riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I'd like to make a formal request (read: calm rant). Forges should get +15 bonuses total back, or at LEAST +10. Think about it. They can have, at most, 20 might, and only +5 total bonuses. And then we have the Holy Weapons, which have 30 might and +THIRTY BONUSES total (Ichival has 20 but also gives Life skill). When there was +15, it was at least reasonably close, but when the forges got nerfed to +5 total, it becomes outright slaughter. People without Holy Weapons have virtually no chance against those who do have them. Think about it, and tell me this: How fair is that? Well, it's not fair. Not even close. @Furetchen: Hey, you're back! Good thing, too. Nice avatar btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Please no, that was the thing that caused most shitstorms in this thread Why can't people just settle with their broken 40 Str/Spd Def caps already? *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Some people have awful defense caps, and unless you have a holy weapon, you're pretty much doomed to be mediocre at best forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Know you're not. How many times do I have to explain it? It isn't NECESARY, it's not like you're fighting any of the broken dudes with holy weapons. And generics don't have stats above 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 It's not necessary to nerf them, either then. They can still damage me a lot though. And some do have stats above 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) -Forging Rules- Sword/Wind: 15MT 100Hit Crit10 Lance/Thunder: 16MT 90Hit Crit15 Axe/Fire/Dark: 17MT 80Hit Crit5 Light: 17MT 90Hit Crit0 Bows: 16MT 95Hit Crit10 Braves may be forged TO A DEGREE. Those are...... Sword/Bow:11MT 95Hit Crit5 Lance: 12MT 90Hit Crit5 Axe: 13MT 85Hit Crit5 unless, I can't read (which is a high possibility here), all forges do have at least 15 MT, except braves, but if you count both hits, then that is over 15 MT. Edited March 19, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I was talking about stat bonuses, which are so useful in the empires it's not even funny. Holy weapons get +30 total where forges get +5, and all Holy Weapons have 30 might. THIRTY. MIGHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) wait wait wait, why does forging give you a stat bonus?! All it does is increase/decrease the stats of your weapon. Unless you're taking about the holy blood thing: here Edit: Isn't the general purpose of forging to improve your weapon where you lack in stats anyhow?! Edited March 19, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) It's not necessary to nerf them, either then. They can still damage me a lot though. And some do have stats above 30. They aren't being nerfed, thet are even getting buffed. Why can't you just settle with them? They have very high Mt & Hit, sure, not in comparison to the others...but that is also because you didn't decide to distibute your stats well, instead, you chose the typical, the three things EVERYONE wants, awesome Str/Spd and along with that goes Avo. You probably haven't heard what BK said, they were nerfed when Joshy made them above 30. Edited March 19, 2010 by Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I was talking about stat bonuses, which are so useful in the empires it's not even funny. Holy weapons get +30 total where forges get +5, and all Holy Weapons have 30 might. THIRTY. MIGHT. Know you're not. How many times do I have to explain it? It isn't NECESARY, it's not like you're fighting any of the broken dudes with holy weapons. That. Do you have an enemy with a holy weapon? No, you are allied to Oujay's and Rokkenjima's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!/dev/haru Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The SNES/GBA games don't require a good computer. Oh, I dunno, my old laptop from 10 years ago had some trouble with GBA games sometimes. `-` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Edit: Isn't the general purpose of forging to improve your weapon where you lack in stats anyhow?! In the Empires? The general purpose of forging is to make a good weapon in EVERY area that you can. They give +5 to stats for... I dunno why, but they do. ^No (I hope)... but it makes you pathetic in comparison to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) In the Empires? The general purpose of forging is to make a good weapon in EVERY area that you can. They give +5 to stats for... I dunno why, but they do. ^No (I hope)... but it makes you pathetic in comparison to them. weapons: mt, crit, weight, range, uses...ok, only mt, crit, weight can be changed. Sorry, hit is here too... most weapons don't give stat boosts. Some do, but some, there is no purpose to. side note: hello haru. Edited March 19, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Oh, I dunno, my old laptop from 10 years ago had some trouble with GBA games sometimes. `-` Yeah but we're talking about a laptop from ten years ago. My desktop from 10 years ago was capable of running the GBA games and that's with 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, although I will say...For a computer that was from 2000 it had a pretty damn good processor which was a 3.1ghz single core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!/dev/haru Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yeah but we're talking about a laptop from ten years ago. My desktop from 10 years ago was capable of running the GBA games and that's with 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, although I will say...For a computer that was from 2000 it had a pretty damn good processor which was a 3.1ghz single core. You failed to detect the irony. And my laptop had integrated graphics, 256MB RAM, and I don't even remember how bad the processor was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) ancient computers running computer games...*dies laughing* Edited March 19, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 You failed to detect the irony. That even your 10 year old laptop could run GBA games despite having some problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!/dev/haru Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 That even your 10 year old laptop could run GBA games despite having some problems? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Oh wtf Rein, I could REMOVE the plus 5 dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Gee, that would be fair, wouldn't it? Ahahahahaha not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 I'd like to make a formal request (read: calm rant). Forges should get +15 bonuses total back, or at LEAST +10. Think about it. They can have, at most, 20 might, and only +5 total bonuses. And then we have the Holy Weapons, which have 30 might and +THIRTY BONUSES total (Ichival has 20 but also gives Life skill). When there was +15, it was at least reasonably close, but when the forges got nerfed to +5 total, it becomes outright slaughter. People without Holy Weapons have virtually no chance against those who do have them. Think about it, and tell me this: How fair is that? Well, it's not fair. Not even close. @Furetchen: Hey, you're back! Good thing, too. Nice avatar btw. There are not enough emotes allowed to describe how many facepalms we would direct at this. We already covered it, the Holy Weapons are legal, no forges are not getting bonuses. I'm pretty sure we also stated no repeating already covered material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Gee, that would be fair, wouldn't it? Ahahahahaha not even close. You completely missed my point. @BK: There is only one facepalm that works, the Roxaspalm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 hi als, bk. sorry if i made the argument worst today :(. byes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 There is only one facepalm that works, the Roxaspalm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!/dev/haru Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I'm keeping the forges I've already made with bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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