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Red Dingo

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  1. On 8/10/2019 at 4:02 AM, eclipse said:

    Guns can also be used for hunting (whether it be for sport or sustenance)

    But they usually aren't.

    On 8/10/2019 at 4:02 AM, eclipse said:

    pleasure (shooting range)

    But they usually aren't.

    The most common use for guns is killing people. I don't understand why that's so difficult for anyone to understand. You don't see arms manufacturers marketing their wares on hunting or target shooting, its on how quickly you can turn a school into into a charnel house. The fact that we regulate alcohol and vehicle operations to minimize instances of drunk driving only strengthens the argument for gun laws: because of the damage this shit causes when it's unregulated at a federal level.

  2. 8 hours ago, hi_scroes said:

    Have you considered that this is true of every work of fiction ever produced? A story can only contain what it contains, it can't invent a new ending for itself. Even if "fate" is not part of a narrative proper, every story is necessarily limited. Some stories play with this idea and some do not, but it's true for all of them.

    The whole point of this thread is "what if" scenario. This angle you're going with here is essentially a 'nuh uh" to the entire premise of the discussion.

    8 hours ago, hi_scroes said:

    Not exactly, but Valkyrie's use of quintessence and the geasa in general all play with fate. It's up to interpretation, but to me it's no stretch to say the dragons are shown to have some influence over human fate. But I should do a longer writeup of what I think.

    The Valkyrie staff has an entirely functional magic explanation that does not need "fate" to explain. I'm not sure which type of "geasa" you are talking about but the Holy Blood has an entirely mechanistic explanation as well.

  3. 7 hours ago, Cossack>Cavalier said:

    That's fair. If it helps, a decent explanation is that part of what it means for divinity to be divine is that it can manipulate the causality or the material world. It's not simply tossing big fireballs by the ability to alter the nature of reality. Console commands for the universe, if you will. 

    Or, that the sort of truth an author of a more mythical story is trying to tell isn't a materialistic truth but rather an ethical or poetic truth. No one would bother to tell a story where Manfroy tripped and fell on the way to bringing the book to Julius, breaking his own neck in the process. Or one where Arvis was shooting blanks and the whole plan of the Loptyr cult was foiled by the lack of the S-ranked Tome of Viagra. Details like that get in the way of events unfolding so that the children of Deidre, Sigurd, and Arvis would kill eachother, replaying the original Holy War. That's why I think Seliph also had to recapture Darna in Chapter 7 right after the Yied shrine which served as a lair for the Loptyr cult. The player is supposed to see it on the map/capture it and think, "Wow, Darna. I know that place. It's the miracle of Darna all over again. By golly, it's another Holy War!" 

    But, again, I understand that sort of thing being annoying. Plot contrivances are what they are.

    Loptyr isn't divine, and there is no indication that either dragons possess such powers over causality. More to the point, the fact that fate or whatever rigs the game renders every choice the characters make essentially meaningless. They would be nothing more players in a some sadistic tragicomic farce. Julius was always screwed by destiny to be possessed by it. Julia was always destined to kill her brother. That's just plain garbage. I'd much rather the plot be a result of choices made countless agents than the whim of some higher power that got bored.

  4. On 4/22/2022 at 4:37 PM, Cossack>Cavalier said:

    I think it's hard to apply purely material logic to things like this. It's like suggesting that Isildur should have simply tossed the One Ring into the middle of the ocean halfway between Middle-Earth and Valinor and everything would have been just fine. When you're dealing with myth and magic and evil artifacts that have a will of their own, it's not easy. You'll end up with a sea quake that breaks the box, a fish swallows the book, and a Loptyr sect fisherman just happens to pluck that fish from the ocean. It's a little silly to put it that way, but I think that's an inherent part of the logic of universes like Jugdral. Consider Deidre's premonition that if she were separated from Sigurd harm would come to her. Or the odds behind Cigyun giving birth to children, one from a scion of Naga and the other a scion of Loptyr? And then for those two children to meet and have a child themselves? Indeed, the Loptyr sect on got involved in that very last step (so far as we know) in bringing Arvis and Deidre together. The rest was seemingly Cigyun on her own. Which to me speaks to fate and divine intervention.

    That really ticks me off for some reason.

  5. Just to clarify, it sounded like the Child Hunts only started getting into gear when Julius had the throne and was possessed by Loptyr. Even if the tome was indestructible, it could still theoretically be placed in a chest and dropped off somewhere in the middle of the ocean, which has a similar effect to destroying it. It honestly seems like an easier way to the thwart Loptyr than forcing a girl to strike down her twin brother.

  6. On 4/7/2022 at 12:48 PM, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

    Alternatively, he cast it on Sothe. After all, General Ike is "the father of Sothe's children".

    In my head cannon, there ain't no way Soren nor Micaiah would let their thirst targets get together.

    On 4/14/2022 at 12:43 AM, NainaInTheSky said:

    My favorite stupid crack theory is that Fateslandia and Fodlan (and by extension Dagda, Almyra, Brigid, etc.) are located in the same world, with one being on the opposite side of the planet from the other. Due to limitations in travel and major wars (Hoshido vs. Nohr, the various Fodlan conflicts), the two have just never got around to meeting.

    To connect to that, the Anankos and the other dragons from Fates were also Nabateans, albeit a splinter branch. 

    See, the problem with that is that it makes the cringe story of Fates take place in the same worldspace as the awesome story of Three Houses.

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