Mikethemaster
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12 hours ago, Harvey said:
I don't get why UK even has this chart thing and doesn't reveal sales like US does. Its just pointless to have a chart do all the performance thing. Just reveal the sales figures already.
They said it sold about birthright number but I really don't know how well birthright did. Maybe like 100k or 130k. Since Eroupe not to big on rpg or anime like games, well I wouldn't say not into then more they sale really niche number like 20k or less.
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13 minutes ago, escotanner said:
I don't know about America, but in Europe, it placed first in the most 3ds games bought so far: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/fire_emblem_echoes_shadows_of_valentia_enjoys_a_reasonable_debut_in_uk_charts
That's good but from what I heard Fire Emblem games usual fall off pretty quickly in Eruope game charts. Fates was 1st in it first week but drop pretty hard the week.
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I just want to know how the overall sales. I know the reviews were mix to mostly good but what about the sales. Nintendo usually like to brag about sales with their titles last year fate sold like 400k and Nintendo brag about that. Echoes not so much. So does anyone know the sales numbers yet.
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3 minutes ago, Thane said:
I'm fairly sure he is. I believe on the Japanese Awakening website, Virion says Walhart is what Alm might've become without Celica (something that seems unlikely given Echoes, but hey, Awakening!Alm was very different).
Gaiden/Echoes end game spoilers:Thank goodness for that. One of the cool things about Walhart is how he started off with nothing - even less than most lords in the series - yet conquered everything in spite of that.
Pff, yeah, if everyone's just going to start fighting in 2000 years again, why even bother, am I right?
Well I guess 2000 years enough of a wait. lol. But I wounder what Mila thinks look at how Walhart is if he from Valm. I mean Duma probably be having an orgasiam the way walhart is.
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Oh okay my bad sorry for this.
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51 minutes ago, r_n said:
Because having any stupid fun with this series is apparently a train to ruined forever judging by the reaction to the spring banner
I forget, was spring festival the "new" banner that replaced the previous one, or did it start concurrently? I have about 56 orbs and I'm debating saving them for this or not. Really want the celica mages but mannnn what if the wedding guys are really swank or have a flying mage.
Save them your wifu might be in the banner or husbandos is in it.
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I was just thinking even though Alm and Celica bring the gap between the two kingdom together, their whatever how many grandson pretty much says fuck peace, and go out war mechanic on the neighboring country. Even though it was for a good cause, Walhart should have talk thing through with Chrom and they could save a lot of time. Sad to see the peace they obtain amounts to pretty much nothing in 2000 years.
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12 minutes ago, Slumber said:
August says Leif needs help, and that's a big part of Leif's arc, but Leif already gets a shit ton of support, and a good portion of the early game development is the world shitting on Leif. Just as he gets his liberation force off the ground, he gets captured by his grandfather's friend, who turns out to be the person who suggested that Trabant murder Quan and Ethlin, and take Altenna for her ability to use the Gae Bolg. Then, his mother figure gets turned to stone before his very eyes, and he spends several chapters on the run from Manster, Thracia and/or the Lopto Sect, which all leads up to Dorias (The OTHER tactician Leif has that people always forget about) sacrificing himself. It isn't until about a third of the way through the game where Leif gets his footing and starts developing more into the leader he eventually becomes, and this comes from several places that existed independently from Leif, like allies from within Thracia, Lopto defectors, and Manster defectors. As weird as it is now that I think about it, people who Leif has known for his entire life have very little impact on his growth.
So at this point, what place would there be for an Avatar in FE5? The only thing that makes any sense, considering this, would be for them to take August's place, which more or less brings us right back to Kris territory.
And the smaller scale is precisely why an Avatar wouldn't work. Like. The whole point of the game is Leif becoming the man his father wanted to be. Quan wanted to unite the Thracian peninsula and thrive in peace. Leif's accomplishments in liberating Manster, his father's kingdom, are intrinsically tied to his character. Everything an Avatar could do to take away from his accomplishments would be just as bad, or even worse, than what Kris did in FE12. The things Kris did in FE12 weren't usually personally tied to the characters he took from. You can say he mostly stole the spotlight for most of it. There's nothing you could do like that in FE5 that wouldn't be directly taking away from Leif's growth.
Unless you simply wanted the Avatar to take the credit for every victory Leif has over bandits, but at that point, why would you even want a self-insert character if they were just the designated bandit-squasher?
Plus, on the meta-level, the events of FE5 lead straight into FE4. Would it not be super weird for Leif to have this super trusted confidant battle-buddy who helped him liberate his country, but then doesn't get represented at all in FE4 when Leif shows up in chapter 7?
I mean, that does work to some degree, but it goes back to the whole Robin kind of deal, where your self-insert is a great tactician who is solely responsible and constantly praised for the victories of the main protagonists? And how does this work across gen 1 and gen 2? Is the gen 2 self-insert child ALSO a great strategist who does everything and gets constant praise for all of these brilliant strategies?
Plus, Oifey's already a thing and people like him. Don't you think it'd make more sense, be more loyal to the source material, and give the story more integrity if, you... I dunno... expanded his character instead and actually gave him more lines that made him seem like more of a tactician? Instead of introducing a new character that takes away from Oifey's role and invalidates any reason for Oifey to be part of gen 1? I don't see how an Avatar wouldn't be directly taking away from Oifey and his importance to the game, especially in gen 2.
A large part of gen 1 is also how Sigurd's impulsive actions actually had dire consequences. It's the one case in the series where a lord's impulsiveness and desire to help his friends actually ends up getting him and most of his friends killed. Sigurd isn't supposed to be a tactician, and Oifey's a young squire who really can only offer suggestions.
You'd lose this if the game somehow spun this into an Avatar's responsibility. Instead, it'd now be "Good job player, your Avatar just got Sigurd burnt to a crisp. All of these orphans are on your hands.".
Again, why wouldn't you rather just have the roles of Oifey and Shanan expanded, rather than add in another person responsible for making sure Seliph doesn't fuck it all up? Plus, Oifey and Shanan already have a third amigo: Levin. Seliph doesn't need a FOURTH advisor/mentor/tactician.
I actually think it's because pairing already exists that might make FE4 Avatar-free. If you look at reviews for SoV, most reviewers seem to begrudge that the game doesn't have pairing and children. I haven't seen one cause a stink about not being able to self-insert.
FE4 already having children and pairing probably gives it more room to not include OTHER mechanics that people think Awakening added to the franchise.
Well your passionate about thracia 776 aren't you which is understandable since it your favorite game. I personally like Mercenary Avatar if they do implant one into other remakes
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7 minutes ago, Doof said:
Well...
Robin is the one thing preventing the big bad from reviving, and the TRUE villain's plot revolves around Robin entirely. Literally the reason Lucina and the kids came back from the future was to prevent Grima from resurrecting and that meant killing the thing that would become Grima, a.k.a Robin
Robin is credited for all victories due to his plans.
Robin is the only one who can truly bring peace to Ylisse because only him/her can kill Grima for good. Chrom gets the chump choice and he can only put Grima to sleep. Killing the evil dragon god for good is far more spotlight worthy than sealing the evil dragon god for 1000 years.
And even though that choice means giving up his life, Robin STILL gets to revive anyway so basically he saved the world at no loss.
Chrom is the protagonist, sure, but the important feats go to Robin. Hell, even Lucina, who came back to save the future, gets her spotlight stolen because Robin is the one that kills the dragon (or Chrom).
I love Robin (and Chrom), but he sure is VERY important, if not the most important character in Awakening, since the story revolves around him.
1. True
2. Well he is the brains of the group the group even points out that Chrom is not the most smartest leader
3. True
4. the only important thing Robin do is kill Grima and that is a chose and not forced. I guess yiu could say him being the big bad is important
but eh.
5. Me too but I still stand by they both move the plot.
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39 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:
I don't really know what you're trying to say, but if you're saying what I think you are then FE7 was written so that past Lyn's mode the avatar didn't need to exist. They don't interfere with the main story (because Lyn's mode feels more like a prologue than all too connected with Eliwood's and Hector's stories). A game where the avatar is written to be part of the main story has shown that they cannot resist worshipping the avatar past what should be reasonable.
To return to the FE9 example, Soren is basically FE13's Robin in that they're both brilliant tacticians who lead their lord to victory. But Robin gets far more credit than Soren ever got from the other characters and the narrative itself. Chrom's essentially portrayed as a chump who couldn't have accomplished anything without Robin while Ike is remembered for being a hero who could bring people together in a way Soren didn't have the personality for. Chrom's nothing special, whereas the actual special thing about Ike is his brutal honesty and fairness in a world where racism ran rampant, not so much his strength. In a way, FE13 doesn't let Chrom have anything special about him because Robin has to be the center of attention, the true snowflake.
Sorry about that, I was talking about the part when you said there was 7 games when IS try the avatar but there are only 6 total with the avatar. there is 7, 12, 13, Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations. I don't see Robin taking credit from chrom they share the spotlight they both get credit for the action they do, I mean the game give you a chose over who get to kill grima well kill grima in Chrom case is to just put him to sleep for 1000 years. I don't get this whole Robin steals chrom spotlight, I get the disdain for the MU on this forum sometime but I really don't see Robin taking Chrom spotlight at all. Chrom is the protagonist while Robin is the 2nd protagonist. Spotlight stealing is when Kira took over as MC over Shinn in gundam seed Destiny
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11 minutes ago, Doof said:
I'm sorry, but... your first game was Awakening, right? If you had played any of the Fire Emblem games before it, you'd know this isn't the truth. Fire Emblem games change so much between entries, saying they don't do changes is a blatant lie.
Don't take it too hard, dude. Not saying that some of the users aren't so bitter they bite back without remorse, but you were pretty rude yourself so it was only natural for people to act like that. I guarantee Reddit would rip you a new one too if you had pulled a similar stunt there.
No it my favorite game out of the fire emblem that I played I have played all the gba games finish 7-8 I play the ds fire emblem games I played Fates too. I plan to play Echoes whenever I get a job again and get my first pay check. All those game core mechanic was the same except 11 no triangle I am talking about before 15 came out. Yeah I probably was out of line but I get heated when people just out right dismiss a feature so harshly that I love. the class changes do up tiers from 2 to 3 and then back to 2 tiers again. Class change been back in since what 8.
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1 minute ago, Koumal8 said:
Yeah, who cares about being taken seriously when they are talking, only weird people do! We are not here to talk, we are here because oh my gosh look at this keyboard here it would be a waste not to press some random buttons! At least now I understand how you can give your controversial opinion on a delicate subject without even having played FE4. Also, Conquest is easily in my top 3 FE games, and I love Birthright as well so stop assuming stuff. Now.
Many of us are of the opinion that a MU would ruin quite a few old FE games (but not all of them as I stated previously) and you have yet to prove us wrong.
Well I guess I haven't I yield you win. I guess this proves one thing fire emblem to some extent is pretty bad with changes to a franchise. I think reddit is a little better than here.
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15 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said:
You made an assumption about me.
Do your research by using the search function on the forum.
And fix your run on sentences if you want to be taken seriously on this forum. Your generalization of "oh man you guys can't have any fun" shows you haven't even put any coherent thought into how your suggestion is good or bad for a narrative.
Who give a hell about be taken seriously on a free forum. Can't help myself with my autism when it comes to mine run on sentences. Well imo it seem like every time a person bring up a function from the 3ds era it alway get the flame wars going, I thought this place was welcome to the 3ds games but mybe not, but I might be wrong.
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Just now, shadowofchaos said:
So you want an already established work to literally be changed to fit you into the story?
That sounds like a teenager's Sonic OC fanfiction.
I am getting *married* in real life because of Awakening. If you think I'm the "no fun allowed" veteran, you should do your research.
The avatar mechanic has its place. In games that is built around it.
Not reducing the quality of an already established narrative.
Uh what I don't know how having an my unit is considered an sonic OC than all games with an avatar are Sonic OC seem kind of childish but whatever used to fire emblem fanbase being up in arms over a feature like avatar like it an sin. Happy for your marriage but really no need to be so anti-avatar. How am i supposed to do my research on you I could care less about your real life, no offense btw.
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44 minutes ago, Koumal8 said:
Who the hell is talking about holy weapons here?! Seriously, I was talking about basic item inheritance between three children and two parents. Also the fact that I love pizza doesn't mean I dip it into my freaking bean soup: it just doesn't work, it doesn't belong there! Old FE games were NOT conceived together with the idea of a marry-all-most-likely-overpowered MU in mind. Let's take another example: FE7. Let's say you start playing as a female avatar and marry Matthew. Then the Leila scene happens. Now I really wanna see IS handling THAT in the right way! It doesn't mean that all FE games are like that though: I can see a MU being added to FE9 for example. Ike is so popular there's no way IS will have the avatar overtake him, the game is pretty easy as is and due to how the epilogue is structured I can see the avatar not being able to marry anyone and just chilling with the Greil mercs at the end of the game.
Dude I don't know to much of the fe 4 story or mechanic I just know there are holy weapons and incest along with a cool story. now they can make it were certain character supports cant be acess until a certain point in the story. I know a bit from the an gba hack of fe4 too. like Certain pairing like Marth x Caeda, Sigurd x Deirdre or Celica x Alm and some support cast like Grey X Clair they can't work around but others you can. I guess Ninnan kind of hard one too since love Eliwood, but so did Sumia with Chrom but you could still marry her. Now I love the avatar feature for different reasons but the primary reason is because I love being a part of the story with the cast of character it make it more immersive for me.
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2 hours ago, Koumal8 said:
Don't put words into my mouth. Casual fans can enjoy the games however they want to, and for your information I love Corrin gameplaywise and I freely admit that Fates would be much more boring without them. Doesn't mean I don't have the right be be more than suspicious about the addition of an avatar in FE4: he has NO place there. Oifey and Lewyn in both gens, Shanan, heck even Cuan must know something about war, it's full of possible capable tacticians. And I repeat: what happens if your avatar marries say Aideen? Lana inherits Aideen's staves, okay, your son/daughter inherits your items and Lester... oh yeah he gets jack shit. Also Alec, Noish and comapny REALLY need another overpowered unit to overshadow them and compete with them for the decent gear.
Well, I agree, and I know I'm not the only one one. Surprised?
Also, about Chris: it's been a wile since I last finished FE11/12, but wasn't the general consensus that FE11 gave Marth some much needed development by making him a stronger character and by showing his evolution from angsty and vengeance-driven teenager to reliable and mature king while FE12 suddenly presents him as a wimp for no reason (see Elice's conversation with Chris in the prologue)?
I didnt put word in your mouth you were the one who was bad mouthing the MU being in the game You know they can make it that the holy weapons chose their owners right. if your casual fan happy for you but you know there are people who like that mechanic the Avatar. It like I said seem some fans in the fanbase just hate the MU in FE but probably love having it in a different game, I see that as hypocritical in a way.
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8 minutes ago, Doof said:
Considering IntSys track record, can you blame any us for being wary? The Avatar has escalated in plot importance to the point one was the actual main protagonist of a story!
I'm not against MUs, being that Robin is my fav Awakening character, but inserting a self-insert in a previously established story that worked well without one is almost always a bad idea. MUs should stick to newer entries.
I can get being all wary or worried but people get all stupid with the insults on the MU and shit. I personally think people just want the game to be like the old days on this forum. Damn seem like the fanbase or at least GBA fans seem like old people with the whole my generation was better than yours.
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5 minutes ago, Not_The_NSA said:
No thanks, FE4 is all about Sigurd and Seliph. It's not about Sigurd, Seliph, and the My Unit that Sigurd found unconscious while looking for Aideen in bandit town. Said My Unit is also the brother/sister to Arvis (BET YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT TWIST) and the only survivor of Belhalla Massacre who takes over Oifery role as Seliph's protector and raises Seliph, the twins, and his My Unit kid whose also a dork...
I didn't say all that dumb shit I said I wouldn't mind fighting with Sigurd he can still be the protagonist of his story same with his son the MU doesn't need to be plot important. Damn Everytime someone mention the MU around here people get all piss off.
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56 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said:
Child mechanics added carrying on the legacy of their parents to the narrative.
Conditional coding would be a disaster with the FE13 mechanics in addition to FE4.
FE4 is beloved for having a darker narrative. Adding said mechanics to that is literally insulting the very core, hardcore fanbase that loves that SNES era.
FE12 clearly demonstrated they can't keep the original *AND* pander to self insert players.
No, thank you.
My Unit characters have their place.
FE7? Literally fulfilling the wishes of my past waifu lord self to steal Ninian from Eliwood?
I'm sorry but FUCK THAT IDEA. BURN IT IN THE FIRES OF HELL.
Kris in FE12 being shoehorned in was disgusting. Imagine them being able to do more.
If Mark in FE7 was able to talk and actually marry characters, it will inevitably screw up an already established work. Blank slates are hard to write around.
The thought of avatars in past games feels flithy and absolutely disgusts me.
Damn dude who shitted in your food and made you Mr.grumpy.
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1 hour ago, Koumal8 said:
Lol what? I hope they never do that, also because they would have to to make the avatar broken to keep up with the other broken characters like Sigurd, Lex and Cuan and many of us do NOT want another whorshipped-by-all self insert. Also what if you use a male avatar and you marry, say, Aideen? Do you get three children or will the game replace Lana/Lester with the avatar's child?
Dude clam down they don't have to replace any child character or any other units they can do things like in fire emblem echoes add new characters plus more lore for the players. I would rather have twins for offsprings so both male and female counterpart have a chance to shine. For you info I like the Avatar unit or Mu because it make feel apart of the story along with the cast. The Avatar really doesn't need to be to plot important just a friend and companion to Sigurd and his crew. Damn you sound an like an vetrens who doesn't let casual fan just have fun. ?
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1 hour ago, Slumber said:
God I hope the Jugdral games don't have Avatars. Those games, much like Gaiden(Of what very little there was of it in the original), are much more personal stories, and adding in Avatars wouldn't do anything but take away from what was already there.
"This is Thracia 776, the story of how Leif builds up a liberation army against one of the most imposing armies on the continent and takes back his rightful throne and succeeds his murdered parents! Oh, and also his friend who everyone loves is there and is responsible for everything."
Same deal with FE4. Not gonna work.
Dam man you know how quash some fun time it just a fun thought.
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4 minutes ago, FEAnon said:
When you access the index for the female tactician's mug in the editor, you're supposed to insert it over the one there. You do that by pressing load from file and selecting the new mug. When that's done you save the rom and to verify that it works correctly, you'll check the female tactician in the game proper. For the in battle stuff, open up the rom in HxD and use go-to (not find) and enter the desired offset, make sure go-to is searching in hex. When you get to the offset, just paste over the desired hex stuff (make sure its set to overwrite) and save the rom.
You can check who supports who as soon as you get access to the preparations screen around Chapter 5, you can check it the same way like in vanilla FE7.
I didn't know that lol I just went in blind support who in the gba days well before fe 8. How do I check it.
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43 minutes ago, Blade Lord Lyn said:
Yeah I agree to both!
If they did put the avatar inti the story he could be mercenary who saw Sigurd having trouble with the bandits in the first chapter and decided to help him Sigurd like his abilities with the sword and he hire him to help hi save his childhood friend, As they travel together they get to know each like their likes and dislike, what ignore the other and when the final comes they are more than knight and mercenary they are the best of friends.
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26 minutes ago, RennacIsUnderrated said:
I think itd be super cool if the Avatar in FE7 was Robin in a remake. Theres this great theory that the two are the same character since they both wake up in a field, wear similar clothes, are great tacticians and Lyn in Awakening even says she met Robin long ago when he was her tactician. I have a running theory that after Robin kills Grima he gets teleported through time to Elibe and after defeating Nergal there he goes through the Dragons Gate and returns to where we see him wake up at the end of Awakening. I think thatd be an awesome way to remake FE7 and connect it to a really popular entry in the series. I mean who doesnt want to play as Robin again? But yeah Im a huge FE7 and FE8 fan. Hector was such a great and unique lord.
that would be really great or they could do it that Elibe is like 4000 years after Awakening, Hector was my favorite in fe7 beside Lyn and Nino and Jaffar. Heath had a great design to him too.
How is the games sales in America and Europe.
in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
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Yeah I agree on this front but it still unnerving that Nintendo haven't really been bragging about the sales of Echoes. The reason probably is that they consider this game nothing but a side project, which it is.
I mean 80k is not bad but it not Fates or Awakening numbers first week sales but still good.