Scarlet Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well damn. Beat the Tristis Mountain without any further difficulties now. Beat the swamp with one death because I didn't remember those Une thingies who explode in your face if you don't see them coming. The mansion didn't go so well. Albus killed me, like, I stopped counting how often. Some 15 or 20-ish times. At first I wanted to fight him normally. Strike that, it doesn't work. Then I tried to spam QI like I read here. Either I did something utterly wrong, or his AI has been modified in the PAL version; either way, he QI'd out of my way literally every single time and chained this with his other attacks. Needless to say, it didn't work. In the end, I beat him by spamming the good ol' Rapid Fire + Backdash Cancel, allowing me to react to nearly all his attacks instantly. I also abused his AI in a way that he'd nearly always QI right over me without doing any harm. And now I'm stuck at Barlowe. Again, I stopped counting how many times he already killed me. More often than Albus did, that's for sure. I can get to his second phase, but then he suddenly either starts spamming that fire attack while directly next to a wall (and I haven't found a way to dodge it yet when that happens), or he starts his punches directly after using another attack, again leaving me unable to properly react to the first punch. Time: 2:25:53 Gold: 12000 Completion: 54.5%, IIRC HP: 288 Hearts: 140 MP: Who even cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) At any rate, Dracula defeated. Also, my death count probably rolled over into 4 digits, so before you start thinking I'm a master platformer or anything, just correct that notion to I am very diligent and very stubborn. Oh come now, that's gotta be a huge exaggeration.I don't believe I reached 200 deaths and you've achieved all endings in Zero Mission while I've not. This was a fabulous challenge, and I am ashamed I put it off for so long. Cool. If you've got Metroid Prime 1 then you should try a Hard-No-Tank-5-Missile Run. Ice Troopers will easily become your favorite of the bunch. Took me a good while to take down Omega Pirate cause he kept summoning Wave Troopers =\ And now I'm stuck at Barlowe. Again, I stopped counting how many times he already killed me. More often than Albus did, that's for sure. I can get to his second phase, but then he suddenly either starts spamming that fire attack while directly next to a wall (and I haven't found a way to dodge it yet when that happens), or he starts his punches directly after using another attack, again leaving me unable to properly react to the first punch. Jump + Ignis or teleporting is how I dealt with his fire attack. Against his STUPID DISCIPLE attack, you can perform a 1-button dodge with a well time Ignis while just standing still. There's strategies and ideas on how to combat the bosses scattered all over the topic. Find those and beating Death = Beat this challenge. Dracula's a mere footnote with the lock I found on him. Edited November 29, 2011 by Sirius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 MP: Who even cares Do you know how many times I died because of not having enough MP to keep shielding myself with Optical Max Shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Do you know how many times I died because of not having enough MP to keep shielding myself with Optical Max Shot? Eh, I guess. I have enough MP at this point to not run out unless I just stand there and spam Rapid Fire, in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You guess? I have less than half Bal's MP!! That's a lot bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Yeah, fine. Cut me some slack, will ya? D: Beat Barlowe with 11 HP left, entered Dracula's castle, found my way to Blackmore, and got owned. I don't like how quickly I do now hit roadblock after roadblock. Blackmore's pattern is freaking silly, and cheesing my way through him with QI doesn't work because he for some reason almost always instantly hits me when he turns around. Is there something I'm missing, or will I actually have to go through the trouble of learning his pattern again? I also feel like I'm hitting everything with a water pistol lol. When hitting a weakness, Optical Shot deals 33 damage, Max Shot deals 31 and Rapid Fire deals 14. Not sure about QI and lol @ Torpor. How many HP does Blackmore have anyway? HP: 328 Hearts: 150 MP: Enough Edited November 30, 2011 by Shade of Shadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Blackmore's pattern is freaking silly, and cheesing my way through him with QI doesn't work because he for some reason almost always instantly hits me when he turns around. Is there something I'm missing, or will I actually have to go through the trouble of learning his pattern again? I also feel like I'm hitting everything with a water pistol lol. When hitting a weakness, Optical Shot deals 33 damage, Max Shot deals 31 and Rapid Fire deals 14. Not sure about QI and lol @ Torpor. How many HP does Blackmore have anyway? I never learned Blackmore's pattern my first playthrough (Shanoa normal), I just soaked the hits like a bitch because the Blackmore room really limits your maneuverability and I hated it. As for the QI trick, it is kind of finicky. It took me awhile before I figured out exactly how to get it to work, as often I'd been timing it wrong, and he would turn around and own my shit when I wasn't ready, or I would jump through into an attack. You have to pay a lot more attention than you might originally suspect because his different patterns have different lengths associated with them. The key really was what Obviam said. You need to wait until he's completted his little pirouette thing with his arms (Maybe not the right terminology, but there's this flourish he does before beginning his next pattern. The flourish is always the same even if the upcoming attacks differ.) And yeah, it's really nickling and diming the bosses from here on out. IIRC Blackmore has 5k HP, Eligor has 3k HP, but you have to want to take out the crossbows first, which probably have 1k HP of their own (never measured). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Blackmore's pattern is really easy to learn. Just learn it and beat him like a man, like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) I never learned Blackmore's pattern in HL1CANNN or HL1CSNNN. He was cheesable in both and I don't have any patience. Also Bal if you were okay with cheesing, you might feel bad to know that there is a way to completely cheese Eligor. In fact I'm not sure why you were dealing with the crossbows anyway, because you can just warp behind him and warp out of their way etc. Edited November 30, 2011 by Obviam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Gave up on Blackmore and took a different path in the castle instead, leading me to Eligor. Got owned by Eligor as well, so I went back and took yet another path, leading me to Death. Somehow, I beat Death on my 6th try (with no damage taken, no less!). I didn't do much except spam Optical Shot and block most of his attacks with well-timed QIs, and I'm honestly surprised how quickly he died to a weakish Lv1 Albus. Went back to fight Blackmore, got owned some more. Then, after I don't know how many tries, Blackmore just suddenly... ...died. He didn't go "that was quite entertaining" at all, he just died. Eh, that's cool, I guess. Eligor still owns me, though. I can't teleport onto him, I can't teleport behind him, and even if I do it the old-fashioned way until I get onto his back the "legit" way, he kills me more quickly than I can even fire a Max Shot. Now, after like 50 deaths, I've had enough of this, and am going to look up a video on YouTube to find the most efficient way to beat him. Oh yeah, I took a short look into Great Cave and Training Room as well. Fuck those, they're bloody impossible. Didn't check my stats this time, but from memory: Time: Roughly 4:25:00 Gold: 18000 Completion: 88.8% HP: 368 Hearts: 170 MP: Not quite enough for Eligor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Just use Hextator's exploit for Eligor. It's really quite easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I beat Death on my 6th try All of the jelly, all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 What ex... ...oh. I missed that. Damn, that would've saved me a headache. Anyway, I beat Eligor on my own now. At first I came up with a completely flawless plan, consisting of destroying the front crossbow and then abusing his AI so that he'd always do the 5x stab attack with his sword, allowing me to do up to three L-Jumps chained with a Max Shot against his head. Turns out that Eligor is a cheater and has infinite HP as long as Albus hasn't been on his back. I've literally been pounding on him like half an hour this way, dealing at least five times his HP's worth of damage, and he just wouldn't die. It seems that the damage dealt this way isn't even counted, as even after I started dealing damage to him the "legit" way afterwards, he did not die to my first attack. Beat him the "normal" way after like 100 tries. Did I mention that I hate this boss? Made my way to Dracula, and actually started avoiding enemies more than fighting them. A Lv1 Albus just can't reasonably deal with cave trolls, lizard blades, final guards and all that other crap when there's hardly any room to dodge. Speaking of Dracula, I pretty much roflstomp his first phase, then die the instant he uses his bat wave. I never did figure out how to dodge that attack (it hits me even if I duck), and due to the fact that it ignores mercy invincibility, it's pretty much an instakill. Gave up on that for now, I can't concentrate anymore. Time: 4:54:11 Gold: 18000 Completion: 94.4% HP: 368 Hearts: 190 MP: 15 L-Jumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 You should never see the bat attack if you make him cancel it. Which is cheap as fuck, but whatevs Also the dog attack is worse in this mode because they're hard to kill, whereas if you memorize where to duck you can actually survive the bat attack. Fortunately you can make the fucker cancel both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 You can cancel... ...oh. Right, I remember having seen that in a YouTube video. I hope the timing for not getting hit by his cape swipe isn't too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well, it's a bit tricky, but it works. Beat Dracula, and thus this challenge. I think my fingers hurt a little now. Aside from a few really jerkish bosses, this challenge was really fun though! Final time: 5:01:02 (yeah, I took the longest. Whatever.) Completion: 94.6% (not 100% as planned, but like hell am I gonna go through the two bonus dungeons with Albus on Hard Lv1.) Gold: 18000 HP: 368 Hearts: 190 MP: 15 L-Jumps Attack strength (when hitting a weakness): Optical Shot: 35 Max Shot: 33 Rapid Fire: 14 Quadruple Ignis: 54 Torpor: lolTorpor Next challenge, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Eh? Training Hall should be piss easy. For Large Cavern, all the doors open after a while even if the enemies aren't dead, so you can just dodge all day. Tin man rooms will be the hardest. Demon rooms, you might be able to wait for the door to open before spawning them, but if not those might be hard too. That said, fuck it. Edited December 1, 2011 by Obviam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Eh? Training Hall should be piss easy. I got to the part with the flaming skull rings. There are no platforms there, L-jumping upwards will just give you about 300 damage for running into one of the skulls, and Albus doesn't have the Magnes glyph. Is there another painfully obvious way to get past them that I'm missing? For Large Cavern, all the doors open after a while even if the enemies aren't dead, so you can just dodge all day. Tin man rooms will be the hardest. I know, but the first room is hard enough to survive in, what with all those robots basically making it impossible for you to touch the floor (the cave trolls aren't helping). And I don't have enough MP to camp on the ceiling for a whole minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Not on Hard Mode, but it's kinda hilarious to see what Albus is really capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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