General Spoon Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 This entire game is RNG screwing me. This. Kashim is failing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanibomb Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 This. Kashim is failing me. He's failing me, too. D: I'm using every bow unit in this game, and strangely Jeorge is turning out to be the best. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Those are technical restraints, however. Are you disregarding that Oguma and Navarre, even in the original artwork, looked different?They do look different, but as far as in-game is concerned, they did a fine job making Navarre standing out more. He's hardly generic as far as Akanaea is concerned.If you are going to try and say that they changed his TCG official art, then I want to say that his TCG artwork makes him resemble FE4 swordmasters, so even his TCG doesn't really make him "not generic." Edited February 22, 2009 by Chainey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yes, because you know every generic Myrmidon is based on him?Seriously, are you disregarding the fact that he had to share Oguma's in-battle sprite until now? Disregarding that at one point his portrait was essentially Oguma's with longer hair in FE1? Err...actually, Navarre's portrait was shared by Misheil. Not a longer haired Oguma. Oguma: Navarre: Misheil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 My bad. They both still wear plate mail armor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Man, FE1's portraits were cock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Man, FE1's portraits were cock. Indeed. Gordon: Zagaro: Wolf: Thomas: Yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Toms/Michelan have arguably awesome portraits, though. Edited February 23, 2009 by Nathan Graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Toms/Michelan have arguably awesome portraits, though. Lol! That one is win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 A lot of the first two Fire Emblems are wasted, graphics-wise. Laziness and bad decision making creates these MSPaint graphics you see thoughout the game D: This easily replaced Marth's mugshot. All it takes is some proper color manipulation. Hell, I could even make my mug a little better and still have it look good >.> Now, without moving banks around, though, most of the mugs are shared with four~seven other characters. out of 256 tiles, a number of which are reserved for other graphics, there's not much room for customization. There is, however, for tweaks of individuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 A lot of the first two Fire Emblems are wasted, graphics-wise. Laziness and bad decision making creates these MSPaint graphics you see thoughout the game D: This easily replaced Marth's mugshot. All it takes is some proper color manipulation. Hell, I could even make my mug a little better and still have it look good >.> Now, without moving banks around, though, most of the mugs are shared with four~seven other characters. out of 256 tiles, a number of which are reserved for other graphics, there's not much room for customization. There is, however, for tweaks of individuality. You mean warts and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 To say that they made him look more generic is dumb. Well, generic in the sense of what happened AFTER his debut. I mean Nabarl (or Navarre, whatever) is EQUAL TO RUTGER. Long hair. check. Red robe. check. enemy unit. check. must talk with a girl. check. killing edge. check (this was later made to be generic). female counterpart. check. Rutger = Karel = Joshua need I go on? Narbarl IS generic. How? Because he's the starter of the Nabarl ARCHTYPE! >:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenyenkeStevens Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nabarls just eh in my books, not anything special, the only reason i recruited him was for his killing edge for Ogma, and all classes have been given the stereotype look, its just apart of what makes Fire Emblem so welcoming i find. Nothing to crazy or new, kind of calming in an odd way. Also i found once i got frey up to level 20 and premoted him, he was much better as a swordmaster than Nabarl could ever be, good skill and speed, and good strength, always a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Navarre has never really turned out great for me either. Especially in the remake, for one reason or another >.> You mean warts and stuff? To a degree. For example, one could take two single tiles (each 8x8 pixels) and create enough defining differences to give an entirely different hair style, or facial structure, or armor design, or whathaveyou. A somewhat good example would be to examine Cliff, Grey, and Robin from Gaiden (FE2) and see their differences, while still only being something like one~four tiles different from one another, altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nothing to crazy or new, kind of calming in an odd way. But...Athena! She's more than vun vuman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 And that's why Nabarl reclasses to Cav. SMs in general suck. One of, if not the, worst class in the game. Gimped avoid, no critical, crappy stat growth, awful bases, locked to swords in a lance dominant game, no nonfail 1-2 range...need I go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenyenkeStevens Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 But...Athena!She's more than vun vuman! Lol good point, shes a little out of the ordinary, but so far ive only gotten her once and never used her :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 He's decent in terms of stat growths but I'd rather class swap someone like abel if you want a good swordmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'd rather not use a swordmaster period since they're a horrible class. Abel REALLY wants that def Cav gives him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Swordmasters aren't THAT bad. They're mediocre, but nothing horrendous or awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Oh god, I found this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'd rather not use a swordmaster period since they're a horrible class.Abel REALLY wants that def Cav gives him. If I could get any Pal to 30 def I'd use that unit instead of a General. I find that avoid is terrible in this game anyway but the critical thing is a bit lame, I prefer Heroes but a SM with a forged Levin sword (such as Lena) is actually quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If I could get any Pal to 30 def I'd use that unit instead of a General. I find that avoid is terrible in this game anyway but the critical thing is a bit lame, I prefer Heroes but a SM with a forged Levin sword (such as Lena) is actually quite good.It's a good thing SM's can class swap into Heroes and Paladins can class swap to Generals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If I could get any Pal to 30 def I'd use that unit instead of a General. It's not about hitting the def cap: It's about making their def not fail. 5% def base. The cavs want all the help they can get. Also, more more and access to lances>what myrmidon does but a SM with a forged Levin sword (such as Lena) is actually quite good. Crying shame Levin swords are in finite supply and that Lena's worse than useless without them, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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