The Wandering Mercenary Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I've never used either of the two units, but I wanted to know what other people thought about them. Any why do you think one would be better than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus, since his --/20 averages put him ahead of Isadora in hp, strength, skill, defense, and resistance. Although Isadora has an easier time doubling, I find her to be a bit troublesome to work with. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus joins with his base stats in Chapter 12. Isadora joins with her base stats in Chapter 22 after Marcus got to build supports and be the best character in the game for basically that whole time. Marcus is clearly better. Might even be the best unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus joins with his base stats in Chapter 12. Isadora joins with her base stats in Chapter 22 after Marcus got to build supports and be the best character in the game for basically that whole time. Marcus is clearly better. Might even be the best unit. Marcus for Fe7!Seth--*shot* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Well, Marcus has worse stats than Seth, but his supports are arguably better since he can get +25 Evd while Seth typically gets +12 and the enemies in his game are weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus is better for the reasons Roxas stated, he also has better growth everywhere aside HP, SPEED (Isadora doubles his Spd growth), Luck & Def. Marcus will double most enemies early game, he has more Atk and is quite useful on HHM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus joins with his base stats in Chapter 12. Isadora joins with her base stats in Chapter 22 after Marcus got to build supports and be the best character in the game for basically that whole time. Marcus is clearly better. Might even be the best unit. What. Maybe "most useful" But not "best unit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Well, Marcus has worse stats than Seth, but his supports are arguably better since he can get +25 Evd while Seth typically gets +12 and the enemies in his game are weaker. So I think we may be on to something here... :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Divine Swordmaster Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Isadora has a speed lead but con issues make it pointless, meh strength, that and her def is pretty bad. Being a pre-promote gives her even less potenial as it is. Marcus's greatest useage is in early game where he's like a guardian for the team. Some even say he's good enough for midgame and endgame. So I think Marcus takes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Isadora is good. I am by no means stating she is bad. Marcus just slaughters her and almost everyone else. Most useful = best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Most useful = best. Ehhhh... Perhaps it does to you, but that's not the general usage. The most important thing in these debates is to be specific so that everybody doesn't use different definitions and standards. I like how there are nine votes for Marcus in the poll right now and none for Isadora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I voted Isadora, for no particular reason. She is the only female Paladin in the GBA games, she gets a custom battle sprite (don't mention Amelia in FE8, she's ugly, weak and should go with GK). That is a good enough reason for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Mercenary Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Although Marcus does seem to have better stats (and apparent popularity), I think Isadora still has a chance to be a good unit. I have not gotten her to Lv. 20 before, but she has about the same HP and Str as Marcus, statistically speaking. Her strength is just as good as Marcus', but she has a lower base. Her avoid can be +25 over Marcus', and she has a better chance at dodging criticals. Although that may not be enough to convince anyone to change their opinion of her, I still think she could be as great as Marcus could be. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why did IS feel the need to give Isadora 6 CON? I mean, Amelia got 9 CON as a Cavalier. I would use her every time if not for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Ehhhh... Perhaps it does to you, but that's not the general usage. The most important thing in these debates is to be specific so that everybody doesn't use different definitions and standards. I like how there are nine votes for Marcus in the poll right now and none for Isadora. Unless your standard is "Link Arena" than being the most useful unit makes you the best unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why did IS feel the need to give Isadora 6 CON? Sadism. Her only real advantage over Marcus is with her speed, and that 6 Con means she won't be able to exploit that speed advantage unless she always uses an iron sword...which incidentally makes her too weak to do much damage at all to enemies with her lacking strength. It's cool that you get a female paladin, it's a shame that they made her the worst and the latest-joining of the four paladins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Sadism. Her only real advantage over Marcus is with her speed, and that 6 Con means she won't be able to exploit that speed advantage unless she always uses an iron sword...which incidentally makes her too weak to do much damage at all to enemies with her lacking strength. It's cool that you get a female paladin, it's a shame that they made her the worst and the latest-joining of the four paladins. ^This. A MILLION TIMES THIS. Except it should be five paladins: Marcus, Lowen, Sain, Kent, + Isadora. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Unless your standard is "Link Arena" than being the most useful unit makes you the best unit. Maybe that is my standard. Or maybe my standard is to judge units without considering their potential after recruitment, the way Sedgar the Hero often does. In either case, 'best' is an ambiguous term between us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Except it should be five paladins: Marcus, Lowen, Sain, Kent, + Isadora. :P You're right, I was thinking Sain and Kent were a single paladin as I wrote that post. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Also, Marcus is only most useful for several chapters after you get him. The port of badon chapter is probably one of the last chapters he is necessary in, and then after that he makes a good bodyguard for Merlinus. Lets face it, you're other characters are probably all gonna trump Marcus once they're promoted, so basically you're wasting exp on him when other units with more potential want it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 He's still really awesome for a long time before Isadora even existed and if he's worse than her after she joins, it's not by much. He's probably gonna be better since her most important win over him is Spd, but FE7 has the slowest enemies out of any FE, and Marcus has had alot of time to get supports and a level lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 He's still really awesome for a long time before Isadora even existed and if he's worse than her after she joins, it's not by much. He's probably gonna be better since her most important win over him is Spd, but FE7 has the slowest enemies out of any FE, and Marcus has had alot of time to get supports and a level lead. Of course, not counting the 0 AS revanants of FE8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 0 AS Revenants basically just replace loldiers for one earlygame chapter. FE8 ends up with faster enemies because more of the enemies at endgame are promoted and not wielding Steel weapons. Even in VoD, FE7 has like 3 or 4 unpromoted weighed down enemies for every promoted enemy on the map. FE8 doesn't do this in Last Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus is good for the entire game besides Light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Marcus is good for the entire game besides Light. I beg to differ. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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