Dark Nocturne

no i meant that im going to put as many of my spotpass units through mercenary as i can, not all of them as that'd be a huge amount of time grinding and thats not really fun for me. the only story units im using are krom and lucina with my unit as her mother so she can be a grandmaster too. so far im on chapter 7 and i was VERY lucky in that i got several change seals already, so my spotpass team is mostly strategists already they consist of clea(gaiden) nephenee, athena, shakshar and salem

actually skill is her best growth, i used her in my last playthrough as a mercenary-hero strategist- grandmaster and skill capped very fast and her speed str and mag were all high 30s. she is still awsome lol as for my grandmaster play-through, i believe ill start on hard mode first and im planning on having16 grandmasters(eventually) and 4 healers, most likely Valkyries as they have better mobility than sages, tho i may change 2 of them to falcon knights later, and maybe one trickster. found it waaay easier to use old my units if you add them to the unit list as soon as possible so they are relatively cheap. and to make it as easy as i can, im gonna try and put at least most of them through mercenary so they get weapon saver.

fair enough, tho i think you are going just a bit overboard with the idea. yea ill admit this game is alot more fanservicy than other games but alot of fire emblems had it, mostly in the female swordmasters and female mages. lots of flowy dresses with slits up the side that just plain wouldnt make sense in real war. iv always wondered why mages in games dont wear armor at all? i mean they could and usually mages are not speadsters in games so there is really no proper excuse as to why they can't. my favorite mage design is in dragon age 2 where your sister has a mage outfit made of chainmail, and i though awsome they changed basic magewear in this game.(sadly i was dissapointed) i do however dislike the female dark mage design. its just silly. but i like the female sorcerer look. idk its a mixed bag for me, tbh i liked the mage looks in thracia 776 the best out of any mage looks

so iv beaten the game a few times and decided that im gonna tackle lunatic mode with an all spotpass team and have them all be grandmasters, with a few minor exceptions of course, as in, a manditory healing unit and having my unit be a sorceress (for access to dark magic cuz i want at least 1 unit who can use it) now i do see the obvious downsides to this, suck as not having any unit with really great stats in a particular area, and a lack of lance or axe users, but i see this as a challenge i could possibly beat. (and if i cant ill try it on hard mode first) good part is since my team will be all made up of spotpass and other my units they usually have the skills of other classes already. well this should be fun!

well then your not going to take any peg knight dark peg or falcon knight in the game seriously, because as someone said before thats the default design of those classes. don't blame the artist just cuz thats what they were given to work with. that aside the only design i dislike is est, cuz to me her boots look like they just don't fit... leather shouldn't rumple like that. (plus thats not really underboob, she is stretching)

yea, i know alot of other classes are 'supposed' to be more combat oriented, but honestly my fave mage looks were the female mage from gaiden and the wind/thunder/fire mages from thracia 776. if all mages had a similer look to emilinas (probly slightly different for boys tho) id be more happy. they dont look... idk flashy like most promoted classes look

sages are usually my favorite class, as im partial to magic units i almost always like the design and utility of them, yea even radiant dawn mages. but i was really unsatisfied with them in this game, they look and play alot more like bishops in this game. i dunno i think they should have kept bishops and not mixed it with the sage class, its not like having another class of magic user woulda been too much i mean look at games like 4 and 5. they had lots of different magic classes, priest, wind/thunder/fire mages, shamans, sisters ext. anyone eles feel this way? as a side note im not huge on the design of the mages, but the only ones i really dont like are miriel and ritch cuz of the big stupid hats

it depends, some units have low defense and can be hard to keep alive, like ronku and sumia, but again they are useable

whats wrong with you? mansex is hawt! tho ikexranulf is way hotter, on a side note, who cares about his ancestry? ike probly had kids somewhere down the line, i honestly dont see why everyone is so uptight about it... why is he so cool just cuz he wasnt into anyone in his game? besides u know 2 dudes

i see, but back to my original question, ive been using dark knights as opposed to dark pegs, and im wondering if they have any advantage that would make them more viable, my original opinion on it was that most of the units able to promote to dark peg are not really mage units, like tiamo, sairi and sumia. and as a result they have low mag growths and would favor lance usage, whereas dark knight is a mage promotion so any unit able to be a dark knight will have a good mag growth anyway and most likely a sizable magic stat by the time of promotion and a good tome lvl. im trying to switch up my party a lil, was thinkin of trying out a extra MU by going to bow knight getting bow slayer then turning dark peg as im not buying dlc until the american release

pretty much, she's alot like donny, she comes under lvled with very weak stats, and she wont ever be useful unless you reclass her as dancer bases are horrible. if u really want her to be a dancer then she really should re-class and get some stats first, but by then i always just kept her as a swordmaster

i dont generally use dancers. to me its a slot a strong unit could be using

to people who have played, im asking cuz iv been using dark knights and i like them but i hear D. pegs are good too, but im just iffy with the whole flying thing. are they worth it or do u need to be extra careful cuz they fly? i was thinking of making sairi and olivia one as i dont use sumia, and tiamo is a mercenary right now

now THIS is a debate i would watch on tv..i think the reason i like FE13's reclassing better is the skill system that just wouldnt work if it still used FE11-12's system. is my opinion on this. and you never know, when the game comes to america they may change a few class set options...cough(myrmidon for serge)

id like to have at least one intelligent debate on this forum without people acting like petulant children... act like an adult please people will be more likely to treat you the same. (if however you are a child im sorry you'll grow up eventually) also you dont NEED to grind, it just makes units better there are plenty of chapters to train in the normal main story plus some random skirmishes that randomly appear, as oposed to buying scent boxes and spamming enemies. i got through my first normal mode playthrough without a scent box use and i made it fine with reclassed units. you just have to be smart. i also want to state that while you have all the right to have an opinion on this game as a lot of info is released, dont treat your opinion like fact as to how much certain units perform in certain classes. not to sound overly bitchy but its annoying

@don i really disagree with you. i think any argument in this game about re classing units to a class where they have an E rank is muted by forging and how much gold you get in this game. u basically get 2,000 gold every skirmish so theres no worry about forging. and yea if you played it you would class change for skills cuz if ur playing on harder modes you WILL need them, lunatic is brutal and u need all the skills you can get. on the other hand yea u prolly will need to grind a little bit for that but not ridiculously so.my only complaint about the reclassing in Serge's options, she really needed another melee class instead of cleric in her options. i would have like to see mercenary or myrmidon in there. tho surprisingly she makes an awesome Valkyrie. FE12 was one of my fav games and i really liked it, but the reclassing was a little bland. anyone can become anything is generic and with the growths they had some didnt have alot of options. but in 13 everyone is at least good in all their options. it is a huge step up, and im sorry you can't see that

to answer, no she hasnt played any FE game before 7. i feel she has kinda old fashioned views of rpg, like she like pure mages, pure healers and then melee units. she also complained that there is no bishop class and that the sage in this game is pretty much a bishop(which i kind of agree on, the sage class is a bishop sage mix so the sorceror could be the offensive mage, tho i dont think its a bad thing) she tried nightmare mode and said its impossible to beat.. meh i guess i gotta live with a friend who doesnt like the best game ever.... she said itd be ten times better if they used the same graphics as 6-7 to that i said she was insane

i was actually gonna do that, it will probly change her mind, i got to ch6 in lunatic with only krom and MU left, i also abused the fame bonuses to hire al my other MUs to make up the differences... im not restarting any chapters if a unit dies in my lunatic run(and im aware that i will miss out on great child units but dammit this mode is hard...)

she liked GBA games better she says she doesnt feel fire emblem should be as dark as the story is in 13, and she also doesnt like the mag/melee hybrid units, says it messes up the feel of a game that is supposed to have mele units and magic units . to be fair she feels that way about other rpg games too. she also thinks its about damn time that a female was the main character without sharing the spotlight with her brother or lover( something i can agree with) she also dislikes how there is a shortage of caveliers in this game. she doesnt like re-classing at all. put bluntly, we have different tastes, she did say that it was fun tho, and she thought double was an interesting addition, tho she said it makes some units too powerful and make it too easy

FE13 does reclassing way better than FE11 ans 12, and while i liked both of those games, the reclassing was ok but could have been better. like how basically anyone couls be anyone in their class set so imo it made the characters even more generic in that anyone could be anything basically. in 13 every unit has certain classes they can change into, so its more personalized of the new games this is my absolute favorite, gaiden still has a special place in my heart as the first FE game i ever played

i pretty much agree with this, everyone has their points of view but, the gba games were waaaay too cartoony in my opinion, and altho i have a few bones to pick with certain choices the art director took in 13 its much better, and it also took the re classing option and refined it into something much more streamlined. in my opinion its much harder than HHM almost giving thracia 776 a run for its money. it also adds a few new classes (personally im waiting for a bow-mage ). the GBA games were my least favorite games, they weren't bad, they were pretty fun, but were cartoony and lost the dark tones the last 2 games had.

was playing this game at a friends house who i let borrow it for a week and in that time she beat the game, then proceeded to tell me that the GBA fire emblems were much better had better stories and were more fun... we debated and lets say i disagreed with her... and now im curious about if there are anyone eles who has played it that feels this way? not startin this topic to argue or anything just wondering if anyone eles thinks that way too, or if my friend is insane

just finished a game with MUxKromnoms and made lucina a sorceror and she was good, but i like her better as a swordmaster. velvet makes an awesome thief but my least fav unit by far is donny... he is so ridiculously weak and he takes forever to lvl up, im only lvling him up so selena has good stats when i recriut her

im gonna sighn in to the stream on facebook anyone eles in the stream chat?

*comes and joins the fun* *remains hopefull*