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    About same-sex marriage function...

    in Fire Emblem Fates

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    And how so ?

    A kid with the same hair color, growth rates, stats, reclassement etc ? Lucky. And what's gonna happen to the biological parents ? They died ? Lucky.

    The principe of relativity exists, but gay parents having biological children don't.

    Seriously? What do growth rates, stats and reclassement have to do with biological parents?

    At the very least you could argue with nurture vs. nature.

    But actually, this is a videogame none of these things has anything to do with biology.

    And if a gay couple with high strength and low agility adopting a child that also shows high strength and low agility is what destroys your suspension of disbelief in a world of shapeshifters, magic and hyperbolic time chambers, I have no idea what to say.

    Anybody have screenshots of characters in unusual class choices?

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    Posted · Edited by Lexington

    Why does exorcist Marx have a tail? Or is that an accessory?

    Talking about tails:

    Do Nishiki and Flanell keep their tails in the other classes?

    Because is this video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za795rjTVDk

    they keep their natural tails, even though they have the other's class.

    I'd have thought, that the tail would be part of the Fox/Garou model

    Class Changing and Inheritance Thread

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    But the only one who can benefit from Buddy Seals without the need for an A+ support is Corrin, since (s)he can support with everyone in the game. Aside from that, there's only specific pairs and characters that can get A+ supports, none of which are named "Arthur/Harold" or "Flannel".

    Really? As far as I've heard every A can become an A+. But only if both characters are the same gender and each character can only have one A+.

    Class Changing and Inheritance Thread

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    Besides some more polishing, there's still a few questions that needs to be formally answered before it can be actually finished, and all of them are pertaining to Kanna and by extension the Avatar:

    • What Actually Happens when the Avatar's Class Set has an Overlap with his/her Spouse's Default Class?
    • Is there a difference between the Avatar being the Wife and the Avatar being the Husband on the above answer?
    • May the fact Avatar's Spouse is from the First Generation or the Second One affect the above answers?
    • Optional: Is there anything interesting about marrying a Kamui-sexual with a Class Overlap?
    • I've heard one account, where someone with a Spellcaster!Kamui married Orochi and the Marriage Seal gave her access to Dark Mage.
    • I doubt that the gender has any influence, since there are no genderlocked non-DLC classes.
    • I doubt this as well. If the Second Gen character's primary class is identical with Kamui's secondary class they should get the parallel class. Unless they already have the parallel class via inheritance. I got no clue then.
    • I don't see any reason for this, unless there is a Kamui-sexual that already has the parallel class of their primary class.

    Class Changing and Inheritance Thread

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    So here's the trend:

    1. Default class

    2. One of Fixed parent's classes

    3. One of Variable parent's classes

    4. Mother's faction parallel class

    Actually it looks more like this:

    Joker!Shigure

    1. Default class (Pegasus)

    2. One of Dad's classes (Rod Knight)

    3. One of Mom's classes (Pegasus or Rod Knight)

    4. Mother's faction parallel class (Wyvern)

    Otherwise he should be inheriting Joker's Cavalier.

    Class Changing and Inheritance Thread

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    So, under these rules, similar pairings should work the same way, right? As in:

    Arthur/Camilla -> Pegasus Warrior

    Odin/Nyx -> Spellcaster

    Has anyone tested these pairings out to see if these rules hold true for all pairings?

    Also, since the Cavalier equivalent seems to be a mystery, could I request Arthur/Pieri? Arthur has the Fighter and Cavalier tree, so Pieri should pass down the Hoshido equivalent of Cavalier, right?

    Nope.

    Arthur/Camilla -> Dark Mage

    Odin/Nyx -> Outlaw/Thief

    Because those are Camilla's and Nyx' secondary classes, which are not already automatically inherited by Lutz and Ophelia from their fathers.

    English Name Predictions

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    "Travesties that aren't even actual names" are extremely common in Fire Emblem. See: the aforementioned Flannel.

    Yup.

    Awakening: Chrom, Virion (a single virus particle), Stahl (steel in german), Ricken (a young deer in german), Panne, Libra, Cherche (searching in french), Tharja, Kjelle

    Radiant Dawn: Sothe, Haar (hair in german), Zihark, Tauroneo, Elincia, Makalov, Brom, Gatrie, Sanaki (I'm no even including the laguz names here)

    Those are just a few examples of FE names that aren't real names. A lot of fantasy video games use made up names or modifications of real names.

    So I really don't think "Subaki" and the others are such a big deal. Just call them whatever you want in your own head.

    An army of Butlers! [children spoilers]

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted · Edited by Lexington

    Wow, the more information I gather the more possible Butlers seem to pop up.

    I'm at 20 for the 3rd Route now.

    For shits and giggles, you have to name your Avatar to "Sebastian" or "Hayate" for this to take full effect.

    Man, you've really done your homework on how to get as many units as possible to be a Butler. Major props. And if you do indeed do this, I'd love to see you do an LP of it, or even just a video running the final chapter using only Butlers. I'd REALLY love to see this now.

    It'll be a while before attempting this, because 1) I have to wait for the EU release 2) this will not be my first playthrough.

    Also, I have no real way of streaming or recording anything from my 3DS :-/

    As for the name, I don't watch either of these anime, so it would probably be something else. Maybe Alfred or Jarvis. Maybe something generic butlerlike such as James, Giles or Jeeves. Or maybe Gerard Butler.

    For those who prefer Maids to Butlers, I'm working on it :P

    An army of Butlers! [children spoilers]

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    Posted

    Heres the male list which i think is the only one you need atm. compiled by squkyshoes on the marriage thread.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_POycW5dhfkWndhVWZXMTk5cTA/view

    So from that list on Nohr, you can buddy seal Kaze and Silas with joker to get 2 more butlers, you can also get Takumi to be one in Hoshido. So yeah you can make Takumi be a butler, i can't believe i just noticed that.

    On the Kunai lock, i never played the game so i am no expert, but with an army of 1-2 rangers you should be able to avoid the weapon triangle for counterattacks on your phase as axes and bows are mainly stuck to 1 range or 2 range respectively (unless those 1-2 enemy only weapons are really common) and then you only have hit to worry about and kunai seem to have high hit, and butlers seem to have good skill. And with the right positioning you should be able to mostly avoid Axes and bows during enemy phase. Plus everyone is a staff unit so that might help.

    Thanks! That brings the total up to 16! (or 18 for 3rd) Enough to use only Butlers on the final map!

    You can welcome Axes and Bows with open arms if you equip the right people with Reverse Shuriken . . .

    With Bowbreaker and Axebreaker being available to some of these characters, as well as the Reverse Shuriken the weapontriangle shouldn't be the problem.

    So, if this plan works depends on how much gold you can actually get in the Nohr/3rd path campaign.

    An army of Butlers! [children spoilers]

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    Posted

    But Shigure has Rod Knight by default.

    Oh! Awesome!

    I have been asking about what class Shigure inherits instead of Songstress but haven't gotten an answer until now.

    In that case Joker and Azura become more flexible and can just marry whoever they/you want.

    You are going to hate Axes and Bows.

    How harsh are the weapon triangle penalties this time?

    Also on Nohr, I'm not sure if you'd have enough gold to actually buy sufficient seals (because I don't think you get many, if any non-master seals in the game anyway)

    Maybe by using My Castle a lot or something?

    Another problem is going to be the limited Exp in a Nohr playthrough.

    Is it the same for 3rd route?

    An army of Butlers! [children spoilers]

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted · Edited by Lexington

    Since I really like the butler class I have been checking how to get an army of butlers.

    From what I can gather from the characters, their available classes and my understanding of this thread on marriage seals and children inheriting classes, this would be the playthrough for Nohr with the most butlers:

    M!Kamui (2nd class Rod Knight -> Butler) x Zero (Marriage Seal -> Butler) 1 and 2

    Joker (Butler) x (Azura, Luna, Belka, Pieri or Nyx) -> Deer (Rod Knight by default -> Butler) 3, and 4

    Azura x (Joker, Odin, Lazward, Silas, Kaze or Flanell) -> Shigure (Rod Knight by inheritance instead of Songstress -> Butler) 5

    Felicia x Xander (Marriage Seal -> Butler) -> Siegbert (Rod Knight by inheritance -> Butler) 6 and 7

    Effie x Benoit (Marriage Seal -> Butler, because he already has her Knight class) -> Ignis (inherits Effie's Rod Knight because he already has Knight -> Butler) 8 and 9

    Charlotte x Arthur (Marriage Seal -> Butler, because he already has her Fighter class) -> Lutz (inherits Charlotte's Rod Knight because he already inherits Arthur's Fighter -> Butler) 10 and 11

    Leo (2nd class Rod Knight -> Butler) x (Luna, Belka, Pieri or Nyx) -> Foleo (Rod Knight by default -> Butler) 12 and 13

    Elise x (Odin, Lazward or Flanell) (Marriage Seal -> Butler) -> No male child :( 14

    Silas and Kaze (Buddy Seal with Joker -> Butler) 15 and 16

    16 Butlers

    For a 3rd Route Playthrough you can substitue:

    F!Kamui (2nd Class Rod Knight) x (any Hoshido male with a male child) (Marriage Seal->Butler) -> M!Kanna (inherits Rod Knight) and Dad's male child (probably won't inherit Rod Knight but Dark Prince) +-0

    Felicia x (any Hoshido male with a male child) (Marriage Seal->Butler) -> male child (inherits Rod Knight -> Butler) +-0

    Elise x Ryoma (Marriage Seal -> Butler) -> Shinonome (Rod Knight by inheritance -> Butler) +1

    Takumi (Buddy Seal with Joker -> Butler) +1

    Kisaragi (Buddy Seal with Foleo or Deere) +1

    Grey (Buddy Seal with Deere) +1

    20 Butlers, but you will have to use your F!Kamui as a non-Butler.

    For 3rd Route you could also use M!Kamui and marry any of the females you wish instead of Zero, because you have too many Butlers for the final map anyway.

    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted · Edited by Lexington

    Well, you have one more possibility I can see outright with Nohr than with Hoshido for access to the Maid/Butler classes. It's not really spoiler-y, with regard to story details, but I've tagged it just in case.

    Unfortunately, with Hoshido, only Kamui (If you pick Troubador as his/her secondary class) and Jakob/Felicia are really going to be able to be Maid/Butler, as it's a Nohr-specific promotion of the Rod Knight (Troubador) class. They can pass the class along via A+ support (Buddy Seals), and marriage, as well as to their respective children.

    If you do go the Nohr route, you can have Kamui use Rod Knight (Troubador) as his/her secondary class to pass on to another 1st gen character via marriage seal. Jakob and Felicia apply here as well when it comes to passing the class to another first gen, as Troubador is the base class for both. Of course, Any Kamui-produced child(ren) will also inherit Rod Knight from Kamui courtesy of it being his/her secondary class (From what I've heard, Dark Prince/ss is not inheritable by spouses, but I may be wrong about the children, as I've seen a SS of Velour,a child character, with Dark Princess?). Elise gets Rod Knight as her base class, so she can pass that on to any one of the male 1st gen characters and their respective child via marriage.

    I plan on pairing Elise with Benoit at least once, if only because I'm amused by the idea of a gentle giant butler, as well as his son.

    I know about the reclassing, seals and stuff. Back when waiting for Awakening I usually spend my time waiting for the EU release with makings lists and charts about about all characters combinations, child classes etc. I already have 2 Hoshido and 2 Nohr playthroughs mapped out.

    I was wondering if there are any videos that show more butler attack animations than the class roll or the butler outfit on other characters, like Leo's child, but I don't want to watch any playthrough to avoid spoilers.

    Otherwise I'll just have to wait.

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