[FE4] Is Sylvia OP?

[Yojinbo]

Hawk

[General Horace]

Azel and Janne.

[Yojinbo]

Edit: Holyn

Edited October 30, 2015 by Yojinbo

[Blackzero]

Femina.

[Refa]

Tristian/Jamka.

EDIT Yeah, laugh at me for picking Jamka. I don't blame you.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Refa

[Blackzero]

Dimna.

[Yojinbo]

Buttface

Edit: Horace, you forgot to add Hawk to my team

Edited October 30, 2015 by Yojinbo

[General Horace]

Daisy and fat shota sigurd

[Yojinbo]

Linda

[Blackzero]

Johan.

[Refa]

Radney, Johalva.

[Blackzero]

Hannibal.

[Yojinbo]

Roddlebad

[General Horace]

which leaves with with the HITMAN OF CONNAUGHT

[Blackzero]

Does having undrafted characters sell their items and having drafted units buy them result in a penalty?

[General Horace]

Nope. You can do all the talk events like Fin's Hero Lance and the like free of penalty too. As long as they don't fight, fall in love, dance, or use staves

Edited October 30, 2015 by General Horace

[General Horace]

PROLOGUE - 9/9 TURNS

skipped the Silver Sword, Cuan proc'd continue on the boss, but he could have either got a lover crit with Ethlin, or Sigurd could have got a Sibling crit, or Cuan could have proc'd continue. Azel/Ardan got the Speed ring, unfourtunately Ardan got it since Azel needed to kill the dude to get it at all.

stats after Chapter 1 arena:

CHAPTER 1 - 19/28 TURNS

TO GENOA - 4 TURNS

The good units went down and broke through the axe chumps, and Cuan + Steel Lance Sigurd killed the boss. Ethlin baited Ayra the next turn since I want her Hero sword.

TO MARPHA - 5 TURNS

Sigurd killed the boss with a Steel Sword Sibling crit. Ethlin healed and stuff, Cuan helped pave a way for Ethlin to get in position to provide the crit.

Could have done Cuan + Sigurd for the kill but it's less reliable. Azel nuked some dudes that somehow survived Sigurd and co.

TO VERDANE - 10 TURNS

Sigurd was slow enough that Jamka's goons attacked him which was nice, but he wasn't fast enough to double the archers with the Javelin so I took an extra turn there. Ethlin just spammed return after healing up Cuan and Sigurd. Steel sword has 42 kills on it, so it'll have crit in time for the stupid shield ring boss.

CHAPTER 2 - 24/52 TURNS

Cuan is a monster.

TO HEIRHEIN - 8 TURNS

Cuan + Ethlin killed the boss, allowing Sigurd to move through and and kill one of the knights to seize.

TO ANPHONY - 4 TURNS

Cuan triggered the Elite Guy early on, and him + Ethlin finished him. Levin started collecting some villages, while Azel started to run for them as well. Ardan continued on his path to the pursuit ring.

TO MACKILY - 7 TURNS

Ethlin returned Sigurd home and he charged to the last castle after depositing the shield ring so he'd actually get attacked by the enemies there. Levin got the bargain ring and was returned home by Ethlin, who went home via return ring.

TO AUGUSTY - 5 TURNS

Cuan and Sigurd charged ahead far enough to avoid Zyne's chumps. For some reason a thwomp suicided on Sigurd at 1 range which actually saved a turn since Sigurd doesn't quite ORKO them with javelins. Ethlin promoted, and then Levin bought the elite ring thanks to the bargain ring. Azel continued to raid villages. Levin recruited Fury for her lance, and Sigurd blicked Shagaal with the steel sword that has ~70 kills on it.

CHAPTER 3 - 14/64 TURNS

Man, Ethlin is amazing, a mounted rescue user just isn't good past chapter 3, (till gen 2 anyway) and she's the only one that fits the bill. Having Cuan with her is icing on the cake.

TO MADINO - 4 TURNS

Sigurd, Ethlin and Cuan charged forward, Ethlin tried to steal some money with the thief sword (as a bonus it gave her more evasion) while Sigurd counterkilled the armours near Jabarro on turn 3 EP. Cuan ORKO'd a bowthwomp blocking Sigurd and Ethlin and canto'd back to help with Silvail, while Sigurd killed the boss with the 80 kill steel sword and seize, while Ethlin returned him and herself afterwards. Azel bought the elite ring and roasted some thwomps, and Levin headed towards the crossknights with the pursuit ring and Lachesis.

TO SILVAIL - 5 TURNS

Levin easily killed all the cross knights bar two that weren't in range by turn 5, and him and Cuan killed the remaining two allowing Lachesis to talk to Eltshan for the earth sword. Ethlin returned Levin back to base castle for him to promote, and the remaining three charged to Shagaal. Cuan conviently ORKO's thwomps with the Hero lance, which is awesome, as he was a little bit ahead of Sigurd and Ethlin.

TO ORGAHIL - 5 TURNS

Ethlin returned Sigurd, who was warped up to Madino by a freshly promoted Levin, and Cuan and the Gae Bolg followed the next turn, meaning Cuan could be up next to Sigurd and not get attacked since his defence was so high, allowing Sigurd to funnel kills onto the Hero Sword, especially since he left the Steel Sword with Ethlin for Leaf. Azel was warped up by Levin a few turns before Sigurd/Cuan and managed to help them clear a path for Sigurd (kind of) through the bridge, and then got the handaxe pirates that were leftover, he'll promote next chapter unless he catastrophically fails in the arena. Ardan got the restore staff, mvp. Levin got out on the map to build love points with Tiltyu, and just warped chumps around for exp, he's nearly level capped.

Team Lenster at the end of Chapter 3:

Ethlin also has like, 10 more swords in her storage, Leaf is never running out of money. Arthur won't really need the pursuit ring anyway. And everyone else after the Chapter 4 arena...

I don't remember Levin having that much res. I think he's massively res blessed! His HP seems really good too, holy blood too strong.

CHAPTER 4 - 26/90 TURNS

TO ZAXON - 12 TURNS

Dew bought the leg ring and barrier ring and headed out with Azel and Sigurd, Azel self sustained with the earth sword while Sigurd was kept alive through the wind mages by Libro!Levin, who spent the entire time next to Tiltyu. She killed some stray mages left behind, and then the bandits, and Levin continously restored Ardan who tanked the sleep staff like a boss. Eventually made it to the boss and Azel cleared out all the enemies rather easily and Sigurd killed the boss with the Hero Sword. The blizzard mages targetted Sigurd instead of dew, since he was at 20 HP and had less avoid and res.

TO SILESIA ????

I forgot to note how many turns it took Mahnya to die but it felt like it took an extra turn. Sigurd rebought the leg ring.

TO ZAXON ??? TURNS

they all added up to 26.

Ran past Lamia and her goons, Azel killed a general in the way of Sigurd, and Sigurd killed the boss and seized. Levin got Holsety and sat next to Tiltyu for the whole map.

CHAPTER 5 - 18/108 TURNS

Had to wait one turn for Levin/Tiltyu to happen oh well.

TO LONGFART - 5 TURNS

Azel killed the thwomp guarding langbart and Sigurd killed him with a crit hero sword. Elwind actually almost has crit on it too, so good.

TO PHINORA - 4 TURNS

Just ran there, not much to be said. Only have 7 Tyrfing uses, better make them count.

Even cooler though, Cuan killed Magorn and brought Trabant to 13HP before dying, it's the best he's ever done against the dragon knights (mostly because Ethlin didn't die, but still) Hilariously enough Magorn still appears in the cutscene (Trabant is actually invincible without hacking, a max strength Cuan doesn't ORKO him, but Magorn goes down easily enough).

TO THE LAST PLACE - THE REST OF THE TURNS

oh my god I realized that Azel could survive Thorhammer with 1HP I had to seize the chance for Azel to kill Reptor

unfourtunately it didn't end up saving a turn since SIgurd had to wait the turn he would have spent seizing for Levin/Tiltyu but it was still hilarious nontheless.

UNIT ANALYSIS

Sigurd was... Sigurd? He looks pretty normal to me.

in no particular order really

I picked Levin to kill the cross knights and use warp in chapter 3. He didn't disappoint.

We'll see if Holsety!Arthur was worth the ~2 turns he costed. Probably not, but OH WELL.

just picked her for her kids, Tinny is pretty cool since she has staves and Arthur is a good combat dude.

actually saved a few turns here and there, thanks dood. He's honestly one of the best units in Chapter 4, and is one of the few mounted units that can actually kill thwomps at range

the legend himself

he's actually obscenely skill blessed

has 9 move to keep up with Sigurd, and is pretty durable and hits like a truck. Good unit, especially when paired with Ethlin.

saved several turns in gen 1. Even if given the choice i'd pick her over Sylvia every time, her and Leaf are just too good.

Edited November 1, 2015 by General Horace

[Yojinbo]

Prologue - 11/11 turns

I thought I'd lose 3 turns to Horace here [1 because I needed the Church to heal Sigurd where he could just use Ethlin, 1 at the bridge chokepoint because he can't ORKO Hand Axe dudes with the Steel Sword and another one on the way from the bridge to Evans castle for some reason] but it was actually only 2. Because Sigurd held back to heal at the church Alvis could reach him and give him the Silver Sword with which he could ORKO the Hand Axe dude behind the bridge. He killed another fighter blocking his way then Canto'd right to the gate of Evans Castle where he nearly killed Gerrard on Turn 10 enemy phase. He finished him off with the Steel Sword and seized on Turn 11.

5 turns to Jungby: Sigurd procced 2x +str on his way to Jungby. He ORKO'd one of the guards and Canto'd to the gate to get attacked by DiMaggio on 4E and finished him off at 5P to Seize. Noish and Ardan cleared the northern section, Fin killed whatever Sigurd did not wipe out on the way south. Villages were picked up by Noish

6 turns to Evans: Sigurd didn't proc a lot of str on his way to Evans but his level ups were still pretty good [lots of speed, solid def and iirc one level up with +2 HP], Fin picked up the Speed Ring, Noish got solid level ups with +str, +spd and +skl. He'll be pretty awesome once Sigurd gets 50 kills on that Steel Sword! I don't even know what to do with the Silver Sword yet though. Maybe it'll help to kill Jamka faster or something.

[Blackzero]

Prologue - 28/28 turns

Well, that was just a great start, wasn't it?

I knew I wouldn't beat probably anybody's turn time in the prologue with only 3 units, and some mishaps came along the way. Sigurd was obviously the MVP here, and Ardan was well... There too help? I didn't visit all the villages, just the ones on the other side of the map(The one with the speed ring, of course) because it would have more than likely added more turns.

12 turns to Jungby - Sigurd and Ardan when the usual way, while Ardan mainly took care of any of the enemies that got past Sigurd. Sigurd really didn't have trouble, as he dodged most of the enemies's attacks. Lex had some trouble, and had to visit a church twice to not die. Sigurd I think two rounded the boss, so it didn't take too long.

16 turns to Evans - I had Sigurd, Lex and Ardan sit at the bridges outside of Jungby until Alvis killed all the enemies the wave of enemies was taken out. I got the Silver sword, since I thought I'd need it, and Alvis talked to Sigurd on the allied phase anyways.

Sigurd had to visit a church to heal to fight Gerrard, as Gerrard 2HKO's my Sigurd, with a 30ish percent chance to hit, a risk I didn't want to take. Ardan got a hit on Gerrard for the lols as he was close to a level, then Sigurd finished the job.

Oh, and have some stats from the end of the prologue:

Also, stats after doing the chapter 1 arena:

Ardan and Lex didn't finish the arena, as Ardan couldn't get past the 6th opponent(the wind mage) and Lex couldn't get past the 4th(The Swordfighter, as the swordfighter could double and had a 100 percent change to hit while Lex had like a 30-something.)

I think joining in on this may have not been a good idea. Oh well, too late now.

[Refa]

Prologue- 10/10 turns

Did the standard five turn clear to Jungby, what with Sigurd getting the required 2 strength procs (yeah, he could use the Iron Lance, but let's be real...that'll most likely screw you over in a draft) and killing the boss with barely any health left despite that. Alec went through the middle path and Ardan just sort of faffed around doing nothing of real importance. Afterwards, I recruited Midir who immediately proved his virtue by ORKOing the Brigand atop the Speed Ring village and getting it (seriously, didn't even have to rig for that Charge proc). I then skipped the Silver Sword whilst parking Sigurd just out of the range of the Hand Axe bandit so that he could swoop in on the next turn with Cuan's Steel Lance (oh yeah, I had him buy that) and ORKO the offending Brigand. After this, it was...Turn 9? If Sigurd/Midir had more firepower, I could have skipped the Speed Ring village and probably 9 turned this map, but neither of those things reflect reality...so I took 10 turns. Skipping the Speed Ring would have blowed anyways. Oh yeah, and Ardan was burning RN's by attacking enemies or doing nothing, whichever worked best for the situation. Steel Sword has 24 kills and counting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2JpvSsT1jY

Name	LV XP HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS Items
Sigurd  13 25 42 19 00 14 15 08 13 03 Steel Sword, Steel Lance, Iron Lance, Javelin 
Alec	06 75 34 13 01 10 11 05 11 00 Steel Sword, Iron Sword, Iron Lance, Javelin
Midir   05 58 34 10 00 07 11 04 08 00 Iron Bow, Speed Ring
Ardan   06 72 39 16 00 05 05 03 13 00 Slim Sword, Iron Sword

Edited November 1, 2015 by Refa

[General Horace]

Oh yeah, and Ardan was burning RN's by attacking enemies or doing nothing, whichever worked best for the situation.

ardan is the real mvp of fe4 drafts

[Yojinbo]

He is the immortal controller of the RNG.

[General Horace]

CHAPTER 6 - 16/16 TURNS

Celice ran and killed everything with the hero sword, then sold the slim sword and repaired the hero sword, and grabbed the light sword + magic ring and killed the handaxe dudes with that and yeah. Arthur killed all of Johalva's squad, and Oifaye got the skill ring.

Arthur sold the shield ring and bought the elite ring in the chapter 6 base.

stats after arena:

man that's either shit defence or really good res.

i forgot to move mana initially so she only got to heal once oops

oifaye/10

fear the holsety

he bought the return ring Celice sold too after this for later

CHAPTER 7 - 18/34 TURNS

Did dismounting when needed in the desert etc

Oh yeah, something else I forgot about Layleen, they cost turns! Arthur fullmoved every turn to eventually recruit Tinny, and cleaned up the scraps Celice left beind, then blasted all of Liza's squad and Oifaye preempitively killed a mage to let Celice just run through and kill Ishtor, and then Oifaye ran ahead and got in range of one of the armours to get it out of the way (after he killed most of the mages with the lightsword, except Tinny and a few other that were out of range) and killed that too to get it out of Celice's way to allow for a safe recruitment of Tinny and Celice's killing of Blume all in one go. Leaf returned home and killed the arena, unfourtunatley he wasn't able to grab Elite from Arthur because of time constraints, and Aless couldn't arena at all.

CHAPTER 8 - 13/47 TURNS

Celice got blocked by the enemies near the bosses meaning he lost a turn on each castle, long with warp not existing and the like. Julia spammed return and fought with the glitched lightning tome, Daisy gave Tinny enough money for the elite ring and she hit level 21, and Janne might even promote next chapter thanks to the 80 kill steel sword and the power of eating the children.

Celice... with awful defence. At least his speed isn't horrid.

she'll spam warp or something until promotion maybe

Oifaye

Janneeeeeeeeee

she didnt have enough money for the Pursuit Ring :(

i dunno if that defence is good or not?

Looks good.

Leaf :)

wow, without the Chapter 7 arena he was pretty poor and kinda underlevelled.

the sleep sword stops working when you run into hero weapons

oh well she's actually been really valuable, passing around money.

dat avoid

CHAPTER 9 - 13/60 TURNS

Spawned Altenna as fast as possible but still costed too many turns to recruit. However, I did recruit the amazing FAT SHOTA SIGURD by luring Hannibal close to the home castle with Oifaye and then sleepswording him, and Janne returned Sharlow and went to get her event village. Julia guarded the castle when the first wave of dragonknights refused to attack Leaf and Tinny, and promoted as a result after some more staffwork. Celice softened up Arion with the Light sword for Arthur to finish him after he was warped to the south castle by Julia.

CHAPTER 10 - 13/73 TURNS

TO CHRONOS - 3 TURNS

Leaf has the leg ring. He resuced Celice the first two turns and then rescued Janne the next turn to return Celice home so FAT SHOTA SIGURD could warp Arthur ahead to Chalphy to nuke all the enemies in Celice's way.

TO RADOS - 3 TURNS

Arthur killed dudes, Aless was warped to Chronos in preparation for the next castle. Arthur killed the dude blocking Celice, and after Celice killed the boss, Janne returned him and herself home.

TO MILETOS - 4 TURNS

Had to have Tinny (who was warped the Chronos earlier) restore Janne once since she doens't have enough res to avoid status. Leaf rescued people around, including Janne who returned Celice on the turn he seized. Aless killed Ishtar which was nice since he kinda needed the life ring, and Arthur was warped to Miletos after Celice was returned, and he ran ahead to prepare himself for nuking the enemies up near Alvis. Oifaye did something useful for the first time in a while and tanked a sleep staff for Celice.

TO CHALPHY - 3 TURNS

DEATH TO TYRFING

Turns out Holsety Arthur can ORKO Alvis, who knew. His hitrate is awful at 40% though, but between Aless and Arthur, they managed to bring down Alvis in one turn, and Celice decided that it wasn't worth the turns for Tyrfing and seized. Janne even cleared out an armour with the critkill hero sword, Celice kills the bosses just fine with the regular hero sword. Celice has mad res, but he still might get slept on the way to Edda, but Tinny should be able to bail him out. FAT SHOTA SIGURD hit level 20 on the last turn so he sadly couldn't fail at the arena this chapter.

Also ROFL Daisy cleared the final arena with an Iron sword, she was knocked perfectly into prayer range by every single enemy. I'll post stats later.

Edited November 2, 2015 by General Horace

[Yojinbo]

I don't think I'd be able to reach these turncounts even if I had your team >_>

Since you're already basically finished before the rest of us has even began I'd be curious to see how you'd do with my team. I'll definitely finish the run but I'd really like to see the difference because that's actually the point of the whole thing.

[General Horace]

I can tell you right now that my team would win by at least 10-15 turns. It's probably the best team i've ever had in an FE4 draft. I'll try it anyway probably, but my team was totally ridiculous this time around.

Edited November 2, 2015 by General Horace