keep their 28 points, but then they are rounded down to 24. Simplified: A+B gained 36 points and kept 30 which were rounded to 36. A+C gained 28 points and kept 28 which were rounded to 24. We can also add Unit D with Unit A, let's say they gained 14 points. In this case, Units A+C will not keep their 28 points, but only 18. Since those 18 points are still rounded to 24, in the end it makes no difference. Simplified: A+B gained 36 points and kept 30 which were rounded to 36. A+C gained 28 points and kept 18 which were rounded to 24. A+D gained 14 points and kept 10 which were rounded to 12. So although Unit A earned 78 points total, only 58 of those points actually counted, but because of how those 58 points were rounded, in the end 72 points were gained. As for the scenario where you have earned 36 points in one map, and then gain 6 points on the next, that certainly had me puzzled for a while. But it's how the points are rounded, again. If you gain anything less than 8 points, you gain nothing. So those 6 points, even though they should be enough to put you at 42, are being rounded right back down to 0 before being added to your 36 points. And you are correct, aside from using Seeds of Trust there is no way to unlock B to S supports in a single map. Knowing how the points are being divided can help you be more effective about it nonetheless. Since you only need to gather 58 points to get 36+24+12, if you know what you're doing each unit can gain an additional 14 points for free once they're rounded. ^.~ Hope this helps!

Wow, haha~ I have a sister too, but I'd be just as surprised if I found her here. Nice to meet you! Truth to tell I didn't play Awakening until quite recently (played more Pokémon for a while) but I'm very glad that I did. I enjoyed it a lot; it's easy to see why everyone loves it~ ^^

Hello! I've been doing a bit of testing, and I believe I've finally figured out how earning support points works. Since I couldn't find this information on Serenes Forest yet I thought I'd share my findings. ^^ Points required to unlock support: Normal C = 30 B = 40 A = 40 S = 60 Fast C = 20 B = 30 A = 40 S = 60 Points gained by various actions: Tag Team/Pair Up +6 Dual Attack/Dual Support +2 Adjacent/Staff/Sing +4 Seed of Trust/My Castle +12 After each map, points are rounded as follows: 0-6 --> 0 8 --> 8 10-16 --> 12 18-28 --> 24 30-36 --> 36 Points are rounded both before and after being added to previously earned points. If you earn 8+8 on two maps, you'll end up with 12 points, not 16. There are two different limits to how many points can be earned on a single map: Pair of units: 36 Single unit: 58 Seeds of Trust are not subject to limits. If a single unit earns more than 58 points on a map, the points will be divided: Support 1: 30 points (rounded to 36) Support 2: 28 points (rounded to 24) if no third support exists 18 points (rounded to 24) if a third support exists Support 3: 10 points (rounded to 12) Support 4: 0 points Priority is determined by which pair scored the highest points. In case of a tie, the unit higher up on the support list gains priority. If two units compete over another, one of them may end up not unlocking any support at all. Example: Hana x Silas C: 30 points, support unlocked Kagero x Silas C: 30 points, no support because Silas already had his 30 points with Hana Kagero x Azama C: 30 points, no support because Silas has priority over Azama Some additional notes: Follow-Up attacks do not give more points than a single attack. Even if Dual Support activates twice in one battle, the points earned are still +2. "My Castle" includes the Private Quarters, Conversations, and giving Accessories. (Edit: Noticed I made a mistake when 8 points are gained. Hopefully I got it right this time.) (Edit 2: Added information about the point limit for single units.) (Edit 3: Fixed a sentence that may have been more confusing than it needed to be.)

Hello, everyone~ I've been lurking around for some time, thinking of becoming a member and now I finally did. ^^ As for many others my experience with Fire Emblem began with Blazing Sword, and since then I've played Sacred Stones, Genealogy of Holy War, Shadow Dragon, New Mystery of the Emblem, Awakening, and currently Fates. I've also been roleplaying Fates with a friend since before it was released outside of Japan, improvising everything beyond trailers and character introductions, and Melaine is the name of my villainous Corrin. My real name is Miriam. I also want to say that I appreciate Serenes Forest a lot. Thank you for all the work you do! I hope that maybe I can help out a little too.