Kriemhild Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Lunar negates defense, right? But in FE5, it also activates when you use stuff that aren't swords. So what I was wondering was whether Lunar ignores enemy Resistance (Magic stat) when used by a Magic User. I think it most likely does but I wanna be sure and I can't check it myself (never got the Lunar Manual). Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I've been wondering this too. According to the site it says "Negates the enemy's defences, always hits". I'm guessing this means yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Pretty sure it does. Galzus/Zwei can easily get higher damage with their magic swords for instance, and I believe Holyn could too in FE 4. EDIT: Confirmed. It does work. 20 MT Galzus did 20 damage on Beldo after Moonlight. Edited September 10, 2009 by Isabella Valentine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 So I guess it just cuts out the part of the damage formula where something is subtracted? What happens if it triggers on someone buffed with Pure Water? I assume it ignores that too, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 So I guess it just cuts out the part of the damage formula where something is subtracted? What happens if it triggers on someone buffed with Pure Water? I assume it ignores that too, but you never know. No, you do. Pure water boosts Res (magic), just like magic tiles do. Luna ignores Res. ??? Full damage. I don't remember FE ever being complicated about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 So this means Lunar Skill completely negates both enemy defense AND resistance, even if the stats get some boost (magic tile, holy water, fire sword, etc)? Also, does the damage inflicted by Lunar = Strength/Magic + Might? Or is it like GBA Luna tome where Might is non-existent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) It's the ATK you see displayed which results from STR + MT. MT was nonexistent with the Dark tome Luna in the GBA games because the tome itself had no MT, not because its effect cancels out the weapon's MT, I think. Edited September 10, 2009 by ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 So this means Lunar Skill completely negates both enemy defense AND resistance, even if the stats get some boost (magic tile, holy water, fire sword, etc)? Also, does the damage inflicted by Lunar = Strength/Magic + Might? Or is it like GBA Luna tome where Might is non-existent? As Vincent wisely posted in his site: Negates the enemy's defences, always hits It isn't complicated at all. It's the ATK you see displayed which results from STR + MT. MT was nonexistent with the Dark tome Luna in the GBA games because the tome itself had no MT, not because its effect cancels out the weapon's MT, I think. Correct, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It isn't complicated at all. Apparently not, or someone wouldn't post asking about it. "Defences" is a confusing term because there is a stat called "Defense" and that stat only applies to physical attacks. It's a valid thing to clarify, as was my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It isn't complicated at all. Apparently not, or someone wouldn't post asking about it. "Defences" is a confusing term because there is a stat called "Defense" and that stat only applies to physical attacks. It's a valid thing to clarify, as was my question. The fact someone asks about something doesn't mean that thing has suddenly become complex, confusing or complicated. Physical defense and magic defense = defenses. Simple and precise. In before formula nitpicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Except there is no stat called "magic defense" in FE5. Many people are unaware that MAG actually pulls double duty to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Except there is no stat called "magic defense" in FE5. Many people are unaware that MAG actually pulls double duty to begin with. There is no "except." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Except there is no stat called "magic defense" in FE5. Many people are unaware that MAG actually pulls double duty to begin with. There is no "except." There are some people who have not read some of the more in-depth subsections of the site. I know what "magic defense" means in FE terms, I know what the Luna skill does, but it's entirely possible that other people won't because FE5 behaves differently and they don't read every little part of the site. You don't need to act patronizing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Maybe they should read the instruction manual included in the game instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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