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Its funny how most of the characters I look forward the most havent been confirmed, despite the leak being true or not, that doesnt exclude other characters not mentioned in it.

-Ike

-Ridley

-Isaac

-Shulk

-Mewtwo

From the ones who are already been confirmed? Ike, Marth, Greninja, Charizard and Meta Knight (This hasnt been confirmed but its 100% in the game xD)

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He's as good as due to the leak, which is why he's on my new list.

1. Shulk

2. Peach

3. Chrom

4. Rosalina

5. Zelda

Marth was on, but apparently he was nerfed hard. I also love Greninja, Palutena, and Villager

Marth is shit now (by that I mean mid tier at best). This new physics engine is so fucking terrible.

True, that leak has been accurate so far, but I wouldn't hold my breath just yet. For all we know, Gematsu might have been right that an Awakening rep is in, but misinformed that it's Chrom. I agree that it'll be either him or Avatar though.

There is zero justifiable reason for Robin to take the spot over Chrom.

Chrom is more popular

Chrom is the main character for 80% of the game

Chrom is voiced by Sugita

Chrom has widespread popularity, is recognizable, and relevance in his plot. He's earned the spot more than any other character in Awakening by a very large margin.

The main reason I've seen why the FE community doesn't want Chrom is because they think it will make their series look bad. They think everyone else will assume the series is all about blue haired bishies wielding plot swords.

Do you have any idea how little everybody else cares? No one is going to judge the series. They will be hyped that another sword character is playable.

There is no "Avatar would be more interesting than Chrom", they'll take Chrom and make him interesting.

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Uh, Avatar is popular and the main character for most of the game too. And is recognizable. She/he is becoming a series staple too since we've seen her/him two games in a row now. Avatar would also stand out more among Ike and Marth since she/he doesn't have blue hair by default and wields magic as well as swords. There is plenty of justifiable reason to pick Avatar over Chrom.

I stand by my opinion that it's a 50/50 chance for either to get in.

And people mainly don't want Chrom to get in because he's a boring as hell Ike/Marth fusion and they like a different lord more. Not because he's another blue-haired sword user.

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1. Ike (I don't care how good/bad he is, I'm maining him)

2. Greninja

3. Wii Fit Trainer

4. Pit

5. Villager

If Shulk is in the game, then he would definitely take the number 2 spot below Ike and boot everyone down a spot. He's awesome. Him getting in might also finally give me motivation to finish Xenoblade.

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There is zero justifiable reason for Robin to take the spot over Chrom.

Chrom is more popular

Chrom is the main character for 80% of the game

Chrom is voiced by Sugita

Chrom has widespread popularity, is recognizable, and relevance in his plot. He's earned the spot more than any other character in Awakening by a very large margin.

The main reason I've seen why the FE community doesn't want Chrom is because they think it will make their series look bad. They think everyone else will assume the series is all about blue haired bishies wielding plot swords.

Do you have any idea how little everybody else cares? No one is going to judge the series. They will be hyped that another sword character is playable.

There is no "Avatar would be more interesting than Chrom", they'll take Chrom and make him interesting

-Chrom isnt more popular than Avatar

-Chrom main character 80% of the game? xDDD Thats Avatar, Chrom loses everything after Gangrel death

-Irrelevant.

Avatar is more original, Avatar is the true main character and he is the most popular as well. Chrom is just a clone, a mix from Marth and Ike (He is like Marth/Eliwood/Roy but wants to be like Ike/Hector/Ephraim, then you can easily see his personality and his fighting style just as a mix of those 2, who are already in the smash).

Anything else? Chrom has the same sword Marth uses and copies Ike´s signature Aether, so how can you not see he is even more clone?

Avatar on the other hand, wields sword and magic (Wider and more original moveset), he is "you" which makes it more original in comparison to Chrom and has a free custom skin as a female.

If you want to get another random guy wielding a sword, get a Swordfighter Mii and put him Chrom´s face, its like they have even already invented a 100% swordman moveset and its not for Chrom. Why would Sakurai bother to make another full new moveset for a character who is less popular, less "main character", and less original than Avatar who has a better an easier moveset to do? Thus unless Sakurai makes Chrom what we see, a mix/clone and he will just be a medium point between Marth and Ike, which would be dishonor in his family and dishonor in his cow.

I totally believe its a 50/50 between Chrom-Avatar to make in smash, the first one being "easier" due just making a mix/clone from Marth and Ike and the second one being the original and harder choice, thats up to Sakurai. He can always make a full brand new moveset for Chrom of course, he can do whatever he wants (Still doubtful, considering there are tons of swordmen in smash and they have just invented a Mii swordfghter with more specials, not like there is much to pick as original sword moves) but the chances for that are really slim in comparison to all the other choices

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Do you have any idea how little everybody else cares? No one is going to judge the series. They will be hyped that another sword character is playable.

This is not remotely true, players hate seeing clones even when they're not actual clones. How the hell do you think they'll react to three characters from the same series that look the same and have similar functions?

Aside from the reasons you mentioned, Chrom would also be a bad choice because he likely won't have much lastability, he'd just be added for being the most recent lord despite the likelihood he's going to be dropped from the series for the most part and he'd end up like Roy in terms of "why did he even get added?" Marth and Ike don't have this problem, and other characters from Awakening also don't have this problem (Avatar, Anna, Tiki), and if Greninja can be added, then a Fire Emblem character who's not the main character can be added to SSB.

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Wow, I feel like you who don't like him aren' t okay with people even wanting Chrom, but that's just my observation.

Personally, Chrom, Shulk, and Chibi-Robo are my most wanted, for I've lost hope for Lucina.

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Wow, I feel like you who don't like him aren' t okay with people even wanting Chrom, but that's just my observation.

Personally, Chrom, Shulk, and Chibi-Robo are my most wanted, for I've lost hope for Lucina.

No, no one should want Chrom in.

In all honesty, I don't think I'm seeing anyone respond negatively to someone just saying they want Chrom.

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I don't think Ike looks anything like Marth (they don't even quite share the same shade of blue in their hair), but I also agree with the fact that three swordsmen with blue hair is kind of overkill, especially when two of them would share Falchion and two could/would share Aether. Avatar wouldn't share anything with Marth or Ike except being able to use a sword.

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-Chrom isnt more popular than Avatar

-Chrom main character 80% of the game? xDDD Thats Avatar, Chrom loses everything after Gangrel death

-Irrelevant.

Avatar is more original, Avatar is the true main character and he is the most popular as well. Chrom is just a clone, a mix from Marth and Ike (He is like Marth/Eliwood/Roy but wants to be like Ike/Hector/Ephraim, then you can easily see his personality and his fighting style just as a mix of those 2, who are already in the smash).

Anything else? Chrom has the same sword Marth uses and copies Ike´s signature Aether, so how can you not see he is even more clone?

Avatar on the other hand, wields sword and magic (Wider and more original moveset), he is "you" which makes it more original in comparison to Chrom and has a free custom skin as a female.

If you want to get another random guy wielding a sword, get a Swordfighter Mii and put him Chrom´s face, its like they have even already invented a 100% swordman moveset and its not for Chrom. Why would Sakurai bother to make another full new moveset for a character who is less popular, less "main character", and less original than Avatar who has a better an easier moveset to do? Thus unless Sakurai makes Chrom what we see, a mix/clone and he will just be a medium point between Marth and Ike, which would be dishonor in his family and dishonor in his cow.

I totally believe its a 50/50 between Chrom-Avatar to make in smash, the first one being "easier" due just making a mix/clone from Marth and Ike and the second one being the original and harder choice, thats up to Sakurai. He can always make a full brand new moveset for Chrom of course, he can do whatever he wants (Still doubtful, considering there are tons of swordmen in smash and they have just invented a Mii swordfghter with more specials, not like there is much to pick as original sword moves) but the chances for that are really slim in comparison to all the other choices

>Avatar is more popular than Chrom

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/fe13poll.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html

wat. In the American poll, Chrom was under Tharja and Walhart, but Robin wasn't even anywhere to be found. There's a reason Chrom got a fanservice DLC and Robin... didn't.

Chrom is the main character for the vast majority of the game.

Gangrel Arc? Chrom

Walhart Arc? Chrom. How in Naga's name can you even say Avatar was the lead in this arc? Who was it that learned the difference between a King and a Conqueror? I can certainly tell you it wasn't Robin.

Robin got the Grima Arc yet it was still Chrom's plot sword that was needed. It was 60:40 Avatar:Chrom

Calling Robin this game's main character is like saying Mark was FE7's protagonist.

Chrom has more publicity

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/mhfg_costumes.jpg

Not seeing one of these for Robin. If anything, even Lucina has a better chance at getting in than Robin.

Robin isn't even on the damn box art.

Did I mention Chrom's voiced by Sugita? Oh yeah, he's voiced by Sugita. That's kind of a big deal.

Sakurai doesn't give a damn about moveset potential. Pac-Man should be all the proof you need for that.

This is not remotely true, players hate seeing clones even when they're not actual clones. How the hell do you think they'll react to three characters from the same series that look the same and have similar functions?

Aside from the reasons you mentioned, Chrom would also be a bad choice because he likely won't have much lastability, he'd just be added for being the most recent lord despite the likelihood he's going to be dropped from the series for the most part and he'd end up like Roy in terms of "why did he even get added?" Marth and Ike don't have this problem, and other characters from Awakening also don't have this problem (Avatar, Anna, Tiki), and if Greninja can be added, then a Fire Emblem character who's not the main character can be added to SSB.

No one's complaining about Luigi or Falco. I can guarantee you the only place this complaint about 3 Blue Haired Swordsman is coming from is the FE community. Everyone else is welcoming Chrom with open arms, but ironically the FE community is the only group I see that is against his inclusion for an out of left field reason like "Nooo too many blue haired swordsman!"

Lastability? The face of the highest selling game in the series? The face of the game that saved the series? Their cash cow? You're worried about CHROM's lastability? No. Chrom is here to stay. I am truly, legitimately baffled that you would put Robin over Chrom in terms of longevity. Putting Roy and Chrom in the same category makes no sense to me.

The Greninja argument doesn't really apply here. There is no main Pokemon. The closest thing to that would be Pikachu (who made it in). However, Awakening does have a main character.

"No, no one should want Chrom in."

This really just sounds like personal bias. Are there characters I want in it besides Chrom? Yeah. But I'm keeping it realistic. No one will get the spot over Chrom.

There were a million other Namco characters I wanted in over Pac-Man but it didn't change the fact that I knew Pac-Man was going to make it in.

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No one's complaining about Luigi or Falco. I can guarantee you the only place this complaint about 3 Blue Haired Swordsman is coming from is the FE community. Everyone else is welcoming Chrom with open arms, but ironically the FE community is the only group I see that is against his inclusion for an out of left field reason like "Nooo too many blue haired swordsman!"

Luigi is not a clone. Hasn't been SSB64.

Falco was one of the ones that needed "de-cloning" after Melee. It's one of the things people disliked about him, and Ganondorf, and Young/Toon Link, and Lucas. People may like the characters, but they don't like seeing clones, and unless Sakurai can find some way to make Chrom very unique, he will be perceived as clone and players don't like that.

If the fandom of the series the character is from doesn't want him, that should be enough justification not to have him. How is it not understandable that we don't want our series represented in such a way? Three characters with extremely similar attributes just makes the series look like something that rehashes the same old material all the time.

Lastability? The face of the highest selling game in the series? The face of the game that saved the series? Their cash cow? You're worried about CHROM's lastability? No. Chrom is here to stay. I am truly, legitimately baffled that you would put Robin over Chrom in terms of longevity. Putting Roy and Chrom in the same category makes no sense to me.

Unless he's the main character of another FE game - which I personally do not see happening, but only time will tell - he'll go down that road. The next game will come, and people will still play Awakening, but it's not likely to be the "big FE game" anymore.

I don't put Robin specifically over Chrom in terms of longevity, hence why I put "Avatar," a character that represents the specific character from the two recent FE games, likely the same character in future FEs, and the actual style of gameplay FE is made up of. As opposed to a bland Marth redux.

The Greninja argument doesn't really apply here. There is no main Pokemon. The closest thing to that would be Pikachu (who made it in). However, Awakening does have a main character.

Nonsense. There might not be many "main" Pokemon, but there are multiple Pokemon that have had more impact and importance in the series than Greninja, a Pokemon that did not even really exist when he was decided for the roster.

This really just sounds like personal bias. Are there characters I want in it besides Chrom? Yeah. But I'm keeping it realistic. No one will get the spot over Chrom.

There were a million other Namco characters I wanted in over Pac-Man but it didn't change the fact that I knew Pac-Man was going to make it in.

Get your sarcasm detector checked.

For the record, I do think Chrom is the most likely to make it in. I just really, really, really don't want it to actually happen.

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>Avatar is more popular than Chrom

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/fe13poll.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html

wat. In the American poll, Chrom was under Tharja and Walhart, but Robin wasn't even anywhere to be found. There's a reason Chrom got a fanservice DLC and Robin... didn't.

Chrom is the main character for the vast majority of the game.

Gangrel Arc? Chrom

Walhart Arc? Chrom. How in Naga's name can you even say Avatar was the lead in this arc? Who was it that learned the difference between a King and a Conqueror? I can certainly tell you it wasn't Robin.

Robin got the Grima Arc yet it was still Chrom's plot sword that was needed. It was 60:40 Avatar:Chrom

Calling Robin this game's main character is like saying Mark was FE7's protagonist.

Chrom has more publicity

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/mhfg_costumes.jpg

Not seeing one of these for Robin. If anything, even Lucina has a better chance at getting in than Robin.

Robin isn't even on the damn box art.

Did I mention Chrom's voiced by Sugita? Oh yeah, he's voiced by Sugita. That's kind of a big deal.

Sakurai doesn't give a damn about moveset potential. Pac-Man should be all the proof you need for that.

Literally everyone I've spoken to would prefer to have Robin to Chrom, and although I don't know the big name smashers, I know a couple competitive smashers. Also, the problem isn't really that "another blue haired swordsman" will be in, but the fact that Chrom literally is Marth trying to Ike, and we don't need a midpoint, we want varied playstyles, which seems to be a theme this time around as there are custom movesets. If you ask me they probably wanted to put Chrom in initially until they realized the posibilities Robin could provide us with. And on top of this, we could use another short to mid-range character, Robin could be what megaman should have been.

also, Walhart was both Chrom's and Robin's battle, it was showing that Robin's tactics could outdo the opposing tactician as well as Walhart's brute strength, Chrom deffinitely was not the main character over Robin there. Robin and Chrom were consistently important to one another so arguing over who was a main character when is pointless.

at the begining? Robin was the co-lead with Chrom, wanting to help his "savior" in whatever way he can, and Chrom was trying to protect his country from a new threat with the help of his new tactician

Walhart? I already said why it was Robin's battle as well.

Grima? Robin was again co-lead with Chrom, as Robin finds out that he is the Fell Dragon and then worries about hurting Chrom, and Chrom restores the Falchion's light as well as fights side by side with Robin in the final moments.

It's not unheard of to have 2 protagonists, which was clearly the case in this game.

Also, a side note, my friends who have never played Fire Emblem, recognize Lucina, but not Chrom, whoever argued that he is the most recognizable character holds no water.

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Literally everyone I've spoken to would prefer to have Robin to Chrom, and although I don't know the big name smashers, I know a couple competitive smashers. Also, the problem isn't really that "another blue haired swordsman" will be in, but the fact that Chrom literally is Marth trying to Ike, and we don't need a midpoint, we want varied playstyles, which seems to be a theme this time around as there are custom movesets. If you ask me they probably wanted to put Chrom in initially until they realized the posibilities Robin could provide us with. And on top of this, we could use another short to mid-range character, Robin could be what megaman should have been.

also, Walhart was both Chrom's and Robin's battle, it was showing that Robin's tactics could outdo the opposing tactician as well as Walhart's brute strength, Chrom deffinitely was not the main character over Robin there. Robin and Chrom were consistently important to one another so arguing over who was a main character when is pointless.

at the begining? Robin was the co-lead with Chrom, wanting to help his "savior" in whatever way he can, and Chrom was trying to protect his country from a new threat with the help of his new tactician

Walhart? I already said why it was Robin's battle as well.

Grima? Robin was again co-lead with Chrom, as Robin finds out that he is the Fell Dragon and then worries about hurting Chrom, and Chrom restores the Falchion's light as well as fights side by side with Robin in the final moments.

It's not unheard of to have 2 protagonists, which was clearly the case in this game.

Also, a side note, my friends who have never played Fire Emblem, recognize Lucina, but not Chrom, whoever argued that he is the most recognizable character holds no water.

Everyone I've spoken to wants Chrom. At the very least, they know if anyone's making it in it will be Chrom and not Robin. No matter how much I want Hector in there it doesn't change the fact that Chrom's getting in. It doesn't matter how obvious the decision is. As far as series are concerned, they haven't been aiming for surprises. Surprises have come with the standalone newcomers. They went with obvious choices for the most part such as Palutena and Rosalina when it came to series that already have reps.

Robin did not have any development whatsoever in the Valm Arc. Robin had zero relevance. Forgive my choice of words.... but you are straight pulling that out of your posterior.

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sword_or_the_Knee/Script

You know what that chapter is? That's the chapter where you confront Walhart. ROBIN DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ANY LINES. No confrontation speech with Walhart. Nothing. Up until the terrible third arc Robin had absolutely no bearing on the plot. He/She was simply Chrom's tactician. Is Mark the protagonist in FE7? No. Is Kris the Protagonist of FE12? No.

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/The_Conqueror/Script

Just for kicks, here's the script for the chapter before that. Robin's only line is "Hmm...". Yeah, this arc is totally 50/50.

Just because the game likes to kiss Robin's ass, it doesn't make Robin the main character.

The beginning of the game was straight out og FE7, except Robin can actually fight. Either way, the main character goes around introducing you to everybody. Once again, is Mark the protagonist in Lyn Mode? Her fight against Lungdren was hers alone, and the tactician was simply along for the ride. It is the exact same case for Robin. Chrom commands the plot of FE13 up until the third arc but even then the spotlight is split between him and Robin.

I've already shown 3 separate polls dealing with popularity.

I've got the Gematsu leak on my side too.

The reason Lucina is more "recognizable" is because she was the one disguised as Marth, AKA the big publicity stunt to garner attention for the game. Discussing Awakening with the entirety of my anime club (there are about 30-40 of us in there), almost everyone wanted Chrom in Smash. Tumblr? They don't care which Awakening character is in there. Youtube comments refer to Chrom more than Robin. It's literally only on SF that I see people who are actively against Chrom's inclusion. My response is deal with it. He's the face of Awakening.

As far as gameplay is concerned, Chrom literally has his own sword style. Honestly the complaints about Chrom being too similar to Marth are so dumb. Marth's moveset was built entirely from scratch with various sprite animations. Chrom has his own set of animations. Just because they both use Falchion doesn't mean they will both have the same moves. Chrom even has Lance animations over Ike and Marth that they could use. Aether? Anyone with eyes and basic cognitive ability could see that Chrom's and Ike's are entirely different. As I said, they pick the character first then make the moveset later.

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I'd just like to state that by your logic, Link cannot be the protagonist of Zelda because he has no lines, nor can Samus or any number of silent protagonists be the main character of their games. a character doesn't need to speak to develop, nor to be important to the plotline.

as for the popularity, I was stating that people who don't play Fire Emblem will usually recognise Lucina before Chrom, I was just pointing that out because someone claimed Chrom to be the most recognizable character in FE Awakening, not to say that she was more important to the story than Chrom. Youtube is easy to be biased, because odds are if someone is watching something FE related, then they know FE.

Also I never meant to say that Robin is more likely to be in the game, I just meant that they probably second-guess themselves after they started making Chrom, realizing that Robin would be a more varied character than Chrom, but assuming they started on Chrom already, I doubt they would drop him for a different character, even if I personally would like them to.

and to the statement about Chrom's sword style being different from Marth's and Ike's, yes, his sword style is different, and that might do something in a highly realistic 3D plane swordfighting game, but in a 2d plane fighter you can only change so much for sword attacks aside from the range, speed, and power of the attacks, which would leave him most likely at a midpoint between Marth and Ike.

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@Galestorm the difference between those games and FE is that FE's story is mostly dialogue-driven, whereas for the most part in Zelda, Metroid, and the like the story is more controlled by actions. Less so now, and those series are using more dialogue to tell their stories, but even Samus is barely a silent protagonist anymore. Hell, she "spoke" in the Super Metroid intro.

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Zero Suit Samus also speaks in Smash, for the record. :P

Also, Chrom may be the most wanted FE newcomer, but that doesn't automatically mean it's going to be him. Popular choices have been rejected for various reasons before. Geno because he's as minor as minor can get and also legal issues, Ridley because it seems Sakurai feels he works better as a boss, etc. He could easily have decided that Chrom wouldn't be different enough or something.

The only real support he has is being the face of the FE that saved the series and the Gematsu leak.

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@Galestorm the difference between those games and FE is that FE's story is mostly dialogue-driven, whereas for the most part in Zelda, Metroid, and the like the story is more controlled by actions. Less so now, and those series are using more dialogue to tell their stories, but even Samus is barely a silent protagonist anymore. Hell, she "spoke" in the Super Metroid intro.

fair point, excluding Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, but I do have a better example, the Persona series.

With the Persona series, the protagonist will only ever answer in 1 sentence statements, and is always the supporting role in everything except in Persona 4 when you decide things for the investigation team every so often, but lets focus on Persona 3, as it's a better example. The protagonist of Persona 3 rarely ever says more than 3 words at a time, yet he still develops a personality without needing to converse extensively, and he is easily still the most important character, for reasons explained below (major spoilers)

The protagonist of the game harbors an apocalyptic entity within him, and when he awakens to his Persona, the entity gets released, and at the end of the game the end of the world begins, only to be sealed by the protagonist, giving up his life in the process, but it is only known during the last month of the game that he carried the entity within himself and that only he can seal it

yet, despite this, through the whole game the Protagonist takes the supporting role in every other character's life, really not doing much of anything himself, but never is it disputed that the protagonist is anything but the protagonist.

but I'll digress here, I don't feel like drawing this out any longer, I've stated my case and why I believe it to be so.

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Oh, I gotta edit the first list I made here!

1. Ike (duh, he's never NOT going to be the number one spot! :D)

2. Luigi (still super excited for his Poltergust Final Smash!!)

3. Robin (My most wanted FE newcomer aside from Ephraim, YESSS!! And the Robins look SO fun to play!)

4. Rosalina

5. Toon Link

Yup, yup, had to cut Charizard lol.

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I'm most excited for Robin. Marth has always been my main since Melee, so I doubt that will change, but Robin's concept seems to be pretty cool. My other three, in no particular order, are Ike, Greninja, and Mega Man. I'll consider Lucina as well, but it depends on if she actually is a carbon-copy of Marth.

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Once I get my 3DS copy, I'm going to play the following:

Robin

Robin

Robin

Robin

Robin

But in all honesty, I also want to play Little Mac and Zero Suit. But the man/woman I mentioned will be the first person I'll play.

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1. Kirby (the only character in Smash that I can play reasonably well simply because I've played Kirby and the Amazing Mirror)

2. Robin (why would I ignore him when I've put more than 860 hours in FE13?)

3. Palutena (I love Kid Icarus Uprising)

4. Greninja (starter in Pokemon X)

5. Lucina (why not?)

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