Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Any ideas for getting to the villages while being able to turtle the enemies? Corrin + Felicia can ohko any one single enemy on the map, but they keep getting two shotted. Additionally, I have no idea what the point of the Dragon's Vein is in unfreezing the lake for a single turn..... Would I be better off attempting the Paralogue first to get some levels on Effie, Silas, and Arthur? Edited February 20, 2016 by Lucina's Husband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 You should definitely take advantage of your Freeze staff you won't be able to get 5 villages...you could maybe shoot for 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Getting 3 villages is sufficient for the biggest possible monetary reward on the map. Have Odin/Niles visit the southernmost village and also aim for the northwestern one, as besides the one right next to your starting position it's the easiest one to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Getting 3 villages is sufficient for the biggest possible monetary reward on the map. Have Odin/Niles visit the southernmost village and also aim for the northwestern one, as besides the one right next to your starting position it's the easiest one to get. Should I even try to eliminate all the enemies or should I just shoot for Flora and her dad after I nab the villages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 You don't have to battle Flora at all. The objective is "kill boss" so nobody is forcing you to rout the map. In Conquest, you will generally make your life much harder if you pose additional unnecessary objectives for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 You don't have to battle Flora at all. The objective is "kill boss" so nobody is forcing you to rout the map. In Conquest, you will generally make your life much harder if you pose additional unnecessary objectives for yourself. I just thought it'd be easier if I didn't get frozen every turn. I can get to the second village pretty easily now, but either Corrin gets slaughtered by the mage units or Niles gets killed by the physical units. There are just too many enemies spawning from the left village right after I get the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 The best way to avoid being frozen is to separate your characters. They can then pair up next turn, with the one who's not frozen pressing on in whichever direction is needed. If you can visit the last village just before killing the boss, you won't have to fight any of the reinforcements at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeKr Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) You can also unfreeze the lake with the DV the turn you fight Flora so that whoever is over there doesn't die. I usually use Corrin/Silas while Jakob rolls through the east side. Niles handles the bottom mages. edit: Well that's if you want to rout everything, but considering it's kill boss and you only need 3 villages, just push the left side faster. You can get there before the reinforcements if you fight Flora like I mentioned above. Edited February 20, 2016 by XeKr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 You can also unfreeze the lake with the DV the turn you fight Flora so that whoever is over there doesn't die. I usually use Corrin/Silas while Jakob rolls through the east side. Niles handles the bottom mages. edit: Well that's if you want to rout everything, but considering it's kill boss and you only need 3 villages, just push the left side faster. You can get there before the reinforcements if you fight Flora like I mentioned above. Thanks, I've figured out a general strategy to get everybody to the other side fast enough. The only problem is that the Vantage + Nosferatu Boss is healing himself to one health short of what it would take for either Zero or Corrin to get the KO on him... Pray for a miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeKr Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I usually have a reclassed Jakob with Lances to handle it, but if you haven’t reclassed him or have Felicia, try debuff and then Niles with Arthur Guard Stance + Elise standing nearby with her Personal? Edited February 20, 2016 by XeKr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I usually have a reclassed Jakob with Lances to handle it, but if you haven’t reclassed him or have Felicia, try debuff and then Niles with Arthur Guard Stance + Elise standing nearby with her Personal? I have Felicia.... How could I reclass them this early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeKr Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Heart Seal from the Vendor. Not as useful for Felicia though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I can just barely make it if I use a single Freeze stave from Elise, but I still can never kill the boss. Corrin almost always gets one-shotted and Niles isn't doing enough damage even with Felicia. Should I do Mozu's paralogue, restart for a higher stat Silas, or just go to Hard mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggro Incarnate Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I can just barely make it if I use a single Freeze stave from Elise, but I still can never kill the boss. Corrin almost always gets one-shotted and Niles isn't doing enough damage even with Felicia. Should I do Mozu's paralogue, restart for a higher stat Silas, or just go to Hard mode. Arthur gives Strength +4 and speed +2 if I remember correctly upon pair up; consider pairing him up to Felicia and getting Felicia in 2 range from Kilma; if this works correctly Felicia!Arthur will debuff Kilma and slowly chip away his HP even if he uses Nosferatu, until Kilma's HP becomes low enough for another unit (or Felicia if you wanted) to snatch the kill. If that doesn't work instead let Felicia, in 2 range from Kilma, be in attack stance with Effie paired up with Arthur (Effie should be outside of Kilma's range). Also let Elise (also out of Kilma's range, of course) stand right next to Felicia since it helps to have her heal, and her Lily's Poise skill reduces enemy damage by 3 to adjacent allies. Of course in all of these situations one should not attack Kilma in the Ally Phase unless it's a final blow; leaving most of the action to the Enemy Phase is fairly reliable in this particular case since Nosferatu can't crit, activate skills or double. Edited February 20, 2016 by Aggro Incarnate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I usually have a reclassed Jakob with Lances to handle it, but if you haven’t reclassed him or have Felicia, try debuff and then Niles with Arthur Guard Stance + Elise standing nearby with her Personal? Ninja Kamui, or Silas/Effie w/ lances also handles the boss well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Ninja Kamui, or Silas/Effie w/ lances also handles the boss well. Ugh, I have his secondary class as a Lancer.... so normally I would buy the Seal and reclass him to Ninja ASAP? I also can't even get Effie and Arthur to the boss half the time because Flora chooses to freeze them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Then use Silas? Also yes immediate reclassing for weapon rank is best. (edit: as ninja, cav can wait) Also remember the thing about keeping characters adjacent in freeze range. Edited February 20, 2016 by Ownagepuffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Then use Silas? Also yes immediate reclassing for weapon rank is best. (edit: as ninja, cav can wait) Also remember the thing about keeping characters adjacent in freeze range. You're saying I should reclass Silas to Ninja? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 wait wat no. I meant use Cav Silas to fight the boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggro Incarnate Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Would you mind considering post #14? I'd like to know myself whether the strat works for your situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) wait wat no. I meant use Cav Silas to fight the boss. Ugh, I always can barely pick off the enemies that chase me left with Effie + Arthur + Silas, sometimes Niles or Odin have to jump in and it means I lose a turn where I might have gotten to visit a village. Is it possible to be stat screwed here? Also, Silas is close to death even with a beneficial pair up. Am I supposed to get Silas/Corrin paired up with Felicia and a healer all the way to the boss before the enemies on other the bottom or top right aggro me? Edited February 20, 2016 by Lucina's Husband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Oops. Doubleposted by accident. Edited February 20, 2016 by Lucina's Husband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I bet Niles won't even connect an attack against the boss. He's at WTD and he tends to whiff even WTA attacks for me. Corrin's reclass should always wait until L10. Ninja, with its sometimes underwhelming attack before kunai rank is accumulated, really appreciates when a proc kicks in, be it Lethality, Dragon Fang or a crit. I don't like Ninja in Conquest though. The daggers don't give +2 speed and some of the good ones like Killer Shuriken (forget the English name) and Barb Shuriken (? the armourslaying one) are missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Corn's fast enough without the +2 Spd anyway and I legit had a +1 Iron forge for the whole game and was fine. It really shines on 12, 13, 17, 19, and obviously 25 for spoiler reasons. Nohr's beast kunai is also pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Yeah, the anti-beast one makes Kaze pretty desirable and he has like no competition because who uses Ninja Laslow? I know Jakob's a thing though, but I've found it hard to come up with a reason why I don't want him reclassed (if he's the 1st; if he's the 2nd I don't use him at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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