TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Dunno if this has been done before, but whatever. My first challenge run. Playing Awakening with a few rules. [spoiler=FE4 rules I'm using] 1. All pairings must be done before entering ch. 14. (Halfway point) 2. All characters will be recruited. All children characters will be recruited before ch. 15. Parent characters are allowed in all paralogues until 16. 3. Once all children are recruited, I can ONLY use children characters (and characters recruited after ch. 15) EXCEPT for Olivia as a non-combat dancer. Inigo can't be a dancer :( 3a. Obvious exceptions are Chrom (required on EVERY chapter) and Avatar (for ch. 23 and Endgame) 4. Parent characters are NOT allowed after ch. 15 (unless there are more than 14 deployment slots available.) 5. Each parent is allowed ONE "special" weapon. This weapon will be forged for 3 critical per 6 levels gained. Weapons are either passed down to the children or re-forged if broken. [Prepromotes start with +20 levels.] 6. No parent can use/pass down the lv. 15 promoted skill. (This corresponds to a total level of 35) 6a. Exception: Chrom's son, if he has one, will inherit Rightful King. [spoiler=Special rules] 1. Spotpass paralogues and Outrealm characters not allowed. Assume 1,000 Renown start. (10,000 Gold helps with forging.) 2. Risen skirmishes can be done once per cleared chapter/paralogue, up to ch. 12. After this, they are not restricted until ch. 15. 3. DLC is not allowed until the completion of ch. 12. DLC can be completed once per "generation." 4. Panne and Nowi must reclass at lv. 10. Donnel can reclass at lv. 15, but cannot promote. No other Second Seals are allowed for the parents. 4a. Children are allowed ONE Second seal. A character cannot exceed 30 levels as an unpromoted unit, 30 levels as a promoted unit. Manakete and Taguel children are not allowed to reclass. 5. Merchant shops are allowed until ch. 12. 6. Unpaired males WILL be killed off by Risen somehow. (No future for you, lol) 7. No forges except the ones specified above. No screenshots or video, just me talking strategy and fails. I guess that's all the special rules I can think of. If anyone has a suggestion, post here. Playing on Normal Classic (because I suck at strategy lol) Suggestions for pairings? Might start today(Aug. 1) or tomorrow. Avatar: Male EDIT: rules changed a little to avoid abuse and for clarification EDIT: trying to fix poll Edited August 2, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I would suggest pairings done by 11, because that's when Lucina is born and feels better as a generation-type gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) cherche doesn't arrive until ch. 12 though. also lucina can't be used until ch. 14Might I recommend HM? It's really not bad at all, while NM is way too easy. I suppose you'll have fun either way, though.Male Avatar. Edited August 2, 2013 by Phoenix Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Might I recommend HM? It's really not bad at all, while NM is way too easy. I suppose you'll have fun either way, though. I don't like hard mode. I keep forgetting where and when the reinforcements come out, and I somehow always lose someone to an ambush spawn. (This is why I stay on Casual) Also, I haven't done a full playthrough on Hard. I think I'll just breeze through this challenge run, and possibly try hard mode later. Edited August 2, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Male Avatar because 2 children to go more with the FE4 feel. And oh no, going by the rules, Henry is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) ...This looks like something I was thinking of just two minutes ago. Haha! I can't wait to read through this! Also, Konnor97, doesn't Henry join in Chapter 13? One chapter before the cutoff? (or did I misread?) Edited August 2, 2013 by Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Male Avatar because 2 children to go more with the FE4 feel. And oh no, going by the rules, Henry is doomed. Ah, that's a good point! Poll so far is going this way. ...This looks like something I was thinking of just two minutes ago. Haha! I can't wait to read through this! Also, Konnor97, doesn't Henry join in Chapter 13? One chapter before the cutoff? (or did I misread?) lol This run is actually something I wanted to do just on a whim. To both quoted above: Note that Risen grinding and DLC is not restricted after ch. 13, so I will be support grinding Henry if I decide to pair him. EDIT to avoid double post: Starting now with Male Avatar, just getting creation and premonition done. Will not be at computer until tomorrow, so possibly 1-2 chapters will be posted soon. Edited August 2, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) So I got an early head start. Avatar Name: Flynn Gender: Male Build 3 Face 4 Hair 5 Hair Color: 11? the light blue one Birthday: August 20 Asset/Flaw: +Spd/-Res Voice: Male 3, Language set to Japanese [spoiler=Premonition (2 turns)] No dual strike, but Chrom with Flynn pocket ORKOs. [spoiler=Prologue (5)] Got a Celica's Gale from the first event tile. Apparently the AI isn't too smart in Normal? The mage attacked Flynn instead of Frederick (Same resistance, Flynn had Thunder equipped.) No attacks missed this chapter. Flynn attacks boss, Frederick dual strikes to finish. [spoiler=Chapter 1 (4)] Got a Katarina's Bolt from the event tile in the fort. What's with all these tomes? Sully gets 2 kills, Virion gets 1. Fred dual strikes again to kill boss. [spoiler=Stats After Chapter 1] Name Class Lv.XP HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Chrom Lord 2.40 21 7 1 8 9 6 8 1 Flynn Tactician 3.66 20 6 6 6 8 4 8 4 Frederick(1.21), Lissa(1.75), Sully(2.60), and Virion(2.30) at base Edited August 2, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Oh, I was thinking with the Henry thing is because after Ch.13 is completed, the file technically says you're at Ch.14. So you're meaning marriage limit is when you actually enter the Ch.14 map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Oh, I was thinking with the Henry thing is because after Ch.13 is completed, the file technically says you're at Ch.14. So you're meaning marriage limit is when you actually enter the Ch.14 map? Yes. I consider the start of ch. 14 to be when you actually enter the map. I'm gonna make a slight change to the rules so I don't abuse them. -Second Seals are much more restricted. See OP for details. Also: New poll. Who should Chrom marry? Edited August 2, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Okay, for some reason, it's not letting me vote in the poll so... I pick Olivia. Why? Likely bad starting stats for Lucina, just like Seliph due to Deidre's bad stats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Hm, I can't vote either, but I say Village Maiden. Chrom only fathers one kid (like Sigurd), he meets some maiden and marries her and gets her pregnant fairly soon-like (like Deirdre). Edited August 3, 2013 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 OK, I think I have the poll fixed. Try voting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 and Lucina won't have the greatest base stats (like Seliph).in what universe does serlis not have amazing base stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) in what universe does serlis not have amazing base stats Oh, shoot, yeah. I was remembering completely wrong. I was remembering him having average-ish base stats. It's been a long time since I've played FE4, like, a year or something, and it's not one of those things that I've committed to memory. Edited August 3, 2013 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 in what universe does serlis not have amazing base stats Compared to the other children, I distinctly remember him having bad stats. ...Though, then again, since that was relatively, they could've been average, but only seemed bad. ...There was one run I had where Lana had higher strength that him. LANA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 even assuming base sigurd and base deidre, serlis has enough base stats to pretty much stomp all the enemies in his area the fact that he inherits a 50 kill silver sword/steel sword doesn't hurt matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) Here's an update! [spoiler=Chapter 2: 9 turns] I put Vaike in front of the axe user on the right. That way Miriel can trade Vaike's axe and attack on turn 2. ...Vaike then gets a dual strike critical. WHAT. (I think a 1% crit chance?) Took my time organizing items and such. Wasted like 3 turns getting everyone healed up. Got a Dying Blaze on the north event tile... THREE tomes in three chapters... Vaike with pocket Freddy doubles and kills boss. [spoiler=Chapter 3: 7 turns] Virion benched, Kellam recruited Moved Sully and Sumia right and Chrom left (to avoid supports) Cleaned the bottom in 2 turns Opened left door first (turn 3), then right door on turn 4 Hammer guy can 2HKO almost my entire team No item from event tiles this time... (Kellam got 27 EXP, Lissa got some staff WExp) Chrom crits boss, ends chapter [spoiler=Stats after ch. 3] Name Lv.XP HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Chrom 3.87 22 7 1 8 9 7 9 1 Flynn 4.36 21 7 7 7 8 5 9 4 Lissa 3.75 19 2 6 6 6 9 3 4 Frederick 1.25 28 13 2 12 10 6 14 3 Sully 3.80 20 8 2 8 9 7 7 2 Vaike 5.30 31 10 0 9 8 5 6 0 Stahl 3.26 23 8 0 7 7 5 9 1 Miriel 2.79 19 0 7 6 8 6 3 5 Sumia 1.74 18 6 3 11 11 8 5 7 Kellam 6.30 22 11 0 8 5 4 12 2 Virion 2.30 19 6 0 9 5 7 6 1 EDIT: Small update: Finished Paralogue 1, now starting to forge some weapons. Also found a double Risen battle at Arena Ferox, archer and pegasus knight. The archer is lv. 16... Details to come... (if I survive this...) Edited August 3, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcane43 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Double posting for an update [spoiler=Chapter 4: 8 turns] Moved Stahl, Miriel, and Flynn left, while Chrom, Vaike and Lissa went right. Took each enemy one turn at a time. Got a Shockstick from the top left event tile Chrom defeats Marth Opened up the Barracks... and got another Shockstick. Someone likes magic weapons... [spoiler=Paralogue 1: 11 turns] First turn: Flynn misses a 94%. Everyone charges in, got both chests. Lissa got a Glass Axe from the event tile. GUESS SHE WANTS WAR CLERIC Frederick misses a 68% on the boss. Lances < Axes Miriel with Flynn gets boss kill Donnel barely recruited (102 exp for him) Now here comes the hard part. Before Paralogue 1, there was a Risen(Archer) battle at Arena Ferox. After we recruited Donnel, a pegasus knight joins the fun. So I went in to find... EIGHTEEN RISEN. ALL LEVEL 9+. BIG problem. Theres a lv. 16 archer with a Steel bow at the top left, and a lv. 13 pegasus knight at the bottom. Not too bad. [spoiler=EIGHTEEN RISEN IN THE ARENA] First attempt, first turn: Stahl gets surrounded by about eight Risen and gets owned. Ouch. Second turn: Flynn gets DOUBLED by a pegasus knight. WHAT? Then I notice it's a Pegasus Knight with SPEED +2 and a Steel Lance. 14 speed, 16 attack total. Doubles everyone except Frederick. OOPS Flynn dies to a ton of enemies that turn. WELP LET'S TRY AGAIN EIGHTEEN RISEN, TAKE TWO I decide to just Frederick Emblem this map. EXCEPT THERES A MAGE WITH ELFIRE. No one doubled, so he survived a few turns before getting owned by that mage. OOPS I end up killing everything else with Flynn to get a Secret Book and 3,000 Gold. BUT FREDDY IS DEAD. TRY AGAIN TAKE THREE Virion dies. I'm probably not gonna pair him up, so whatever. Three turns later, Flynn somehow dies. WHAT. Restart... again. I really don't know what to do right now. I'm sure if I leave the arena, my risen will disappear. I really want that gold... EDIT: [spoiler=EIGHTEEN RISEN, TAKE FOUR] Finally found the strategy that works. Frederick and Virion, Kellam and Flynn team up to tank everything. Flynn kills the mage and Frederick kills the peggie turn 1 to avoid the problems. FINALLY OVER... Flynn survives with 2 HP. Oh, and all of the pegasus knights double Virion. FOR ZERO DAMAGE. lol Since I eliminated all threats to Virion, I decided to break this pegasus knight's Javelin. It took 18 turns. YOU ARE NO LONGER A THREAT TO ANYONE. One more EDIT for today: Finished chapter 5. [spoiler=Chapter 5: 10 turns] I have Chrom, Lon'qu, Flynn, Lissa go left, and Donnel, Stahl, Sumia, and Vaike go right Ricken pairs up with Maribelle and runs to safety. Donnel gets a few levels here Virion gets the boss kill, levels to 6. Then I forged some weapons. I still have about 13k gold left for forging other weapons. [spoiler=Stats after Chapter 5] Only gonna show characters above level 6. Name Lv.XP HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Forge Chrom 6.44 24 8 1 9 11 9 12 3 "Not Falchion" Iron Sword Flynn 12.05 29 13 9 11 14 8 12 5 "ThunderBolt" Thunder Virion 6.35 23 10 1 12 7 10 6 3 None yet Lissa 8.40 24 2 8 10 7 12 5 5 "Light Brand" Iron Sword Lon'qu 6.07 22 6 1 13 15 8 7 3 None yet Vaike 6.25 32 11 0 10 8 6 6 0 "Sealed Axe" Iron Axe Frederick 2.35 29 14 2 12 11 6 14 3 None yet Kellam 9.52 25 13 0 9 5 5 13 4 "Ninja Lance" Iron Lance Edited August 4, 2013 by Arcanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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