NoNameAtAll Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) You mean gen 1 Oifey archetype, Oifey was Sigurd's tactician in training buddy. :B You mean Marth archetype, in FE1 Marth was the tactician and lord. You mean Malledus. Marth's first tactician. And he shows up in FE1. Edited March 27, 2015 by NoNameAtAll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misses Elise-chan! Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You mean Malledus. Marth's first tactician. And he shows up in FE1.The only Archanea games I've beaten were FE1 and FE13, so I wouldn't know. Haven't seen him in FE3 yet. Even then, no one remembers that guy.A plot line that wasn't used could be the main villian having a backstory. Zephial and Lyon, even Mediuth was angry at how humans looked down on his people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Shanan is a good story/gameplay archetypePrepromo SM with simmilar growths to the navarre of the game usually one of the last survivng if not the last surviving member of its family Shanan(FE4) Karel(FE7) Say'ri(FE:A) Any Others?? Edited March 27, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misses Elise-chan! Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Never mind, Robin is the main villian as well as the main protagonist, so I guess that counts as giving the main villian backstory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 I thought Rabbattack was one of the local uneducated trolls? Would explain his horrible spelling and ignorance towards Malledus' existence, in any case... We're getting off-topic. Shanan is a good story/gameplay archetype Prepromo SM with simmilar growths to the navarre of the game usually one of the last survivng if not the last surviving member of its family Shanan(FE4) Karel(FE7) Say'ri(FE:A) Any Others?? Shanan seems to be outside any normal archetypes. He's the series' first swordmaster, wields a holy sword, and is completely up-front with his identity. Speaking of the characters you've listed, Karel is much closer to being a traditional Navarre. Guy was both too young and had too different a personality to be a true Navarre, while Raven had a clearly defined backstory of being former nobility, a "friendship" with a vassal, and had short hair instead of long. Navarres are known for being stoic, wielding a sword with high crit rate, having long hair, and possessing a vague or no backstory for why they became the way they were. Karel fits all that, and according to TVTropes, also seems to be a clone of Ruruoni Kenshin, some stupid anime character I'll never research because anime seems to be less about the work than it is about officially merchandised pornography. Anyways, Karel seems nothing like Shanan besides the long hair and Swordmaster class. Say'ri? Don't make me laugh. She's clearly cloned from Karla. Oriental female Swordmaster with long black hair, with a character revolving around her brother. She's also inherited some details from Echidna in how she's leading a resistance against a bunch of corrupt colonials, and how her arc is basically completely and utterly meaningless filler from start to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misses Elise-chan! Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) The Arran and Samson archetype was terrible in Awakening, I hope they improve upon it. I thought Rabbattack was one of the local uneducated trolls? Would explain his horrible spelling and ignorance towards Malledus' existence, in any case...We're getting off-topic.I am very offended, if this is true then I shall strive to better myself as a person in order to prevent myself from invoking feelings of anger or annoyance on other people. Edited March 28, 2015 by Rabbattack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I thought Rabbattack was one of the local uneducated trolls? Would explain his horrible spelling and ignorance towards Malledus' existence, in any case... We're getting off-topic. Shanan seems to be outside any normal archetypes. He's the series' first swordmaster, wields a holy sword, and is completely up-front with his identity. Speaking of the characters you've listed, Karel is much closer to being a traditional Navarre. Guy was both too young and had too different a personality to be a true Navarre, while Raven had a clearly defined backstory of being former nobility, a "friendship" with a vassal, and had short hair instead of long. Navarres are known for being stoic, wielding a sword with high crit rate, having long hair, and possessing a vague or no backstory for why they became the way they were. Karel fits all that, and according to TVTropes, also seems to be a clone of Ruruoni Kenshin, some stupid anime character I'll never research because anime seems to be less about the work than it is about officially merchandised pornography. Anyways, Karel seems nothing like Shanan besides the long hair and Swordmaster class. Say'ri? Don't make me laugh. She's clearly cloned from Karla. Oriental female Swordmaster with long black hair, with a character revolving around her brother. She's also inherited some details from Echidna in how she's leading a resistance against a bunch of corrupt colonials, and how her arc is basically completely and utterly meaningless filler from start to finish. Im talking about straight gameplay but yea say'ri fits karla more Guy fits navarre more then karel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Im talking about straight gameplay FE is about story, not gameplay. Guy fits navarre more then karel Okay, that's just blatantly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vascela Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Well you're wrong on both accounts lolol. Story might be the end all say all for you, but you can't speak your tongue for every player. It's very plausible to some people to say that gameplay is more important than other aspects of a game. From a statistical standpoint, Guy gits Navarre very well. Raw stats, enemy recruitment, availability, class... It's not a matter of "Well Karel looks like Navarre, so that means he HAS to be the Navarre." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) FE is about story, not gameplay. Okay, that's just blatantly wrong. False that means that 70% of FEs suck (Even in video game story standards) FE isnt a visual novel its an SRPG its about tactics and unit managment not about the story "From a statistical standpoint, Guy gits Navarre very well. Raw stats, enemy recruitment, availability, class... It's not a matter of "Well Karel looks like Navarre, so that means he HAS to be the Navarre." THIS IS JUSTICE by your logic jagen isnt an archetype because no other jagen but marcus looks like him Because there is a story in your videogame that doesnt mean its about the story WoW has a plot but this days its clearly about the raiding pvp etc. Just because you define FE in a story standpoint (even then karel isnt going for revenge which is what most navarres are about) doesnt mean story its the emphasis in the game (when in most games par tellius/jugdral/fe8 there isnt a big emphasis on the story especialy in FE1/FE6 where its preety simple and straightfoward) Wait the original navarre is more like karla cuz he is searching for someone which karel doesnt so.... your logic is again flawed Edited March 28, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 ^Isn't Karel also looking for his sister? (I may be wrong here and getting him mixed up with Karla) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) ^Isn't Karel also looking for his sister? (I may be wrong here and getting him mixed up with Karla) karla is looking for karel not vise versa In rekka no ken karel lives only to find challengers Edited March 28, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Ah, for some reason I thought Karel wanted to kill Karla to judge her strength, since he let her live to see her become stronger when he killed the rest of his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Karel doesn't exactly make sense in any respect. He's insane, remember? And besides, why would anyone recruit him over Harken's Brave Sword? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Why are we talking about recruitment tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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