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  1. I can make time for a RP.

    Name: Syrene Lerwick
    Sex: Female

    Nationality: Dracian

    RPer: The Objection! A.K.A me

    Age: 19

    Appearance: A mixed blood, has green eyes, average height, and a black wavy hair. Is actually quite slender.

    Personality: Less than trustworthy, Syrene rarely ever tells you the truth. Even when she does, she's usually not telling you everything. She often boasts more than she could prove. However, Syrene treats strong opponents with respect and fights her battles fairly.

    Backstory: (I'm bad at making logical sense)

    The daughter of Lord William Lerwick, a former Tascaran general who acted as a secret informer for Lord Miriam Randel during the Tascaran Civil War. When Miriam Randel was captured, he feared that he will soon be found out. Lord William then decided to use his connections to smuggle himself and his family to Dracia at the cost of losing his position, his title and most of his fortune.

    His wife contracted a fatal disease and died 7 years later, leaving behind 2 daughters. William married another Dracian woman 3 years after his former wife and got another 1 son and 1 daughter (Syrene Lerwick). Her family was mostly great with a loving father and a caring mother. The eldest sisters occasionally played pranks on her and her brother but otherwise they got along pretty well.

    Lord William teaches his children swordplay at early ages, and Syrene was naturally talented at it, even surpassing her brother. While her father only teaches his children for self-defense, he saw Syrene's potential and began teaching her the arts of war. He eventually told her about his past and how Charmadia was formed. Syrene decided that Charmadia was the best place to start her military career and joined Charmadia's army. However since her family no longer had the required fortune to get her there, she had to go through the long way of finding her own way there. She hopes that she won't be disappointed.

    Class: Warrior

    Level: 1

    Attributes: 8 Str/ 6 Sta/ 5 Dex/ 6 Agi
    Skills: Taunt

    Equipment: Shortsword, Round Shield, Knives, Chainmail

    Attack = 11 (Shortsword), 9 (Knives)
    Evade = 19 (Shortsword), 18 (Knives)

    Hit = 14 (Shortsword), 9 (Knives)

    Attack Speed = 18 (Shortsword), 12 (Knives)

    HP = 28

    Armour = 5

    Initiative = 4

    I hope I finally got it right this time....

  2. Unless this is another reaction test, why did you kill me?

    Also why the h*ll would I claim if I was an SK !?

    Let's say you're a real dayvig, what gave you the impression that you're the only one? I asked Prims at the beginning of the game if multiple roles exist and he didn't confirm/deny which means it's possible.

    If I'm dying, then this is so far the most frustrating death in my history of mafia games.

  3. Objection, why the hell did you claim? Just because someone faked it doesn't mean that you have to out it now. ;/

    Because I'll have to post here if I want to kill someone. My role's going out this day anyway, so why not claim?

    I don't think you should vig someone for lack of activity...

    Also does your dayvig result in an instant hammer this is kind of important.

    No. Just reduces the number of players needed for hammer.

  4. Now that it's not 1 AM, I am going to annoy you with more jokes post some actual reads

    Kirsche's recent actions are bugging me somewhat, didn't like how you implemented the fake vig, how is Strege giving up after he's supposedly dead make him scummy? I feel like you're starting to make up reasons to be suspicious on Strege which I do not like. What did you hope to gain by using your mayor role right now? If you're just using your role for the sake of using it, I will not be pleased.

    I suppose Strege's response to my question was reasonable, even though I don't particularly agree but I can't force everyone to follow my PoV so I'm laying this one off.

    My bearclaw read hasn't changed, I just found other fishes.

    @Refa: Don't ignore me, I need answers for this please....

    Also, I'm the real dayvig. Well, an Even Days Vigilante to be precise. I can make 1 kill on even-numbered days. Which means that I can kill one now and another on D4, D6, etc. And I have every intention of using it, just haven't found a target. Thinking of Rocker or NekoRex but I dunno....

    My character of choice was Jack the Ripper in case anyone's wondering.

    I'm town, which was unfortunate since Jack the Ripper would've made a perfect serial killer material :'(

    If there's something I missed or was unclear on, let me know.

  5. Time for stuff.

    First for the question everyone's been asking: Why did I vote for Proto and not Elieson or SB. (Keep in mind that this was up to the end of D1)

    Elieson was never very scummy IMO. Sure, his Strege vote wasn't the best but that's all I got on him. One more thing to keep in mind

    And at the time of his vote, the votals were very close and Elie was even leading

    Elieson (7) - eclipse, NekoRex, Bluedoom, BigBangMeteor, Kay, Strege, Paperblade

    NekoRex, the inactive. Bluedoom who thought his vote was still on Proto. Eclipse, who wasn't there for phase end. Strege, who was only aware of his vote on Elie minutes before Phase End. Kay, hasn't posted since 24th October. Paper is the only one who was voting Elie for finding him scummy, and I refuse to support such a wagon.

    As for SB, you backstabber. I never got what was scummy about him. And he has a good role. I didn't see a reason to support his lynch.

    Now as for my current scum reads:

    Bearclaw's not off the grid yet, he's still flip-flopping all over the place which I do not like. For example:

    Unsure whether I'd like him or SB more because SB's content post looks townie (imo) and makes several good points.

    And yet you were still voting SB at the point, wat?

    Kind of agree with BBM's case on Shinori, that is a bit weird on Shinori's part.

    @BBM: That's what I would normally do, but after being suspected for misrepping people so many times, I decided to put the last bit.

    @Refa:

    Also reads wise, mine are still the same as they were yesterday, with the notable exception that yes, I am finding Objection to be scummier. In addition to what BBM said, I don't like how he was rallying people to vote for Proto to save Paper's role. Thinking back though, I can see it being the actions of a misguided townie (I know I've made several such mistakes in the past), so it's more of something that bothers me because I already have a scum read on him rather than the basis of it.

    What gave you the impression? When did you have a scumread on me before?

    @Bluedoom: I was worried that the mods would think that I switched my vote to Elie even though it was a joke. Silly me.

    Also,

    Also I want to talk to SB on IRC tonight, make it happen BBM

    Posted by Paperblade mentioned SB and BBM, all 3 are voting me. I detect a conspiracy. jk

    More's coming up later when it's not so late.

  6. My responses to BBM in bold

    Well I was going over some of the Proto votes and I think Objection is the worst? He says nothing about Proto prior to voting him in 373 except for in 249, where he just says he's unhappy about Proto's lack of scumreads (but also follows it up with a comment on how he's not one to judge, which sort of weakens it). His reason for voting Proto in 373 is that he doesn't like any of the other wagons (Elie, Boron, SB). Except he's said literally nothing directly about any of those three. And at the time of his vote, the votals were very close and Elie was even leading, I think. So his vote was pretty important and the lack of effort devoted to it is off-putting. There were also like 4 hours left in the phase at the time, so it's not like it was super critical he vote right away either.

    I think I said that I won't be there on phase end and I really wasn't. Proto looks like the worst of the wagon to me, I was too busy to post my read on him then and I don't see the point of doing it now. Why I didn't vote the other 3 wagons is coming soon, don't worry. While it may not be critical for the game, that was my last chance to vote before phase end and I only had like 15 minutes, so uhh.... yeah.

    The only real read he ever gives is on Bearclaw in 249, and at the end of it he has this: "Also, if I'm misrepping something, it's not because I mean it, It's because I don't get it / have a wrong understanding of it. Feel free to point it out."

    It gives me the feeling he's like asking for someone to give him an excuse not to vote Bearclaw, which is suspicious to me because I feel that if a townie was struggling for scumreads and only had one, they'd push it a lot.

    I didn't want someone to give me an excuse to not vote Bearclaw, I wrote that because I often misrepped things unintentionally and made people suspicious at me (which I didn't want). Also, if I went through the trouble of doing a post by post analysis, how was I not pushing my scumread?

    Read updates coming soon.

  7. With this you are handwaving all of PB v Boron, all of Me v Strege, all of Elie v the world and most of Proto v the world ("not many reads" is not satsifactory). Proto is also guilty of a small discussion variety, though new stuff v PB is a start, even if I disagree with the conclusion.

    No, only bearclaw's newest post which doesn't give out much, the rest of the stuff can wait for my next post when my head doesn't hurt anymore.

    Is this a scummy thing? Is this a townie thing? If neither then what is the point of mentioning this over the actual reads he presents?

    neither, just takes an unneeded effort to read through.

  8. Basically, yes I find Bearclaw scummy and would like to renew my vote ##Unvote ##Vote: Bearclaw. Also, if I'm misrepping something, it's not because I mean it, It's because I don't get it / have a wrong understanding of it. Feel free to point it out.

    I have no idea how little got there.

  9. Alright, I've finally done my reread (that wasn't so long now, was it?) and I would ##Unvote ##Vote: Elieson for making long walls of text which was a pain to read. Except not really.

    @Strege

    The second one is from Refa, which doesn't sound like forcing BBM to out his character but asking BBM about what he claimed. I think you have a misled knowledge on Refa's intentions. Explanations please.

    Yes please, link to the post.

    @Refa What is your current stance on Bearclaw? Is he still the most suspicious, or you found another?

    Now for reads:

    Not happy on Proto's lack of scumreads.... but I'm not one to talk.

    Bearclaw's long post list is about 10x (this is an exaggeration) longer than it should be, posting about inactives is unneeded, learned the hard way.

    Undecided on Refa, would wait for response. Over.

    And now for my entire read on Bearclaw from a post by post analysis: (brace yourself)

    # Posts 1 and 2 is RVS, not important.

    # Post 3 is about being wary of claiming to BBM, still good.

    # Posts 4 and 5 is where it starts to get interesting. I'll leave this here for future reference.

    Not a valid reason to think BBM is scum but I think it's enough to doubt his claim.

    He stated that BBM's role is not a valid reason to think he's scum, fair enough

    # Posts 6, 7, 8, and 9 is a bunch of discussion about roles, other games, and other not so important stuff

    # I'll leave post 10 here for future reference

    I don't want BBM lynched, he has done nothing that makes me think he's scum besides make a claim that I feel to be scummy.


    I've already stated that my feelings on his claim doesn't make him worth lynching to me.

    # Post 11 is a 180 degree turn

    BBM has done nothing townie-looking, (I'm having trouble with the words here so i might come across as vague) he claimed like that and then just sort of talked about his claim. I can understand that he was (and remains apparently) gone before stuff worth talking about happened but that doesn't mean he's not under my suspicion because he wants to basically become town leader and have everyone trust him with nothing but a suspicious (imo) claim to go on. (That was terrible and probably makes no sense...I'll attempt rewording when I'm back on pc)

    followed by a vote on BBM, completely different from what he was telling us on Post #10. This post also gives off the feeling that bear wasn't voting BBM from finding him scummy but for being called out by Refa.

    # Post 12 is an unimportant one-liner

    # Post 13 states his 2 reasons for voting BBM

    1. Disliking the way he claimed and how he's followed it up so far.

    2. Wanting some reads from a potential leader (so a pressure vote I guess).

    Remember Post 10? Apparently he doesn't. Which leaves number 2, the pressure vote.

    # Post 14

    You're voting someone else so unless you havw some cool role that won't work.


    Only part of it is a pressure vote though, I have reasons to believe he's scummy and those are also a large part of why I'm voting.

    Refer post 13.

    # Post 15 and 16 blah blah blah

    # Post 17 is a quick vote change to Boron and Post 18 has him give the logic everyone used to vote him and used it to vote Boron

    # Too lazy to read Post 19, 20, 21

    # Post 22 ^ read far above

    # And by now I think I'll end it here since the rest don't look so important.

    Basically, yes I find Bearclaw a little scummy and would like to renew my vote ##Unvote ##Vote: Bearclaw. Also, if I'm misrepping something, it's not because I mean it, It's because I don't get it / have a wrong understanding of it. Feel free to point it out.

  10. Playing 2 games is NOT easy. Regarding Refa's post at me, here you go:

    Literally nothing? While his posts have more than their fair share of fluff, that seems like a harsh exaggeration.

    Yeah, that was an exaggeration on my part. I'm bad at choosing words, moving on.

    While I don't agree with Trollstool's vote, he certainly isn't voting BBM for acting like a townie. I don't like how you're misrepping his argument

    I'm not misrepping his argument, I don't understand it. I think that's a difference, although I never got an explanation but whatever.

    I don't hate you?

    One of the parts that I regret saying, sorry.

    False, just because an action doesn't help town, doesn't mean you can claim it as scummy. I don't like how one track you're being with this. Additionally, his actions are counterproductive because scum benefits from blending in, and voting Eclipse and then unvoting her, keeping his RVS vote instead of voting for Polydeuces, actions like that would not benefit scum (unless you're assuming that they're scumbuddies, but that's a bit of a stretch at this time).

    Pretty good point, and one of the reasons why I was frustrated when they lynched you. I honestly didn't thought that you would get lynched.

    Now then, I'll do a reread and post more reads soon.

  11. I bet everyone forgot I was playing. Time to make you remember!

    Props to Prims for sorting everyones' names by the alphabet.

    I also don't want to blindly trust BBM. However I do agree with Paper that a leader would be great.

    I'll lead if you want.

    Also, my role is easy to prove. But it would be dumb for me to do it this early.

    Now for the serious part.

    First off, BBclaiM seems honest and easily provable. This does not however, clear him completely. So, I'm against massclaiming D1 (or at least I won't claim D1). Everyone already said this anyway soo.... next.

    Refa asking for a character claim isn't scummy, and looks to be based on curiosity. So I'll leave it at that.

    I never actually found Strege weird enough until his most recent post, which I quoted:

    Because BBM hadn't claimed character, so it wasn't "asking what he claimed" but rather "asking what character he was" which /is scummy rolefishing/.

    ...What character did you claim?

    The second one is from Refa, which doesn't sound like forcing BBM to out his character but asking BBM about what he claimed. I think you have a misled knowledge on Refa's intentions. Explanations please.

    No, this was the towniest thing about his whole claim. He just did something without thinking about whether it would look scummy. Scum, on the other hand, would almost certainly not make such a proposal without thinking a great deal about how it would look, therefore if anything, they'd be much more likely to offer a bunch of justifications right off the bat for why they should be trusted.

    This is a pretty good point by Kay, unless they're scumbuddies and this is all planned (unlikely). Inclined to trust Kay and BBM right now. (although I still won't claim)

    Will post better stuff when I reread this thread again (will happen soon, I promise).

    .... Hail the Jews. Also yes, I believe that roles ARE based on flavor (at least my role is).

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