mistergreg Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Over the past couple days, i was able to learn how to create maps, insert them, as well as how to insert music. The problem is, I am HORRIBLE with mapping. So far i have inserted 2 maps, the first was fairly decent, the second was horrific. The first one was a simple river near a castle, with some nearby forrest. The second was the interior of said castle, and it just came out WRONG. I started working on a third map, but this is where i realized how bad i am. I cannot figure out how to make a simple mountain, even following existing maps as examples i can't do it. The tilesets i was able to find look mostly jumbled up in both mapping programs i have (mappy, tiled) and i simply can't get a feel for them. I also have a problem with the grass patterns. You know, to make the maps not boring? I always end up repeating a pattern, or it will look differently once i actually put the map into the game. (like how some tiles in the castle map clashed fine in the editor, but looked like shit together in the actual game) I was hoping to find a tutorial somewhere on map design, but all i came across were some vague tips, nothing that helped me. Since i don't want my hack to be filled with mediocre maps thoughout, I was wondering if anybody knows of a tutorial that could help me, or has some more specific tips for my issue. For now, I will keep practicing. Mostly its frustrating how some tiles are so similar to each other, yet so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The mountain tiles are not as jumbled as you think.They are organized around a somewhat-consistent pattern, you just need to become aware of it. Then you need to realize how, if you're wanting to imitate, the games actually use these tiles to create a span of mountains. If you're worried over the plain grass tile, there is actaully only one or two, or something like that. The rest are very finely-shaded "hilly" tiles where the terrain is warped (FE4 had these more pronounced). One thing you can do is to create a small patch of a design that you agree with, then select that patch and paint it all over the map, alternating now and then to shake up the repetition, if any is noticeable. Your best method to learning is, again, if you want to emulate the style of the actual games, is to see how their maps are comprised. Beyond that, do a sketch-version of the map where you place a single generic tile for what you want, then go back and detail over things once you think you have what you want. Some people prefer this method overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Post your maps in the spriting sections (export as bmp, upload to image host, post forum code) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm stunned nobody has suggested reading my buddy Prime's mapping tutorial. It's a ton of help for fledgling mappers! I only gave the link to the tutorial on my site because I can't find the one on SF, assuming it's even here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm stunned nobody has suggested reading my buddy Prime's mapping tutorial. It's a ton of help for fledgling mappers! I only gave the link to the tutorial on my site because I can't find the one on SF, assuming it's even here? I find it hilarious that you linked us to a tutorial hosted on your forum that requires us to register to see the images. Hm, I can't imagine why... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Wait, really? Well fuck. That must be because of Forumotion. And instead of a pointless troll post, you might have tried linking to the tutorial on this site, assuming it's here. Edited April 14, 2012 by Klokinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Wait, really? Well fuck. That must be because of Forumotion. And instead of a pointless troll post, you might have tried linking to the tutorial on this site, assuming it's here. You should probably take your own advice... you're not really helping just by doing that then. Geez. @OP: Here you go. Primefusion's mapping tutorial. Edited April 14, 2012 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Like I knew it was in the spriting section. I already searched the forum and checked the tutorials forum thoroughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7K Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I could help you make maps if you tell me what you want (castle, plains etc.) and what should be in them (chests, rivers, mountains). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Like I knew it was in the spriting section. I already searched the forum and checked the tutorials forum thoroughly. Juuuuuust sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Juuuuuust sayin' That actually didn't work. You just had to search for "Primefusion tutorial" and set it to display "posts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 It came up with Spriters Resource for me :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistergreg Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Thanks guys, thats the exact kind of thing I was looking for! This is going to really help me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7K Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 So you don't need help anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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