ruadath Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Although at this point it probably seems like I'm doing too many different playthroughs simultaneously, I've watched some of GeneralHorace's 66 Turn LTC of this game and successfully managed to improve his Chapter 2 from a 4-turn to a 3-turn via extensive RNG manipulation (combined with strategy; it was not at all trivial to 3-turn the chapter, even with control of the RNG). I would be happy to post my strategy for the chapter if anyone is interested and will attempt to get videos of the rest of the challenge up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Since I can't offer you a video for Chapter 2, I decided to at least make a post with screenshots and the general strategy: Starting Stats: Name: Lv.XP HP STR SKL SPD LCK DEF RES Seth: 1.98 BASE Eirika: 1.75 BASE Franz: 2.08 21 8 6 8 2 6 1 Gilliam: 4.39 Vanessa: 1.00 BASE Moulder: 3.00 BASE The strategy for the Prologue and Chapter 1 to get these stats was taken directly from General Horace's run, which can be found here; the only difference is that I mainpulated Franz level to give him an extra point in Skill, which turned out to be unnecessary.Preparations: Franz trades his Iron Lance to Vanessa in exchange for her Javelin Now for the actual playthrough! Displayed below is the starting position: Turn 1: First we manipulate the RNG and then fly Vanessa directly south onto the fortress above the bandit. She double attacks with the Slim Lance, criticaling the second time, while the bandit misses, leaving him with 8 HP. Turn 1 (cont.): We then maneuver the rest of the troops like so Franz is left to RNG manipulate before ending his turn, at the spot marked by the arrow. Enemy Turn 1: The bandit Vanessa attacked hits her for 7 damage; she counters with first a miss and then a critical to finish him off. On the other side of the screen a bandit attacks Ross, missing him. During the other phase, Ross and Garcia reduce his HP to 5. Turn 2: More RNG abuse. Moulder moves above Vanessa and heals her. Vanessa then flies onto the tile north of the boss and attacks (crits) him for 15 damage with the Iron Lance. He misses. Turn 2 (cont.): Everyone else moves like so; Seth visits the west village for a Red Gem before ending his turn. RNG abuse occurred before that. Enemy Turn 2: The bandit east of Vanessa attacks her, missing. She counters for 5 damage. The boss also attacks Vanessa; they both miss. A bandit attacks Ross, missing; on the counterattack and subsequent attack on the other phase, Ross dispatches him, and Garcia attacks the enemy archer. Two enemy reinforcements appear on the west side of the map before Turn 3: Turn 3: RNG abuse. Then Eirika moves next to the bandit who moved off the mountains and kills him with a critical. She levels up too. Turn 3 (cont.): More RNG abuse. Then Franz kills the reinforcement below him with a Javelin critical. Turn 3 (cont.): Even more RNG abuse. Vanessa critical-kills the boss with the Iron Lance. She levels up too, gaining HP, Str, Skl, Spd, but I don't have a screenshot. Turn 3 (cont.): Gilliam visits the village for an Elixir. Moulder heals Eirika the HP she got from her level up. Seth RNG abuses before moving onto the forest east of Franz. Enemy Turn 3: The remaining bandit on the mountain attacks Vanessa, hitting her for the first time, and gets killed by the ensuing critical. It is important she got the Str during her last level up, or he would have survived! The remaining reinforcment charges Seth and gets slaughtered by his Steel Sword. Seth gets a poor level up, which I don't have a screenshot of here. Garcia and Ross finish off the enemy archer for victory! We end the chapter with the following stats: Name: Lv.XP HP STR SKL SPD LCK DEF RES Seth: 2.02 31 14 13 12 14 12 8 Eirika: 2.12 17 5 9 10 6 4 1 Franz: 2.41 21 8 6 8 2 6 1 Gilliam: 4.39 BASE Vanessa: 2.84 18 6 8 12 4 6 5 Moulder: 3.22 BASE (Hmm... despite resizing the images on my PC, I can't seem to make them any bigger in the post... help?) Edited July 12, 2015 by ruadath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately, I realized that Seth needs a good level up in order to do enough damage to the boss of the next chapter so that Franz can kill him (for EXP purposes). Therefore, I restarted my playthrough, using the same strategy, but simply modifying the RNG abuse at the end to get Seth a good level up. I also got a slightly different level up fro Franz in Chapter 1; instead of Skill, he increased Defense and Luck. So my post-Chapter 2 stats are: Name: Lv.XP HP STR SKL SPD LCK DEF RES Seth: 2.02 31 15 14 13 13 12 8 Eirika: 2.12 17 5 9 10 6 4 1 Franz: 2.41 21 8 5 8 3 7 1 Gilliam: 4.39 BASE Vanessa: 2.84 18 6 8 12 4 6 5 Moulder: 3.22 BASE I also now have screenshots of the two level ups I missed in the previous chapter: Edited July 12, 2015 by ruadath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I see some room for improvement on chapter 14, you might be able to pull off a 5-turn by doing some very complicated rescue drop chains with Tethys, who would get dropped within 10 tiles of the throne on turn 4 and Eirika would get dropped + danced on turn 5 for the seize. Not necessarily saying that it works, more like you might find a way to do it. C8 is doable in 4 turns, but skipping the whip costs a turn on C10, so it's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely look into that once I get there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Try VBA-RR for recording videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckFace Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Try VBA-RR for recording videos Or specifically, here for the emulator download. The best way to make a movie is to first record the inputs, then play back the movie while making an uncompressed AVI recording. Then you can encode the raw AVI file however you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Chapter 3 clear... still no video (sorry!), but the strategy was fairly similar to that of General Horace, although I had to make modifications to the RNG manipulation due to the fact that my units level up at different times from his, and the fact that the AI reacts slightly differently due to the fact that my Vanessa is stronger. A brief synopsis: Preparations: Lots of shopping; traded around items to make room, and made sure neither Eirika nor Garcia had non-weapons in their inventories (thief). Seth - Iron Sword, Iron Lance, Javelin Eirika - Iron Sword Franz - Iron Lance Gilliam - Javelin x2 Vanessa - Javelin Ross - Hand Axe Here is a the unit breakdown for the useful characters (i.e. not Neimi and Ross): Name: Lv.XP HP STR SKL SPD LCK DEF RES Seth: 2.08 31 15 14 13 13 12 8 Eirika: 3.50 18 6 10 11 7 4 1 Franz: 3.46 22 9 6 9 3 8 1 Gilliam: 4.49 BASE Vanessa: 4.28 20 8 10 14 5 7 6 Moulder: 3.66 BASE Garcia: 4.53 BASE Edited July 14, 2015 by ruadath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet_Basil Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I still remember Horace's run, it was awesome! I'll pay attention to this one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Finally cleared Chapter 5. My EXP distribution wasn't nearly as nice as General Horace's, so I ended up having multiple level ups both turns, on the enemy phase... and Artur kept getting killed. I had to change the strategy slightly to fix this but I still managed to get a 2 turn clear, albeit with not nearly as nice level-ups as GH. Stats posted below: Name: Lv.XP HP STR/MAG SKL SPD LCK DEF RES Seth: 3.28 32 16 14 13 13 12 8 Eirika: 4.53 19 7 10 12 8 4 1 Franz: 4.84 23 10 7 10 3 8 2 Gilliam: 4.58 BASE Vanessa: 5.40 20 8 11 14 6 8 6 Moulder: 3.77 BASE Garcia: 4.71 BASE Colm 2.15 BASE Artur: 3.35 19 7 7 9 2 3 7 I don't think they should, but if the poor level ups turn out to be a problem, I may have to restart from before this chapter. EDIT: I probably will redo this chapter instead of moving on. Edited July 17, 2015 by ruadath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Just found a video of C14 getting 5-turned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJDnXJGI4sM You might face issues getting Artur to A Staves + 24 mag to 1-turn C16, I recall Horace getting that just barely. Edited July 19, 2015 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) He has a promoted Tana and Vanessa, which means he waited for Cormag to show up. It might still be possible with an unpromoted Tana though, I dunno. Also promoted L'Arachel, rofl Both Saleh's and Artur's staff rank would be an issue though. WIth Tower abuse, I still don't think anywhere but the above chapter could be improved. Maybe Chapter 12, maybe chapter 18. Edited July 19, 2015 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I see, I suspected the units needed wouldn't be available. Maybe L'Arachel can be used to rescue the Paladin that killed the Knight on turn 1 so she still reaches Rennac in 2 turns with 7 mov. The OP can probably explore a different strat when he's at C14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) L'Arachel only has 6 move unpromoted unfourtunately, so it wouldn't be possible. Stupid random FE8 troubadour nerf.I'm almost 90% sure it can't be 5 turned without another 8 move unit anyway, let alone Promoted L'Arachel. Edited July 19, 2015 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 I've decided to restart this challenge, thanks to both figuring out a couple of new ideas to gain more EXP on the early chapters and the fact that I now an familiar enough with this forum to post proper annotations to each level. But a question for you guys: What's the proper etiquette with regard to restarting? Should I close this thread and start a new one, or just continue writing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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