Fruity Insanity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 so what and another excuse was born it's what i do you know nothing, fruit ninja manly enough to admit your lack of manliness, at least So Shirley would handle things in a more mature and responsible manner! As soon as I'm done with RF4. Resident grouch! S-so mean. ;~; Hey! I admit that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ah, good thing for Friday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 So Shirley would handle things in a more mature and responsible manner! As soon as I'm done with RF4. Resident grouch! S-so mean. ;~; Hey! I admit that too! we aren't talking about maturity and responsibility, we're talking about manliness you've already finished it mumu beats me in that regard though no yamenaidesenpai please do you now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Neal, Freohr said to "quit associating maturity with masculinity because that sounds sooooo sexist ;u;" two exceptions already how terrible only two w-what the penguin plushie looks stylish with his glasses. Edited April 4, 2014 by Magnolia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Freohr said to "quit associating maturity with masculinity because that sounds sooooo sexist ;u;" huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 huh?Fixed. It was meant for Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 we aren't talking about maturity and responsibility, we're talking about manliness you've already finished it mumu beats me in that regard though no yamenaidesenpai please do you now But what is manliness if not responsibility? Having a backbone? In which case, I'm not very manly at all. That was arc 1. Of three arcs. Only when the fruit is mentioned! やめないで先輩 Yes, because even my mother says that I'm the least masculine of my siblings. And I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Neal, Freohr said to "quit associating maturity with masculinity because that sounds sooooo sexist ;u;" It's a bit sexist, but that's natural, given that the society in which we live is built on the remains of patriarchal society. I don't mean to sound sexist, but I could honestly defend such a mentality. :< Edited April 4, 2014 by Fruity Insanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I wonder if the teacher will not come to class again today. Would be a good time to play some more chess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Devil Trigger Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ya' know I miss this thread...*locks Zakku in the thread* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Neal, Freohr said to "quit associating maturity with masculinity because that sounds sooooo sexist ;u;" only two w-what the penguin plushie looks stylish with his glasses. listen to flareohr it's okay shirley baaaad But what is manliness if not responsibility? Having a backbone? In which case, I'm not very manly at all. That was arc 1. Of three arcs. Only when the fruit is mentioned! やめないで先輩 Yes, because even my mother says that I'm the least masculine of my siblings. And I agree. truly lux's kid x4 so that's why you're so insecure It's a bit sexist, but that's natural, given that the society in which we live is built on the remains of patriarchal society. I don't mean to sound sexist, but I could honestly defend such a mentality. :<it isn't natural it's a choice Edited April 4, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 But what is manliness if not responsibility? Having a backbone? In which case, I'm not very manly at all. Wouldn't that just be plain old being brave and responsible? It has little to do with masculinity or femininity, since you can have combinations of the 4 traits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Fixed. It was meant for Neal. I'm confused more by the statement, not who it was directed to. It's a bit sexist, but that's natural, given that the society in which we live is built on the remains of patriarchal society. I don't mean to sound sexist, but I could honestly defend such a mentality. :< And... how? Because there are some 'masculine' traits that are DEFINITELY not seen as mature. And the second you declare something 'natural', you state that it is correct. Edited April 4, 2014 by Aqua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 listen to flareohr it's okay shirley baaaad indeed IT IS. Nononono... but I don't actually have them... Not yet anyway. I'm confused more by the statement, not who it was directed to.oh. umm... well it seems that's what Neal is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 indeed IT IS. Nononono... but I don't actually have them... Not yet anyway. "not yet" baaaaaaaad oh. umm... well it seems that's what Neal is doing.being confused is what he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 "not yet" baaaaaaaad being confused is what he does noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I thought I was confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I thought I was confused. you don't take someone's glasses you just don't feigning that is your thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) listen to flareohr truly lux's kid x4 so that's why you're so insecure it isn't natural it's a choice I'm not wrong 100% of the time, though! ... ... ... ... ... Nah, I'm not insecure, nor do I have self-confidence issues. I agree with my mom, though! Not necessarily. Wouldn't that just be plain old being brave and responsible? It has little to do with masculinity or femininity, since you can have combinations of the 4 traits. Dunno. I guess. I'm not too sure about this whole "mascunilinity" and "manliness" stuff myself. :-/ And... how? Because there are some 'masculine' traits that are DEFINITELY not seen as mature. And the second you declare something 'natural', you state that it is correct. I guess I mean primarily having a backbone. Back in the days when humans foraged for food, both sexes were on a more or less equal footing. Men hunted. Women foraged. But when they moved on to a more sedentary lifestyle, things changed. Drastically. Because men were physically stronger, they were the ones to did the building. They did much of the farm work. And things changed such that the male became the head of the family. You can tie the shift to this society to sedentary lifestyles because it happened universally. East Asia. Europe. Middle East. India. And in the places where sedentary life didn't develop, such as some American Indians, such an extreme difference between sexes didn't develop. As civilizations developed, so did this system, and the patriarchal ideals became ingrained in much of the world, becoming, indeed, "natural." The father was the head. That was that. The focus shifted further and further away from women. In fact, it degressed so far such that men were considered "superior" to women. Men were the head. They were responsible for the family. They needed to have the backbone. They needed to act in a more mature manner. It was expected. Women were often associated with helplessness. Even simple things such as fairy tales demonstrate these ideas. The shift back to a more equal society is a relatively new idea, with many parts of the world still having the patriarchal ideal still deeply ingrained. Most of the world, in fact. (Because, lol, China and India make up, like, half the world population.) As time passes, I'm sure the world will be more equal. But as of now, patriarchal remnants remain, and are influential over many people's minds even today. One cannot deny that. I'm not sure if I explained too clearly. :-/ But yeah, that's it in a nutshell. It's a lot more complicated, but I'm not a history professor, so I don't know too much about this stuff. Just what I picked over world history and etc. Edited April 4, 2014 by Fruity Insanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) oh boy here we go I'm not wrong 100% of the time, though! ... ... ... ... ... Nah, I'm not insecure, nor do I have self-confidence issues. I agree with my mom, though! Not necessarily. So what? Are you taking pride in that, now? There seems to be a gap between what you say and what you do, and I'm not sure if you realize it's there Necessarily. It might not be a conscious choice. It might be a choice others have made for you. However, it's a choice nonetheless. Edited April 4, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Narcissistic males you find in frat houses are foolishly perceived as "masculine" and yet they're among the most immature bastards you'll know. That is all. Edited April 4, 2014 by Sirius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 you don't take someone's glasses you just don't feigning that is your thing ...why not :< I like putting them on the plushie. Sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) indeed IT IS. Nononono... but I don't actually have them... Not yet anyway. oh. umm... well it seems that's what Neal is doing. Ah. Well then. I'm not wrong 100% of the time, though! ... ... ... ... ... Nah, I'm not insecure, nor do I have self-confidence issues. I agree with my mom, though! Not necessarily. Dunno. I guess. I'm not too sure about this whole "mascunilinity" and "manliness" stuff myself. :-/ I guess I mean primarily having a backbone. Back in the days when humans foraged for food, both sexes were on a more or less equal footing. Men hunted. Women foraged. But when they moved on to a more sedentary lifestyle, things changed. Drastically. Because men were physically stronger, they were the ones to did the building. They did much of the farm work. And things changed such that the male became the head of the family. You can tie the shift to this society to sedentary lifestyles because it happened universally. East Asia. Europe. Middle East. India. And in the places where sedentary life didn't develop, such as some American Indians, such an extreme difference between sexes didn't develop. As civilizations developed, so did this system, and the patriarchal ideals became ingrained in much of the world, becoming, indeed, "natural." The father was the head. That was that. The focus shifted further and further away from women. In fact, it degressed so far such that men were considered "superior" to women. Men were the head. They were responsible for the family. They needed to have the backbone. They needed to act in a more mature manner. It was expected. Women were often associated with helplessness. Even simple things such as fairy tales demonstrate these ideas. The shift back to a more equal society is a relatively new idea, with many parts of the world still having the patriarchal ideal still deeply ingrained. Most of the world, in fact. (Because, lol, China and India make up, like, half the world population.) As time passes, I'm sure the world will be more equal. But as of now, patriarchal remnants remain, and are influential over many people's minds even today. One cannot deny that. I'm not sure if I explained too clearly. :-/ But yeah, that's it in a nutshell. It's a lot more complicated, but I'm not a history professor, so I don't know too much about this stuff. Just what I picked over world history and etc. I didn't need the history lesson, considering I'm actually studying it right now. I would like to point out, though, that 'having a backbone' doesn't equal masculinity. There are MANY cultures where the woman was expected to have one as well, yes, even in the past where women were considered subservient. I won't deny influence, though. I'll deny you have to consider it as natural, or defend such values. In fact, I would argue that since our ancestors supported equality, this patriarchal thing is actually UN-natural, and something our culture forced upon us and, it is only in the modern day that we are returning to the natural values. Especially considering that we were more or less forced into agriculture and sedentary lifestyles in the first place. Narcissistic males you find in frat houses are foolishly perceived as "masculine" and yet they're among the most immature bastards you'll know. That is all. This. So much this. Edited April 4, 2014 by Aqua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 oh boy here we go So what? Are you taking pride in that, now? There seems to be a gap between what you say and what you do, and I'm not sure if you realize it's there Necessarily. It might not be a conscious choice. It might be a choice others have made for you. However, it's a choice nonetheless. O-okay. I'll stop. N-no. ;n; Oh, I'm realize all right. All too much... ... ... But if it's not conscious choice, can it truly be considered a choice? I didn't need the history lesson, considering I'm actually studying it right now. I would like to point out, though, that 'having a backbone' doesn't equal masculinity. There are MANY cultures where the woman was expected to have one as well, yes, even in the past where women were considered subservient. I won't deny influence, though. I'll deny you have to consider it as natural, or defend such values. In fact, I would argue that since our ancestors supported equality, this patriarchal thing is actually UN-natural, and something our culture forced upon us and, it is only in the modern day that we are returning to the natural values. Especially considering that we were more or less forced into agriculture and sedentary lifestyles in the first place. Eh. I don't know. I haven't put too much thought into these kind of stuff. I guess it depends on what the definition of "natural" hinges on, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I guess it depends on what the definition of "natural" hinges on, maybe? I'd guess it's more of the subjective and circumstantial nature of things. Since it's a change, it's of course unnatural to what came before it, and will most certainly be to what will come after it, which in itself will be unnatural to the middle stage. For the better or the worse. Unless you think that if the change has a coherent progression, then you could say it's a natural change. Unless you think that too is subjective. Edited April 4, 2014 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 what is this are you being sarcastic or something of me. I skimmed over the posts and skipped the ones that weren't by Ein. If I were being sarcastic it would had been obvious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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