Ϲharlie Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I don't like either of them, but I think Ewan is somewhat less bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 amelia, I guess I just like lance users more. and I like Lute to much, so ewan always ends up with me as a Druid or summoner (which I don't like since they are too slow). usually, Amelia will be my paladin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow. This is pathetic. HOW THE HELL IS AMELIA BETTER? She gets a fricking 0 AS with javelins and Ewan has 1-2 range consistanty. None of you Amelia supporters has presented a valid argument. Lightbrand, we said no tower abuse. So that argument is not valid. Ewan can train by ranging the enemies without being countered and can successfully doubled. Hell, if we validate tower abuse, Ewan's end stats as a Druid pwn Amelia. Anyone who voted Amelia because she can become a GK or Super Recruit obviously needs to learn. This is about Ewan DRUID vs Amelia Paladin. @Amelia about who people like. When the hell was this a popularity contest. Anyone who voted Amelial because of preference not because of skill deserves a facepalm. @Lightbrand about supports. A with each other/Ross B with the other. Where is the need for anything else? Amelia has the crappiest affinity out of them so that's a negative for her. As Battler would say: It's no good! No good at all! Present a valid argument. As far as I see no one on Amelia's side has put an argument worth thinking about. I really see this as a popoularity contest. In a debate so far Amelia would have got WTFRaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 amelia, I guess I just like lance users more. and I like Lute to much, so ewan always ends up with me as a Druid or summoner (which I don't like since they are too slow). usually, Amelia will be my paladin. Good job. Nice thinking./sarcasm. Ewan at 10/20/20 as a druid has higher speed than Amelia. None of you can back a single thing with a logical fact. I'm sorry since when was 26 speed slow? Paladin's are even slower. Hell, Ewan can use excalibur due to prior training. 31 speed, Amelia? she isn't using garm as a paladin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 >.> I voted Amelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Reasons. Actually they are roughly equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 So 0 AS is roughly equal to 5? I see nothing to suggest that. He WTFPwns her in stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 But they're both bad. =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 BUT Ewan is BETTER. No one on Amelia's side has procured good reasons and yet people voted for her. She hasn't presented any evidence so anyone who voted already for Amelia doesn't know anything. Treat this like a debate as mentioned earlier, Amelia didn't do a debate because she knew she would get majorly pwnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) So 0 AS is roughly equal to 5? I see nothing to suggest that. He WTFPwns her in stats. I never have her use Javelins. >.> Amelia!Cav/Pally Average stats: /20/46.2/21.45/24.8/25/29.5/17.1/14.05 Ewan!Mage/Sage Average stats: /20/43.5/25.15/21.8/23.45/28.5/11.05/25 Hp: Amelia Str/Mag: Ewan Skill: Amelia Spd: Amelia Luk: Amelia Def: Amelia Res: Ewan >.>;; I'm talking about overall use. Edited December 16, 2009 by AstraLunaSol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'm sorry. But how the hell do you train her without a tower if you don't use javelins? Also it's druid. Anyways stats are off if it's 20/20/20 Amelia's stats 20 46.2 21.45 24.8 25 29.5 17.1 14.05 Ewan's stats 20 43.5 26.15 20.8 25.45 28.5 10.05 25.8 HP Amelia by 2.7 STR Ewan by 4.7 SKL Amelia by 4 SPD Ewan by 0.45 LUK Amelia by 1 DEF Amelia by 7.05 RES Ewan by 11.75 HP Amelia STR Ewan SKL Amelia SPD Ewan LUK Amelia DEF Amelia RES Ewan 1 point of luck is insubstancial as is 0.45 speed. 11.75 resistance is huge compared to 7.05 defense especially due to Riev, Lyon, and Formiitis. Ewan is WTFpwning her is str. Wow 2.7 health, that's amazing in final chapters when she's recieving 12 more damage per hit from the substancial enemies. Ewan will dodge the physical units with ease while the magical units are more powerful. So you haven't presented good enough logic there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'm sorry. But how the hell do you train her without a tower if you don't use javelins? Also it's druid. Anyways stats are off if it's 20/20/20 Amelia's stats 20 46.2 21.45 24.8 25 29.5 17.1 14.05 Ewan's stats 20 43.5 26.15 20.8 25.45 28.5 10.05 25.8 HP Amelia by 2.7 STR Ewan by 4.7 SKL Amelia by 4 SPD Ewan by 0.45 LUK Amelia by 1 DEF Amelia by 7.05 RES Ewan by 11.75 HP Amelia STR Ewan SKL Amelia SPD Ewan LUK Amelia DEF Amelia RES Ewan 1 point of luck is insubstancial as is 0.45 speed. 11.75 resistance is huge compared to 7.05 defense especially due to Riev, Lyon, and Formiitis. Ewan is WTFpwning her is str. Wow 2.7 health, that's amazing in final chapters when she's recieving 12 more damage per hit from the substancial enemies. Ewan will dodge the physical units with ease while the magical units are more powerful. So you haven't presented good enough logic there either. Too many promotion branches, you should have specified. Getting RNG blessed is fun. ^__^ Also, people have opinions, accept them. Ooh 5 str, Also the only reason for the spd is because of the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The origin came from a paladin vs druid. The cap matters. If a unit can't go higher because of it's caps it's the unit's fault. Since when was a level 1 pirate with 20 stregnth better than a 22 str zerker? Treat it like a debate was specified. RNG blessage is ignored. I know people have opinions but I would like to see backing to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) The origin came from a paladin vs druid. The cap matters. If a unit can't go higher because of it's caps it's the unit's fault. Since when was a level 1 pirate with 20 stregnth better than a 22 str zerker? Treat it like a debate was specified. RNG blessage is ignored. I know people have opinions but I would like to see backing to them. Ah. You tell me now that it is Druid and Pally, specify on the poll. It might make a difference. =/ You are asking how I leveled her without Javs....... Personal preference, telling someone is better just because their stats are better, might not make a difference. Perhaps they like them for a different reason. Edited December 16, 2009 by AstraLunaSol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Treat it like a debate.... I didn't make the topic so sue me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Shut up, BK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Why? It is a debate. I am presenting evidence. In a debate I don't say shut up when the other person presents evidence. I try to counter it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Nobody cares. Shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Then don't post here or read my posts. I am waiting for a fair argument. I made a deal if she could convince me I would heal Amelia to 50 in a hurt and heal game. She hasn't presented any arguments yet. You still are doing it. Ignore this topic then instead of posting "shut up". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephinel Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Nephinel thinks that debates concerning Fire Emblem characters should go into the debates section in the General Fire Emblem forum, if you are going to be serious about it. :P Besides, Nephinel thinks that Ross is the best out of the three Trainee classes. Edited December 16, 2009 by Nephinel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I asked Amelia but she didn't do it. I agree with you completely but she wanted a poll of people who put personal opinion ahead of real debating. As far as I am concerned she is losing as she hasn't presented any evidence and has said "No, I want to know who is the one everybody like more." which is in contradiction to the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Amelia isn't presenting any evidence because she doesn't care. Shut up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephinel Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 In that case, Nephinel likes Amelia more than Ewan. She is just so adorable. Great Knight Amelia is such an adorable bruiser, Nephinel can't say no to that. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Then ask her why SHE made this thread. Stop telling me to shut up as it is ineffectual. I actually had a high opinion of you until now. It's PALADIN AMELIA NOT GREAT KNIGHT! It's also not preference but why a unit is better. Cute does not qualify. Edited December 16, 2009 by BlackKnight666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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