madamebrasidas Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I was thinking about this. And for clarification, let's assume you're not using the method with warping a unit over to Riev to one hit KO him and end the chapter. I mean, I guess if you use that method it is definitely easier than Phantom Ship which has no such easy way out, but I think most people fall prey to bottle necking the bottom entrance and fending off the hero/warrior/sniper squadrons coming in from the north, Or maybe that's just me 'cuz I suck at this game. Also, ppl who iron man, (are there such heroes I wonder), have you been able to beat these doozies without losing units? Just curious. I won't proffer my opinion yet because honestly I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Phantom Ship is no doubt harder, but if we ignore the alternate win con Last Hope might be harder. With the reinforcements being so numerous and varied turtling without a death is a serious concern unless your party has been power-leveled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallieSandy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 With outside grinding and arena abusing, everything seems more easier. Phantom ship is definitely harder because, in a sense, everything is still developing. Whereas in Last Hope, with all that grinding and abusing, it's a piece of cake. But regardless of grinding, Phantom ship is harder and longer to complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Last Hope gives you more room to maneuver, more time to get your defenses set up and a lot more options for good places to hold out and wait for the enemies. I'd say it's definitely the easier of the two. I think Father and Son is more difficult than both personally, without turtling specifically to break the enemy's status staves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallieSandy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Last Hope gives you more room to maneuver, more time to get your defenses set up and a lot more options for good places to hold out and wait for the enemies. I'd say it's definitely the easier of the two. I think Father and Son is more difficult than both personally, without turtling specifically to break the enemy's status staves. Man, fuck the beserk and sleep staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Between the two, I guess phantom ship, but that can be cheesed with Deussel and pure water. I'd agree F&S is harder than either sans turtling. It's the primary reason I don't consider this the easiest FE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Last hope is so easy if you have warp, it never took me more than 2 minutes. The only reason against warping that I'm seeing is that you didn't get warp or ran out of it (lol), in which case you can like... rush to Riev anyway. I mean defending isn't an awfully interesting nor rewarding way to play it. Phantom Ship is somewhat difficult so that. I never found Father and Son very hard anyway, you just need to be a bit careful and not rush, the reinforcements are too weak to force the player to push forward quickly anyway. Edited March 12, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Last Hope gives you more room to maneuver, more time to get your defenses set up and a lot more options for good places to hold out and wait for the enemies. I'd say it's definitely the easier of the two. I think Father and Son is more difficult than both personally, without turtling specifically to break the enemy's status staves. I agree with this, I think Father & Son is possibly the hardest chapter in Sacred Stones, although on Eirika's route you do have to deal with Carlyle who can be a bit annoying because he's a swordmaster on a throne and all that. (I forgot the name of that chapter though) Edited February 27, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Chapter 14 of Eirika's route is Queen of White Dunes. Anyway, Carlyle is to Eirika's route as Vigarde is to Ephraim's route; they're supposed to be of similar difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironthunder Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 See, personally I'd put Phantom Ship as harder, partly because it's pretty nasty, but also because of the fact that you have few if any promoted units short of the prepromotes. Granted, Duessel and Seth are delete buttons, so that helps, but even then, you're shepherding a squad of like, level 15s through the ships and just waiting for them to come for you, because it's risky to send anyone after them, given the Mogalls destroying Cormag, and Tana having the possible issues of getting fog-ambushed and swarmed by Gargoyles. Personally though, chapter 15 is the worst. Desert chapter where you have to keep a weak character, who's isolated from the main group, alive. In Ephraim's, it's Eirika and her paper armor, and in Eirika's, it's Knoll and his inability to dodge. Just... eurgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Phantom Ship is a nasty surprise on the first playthrough and far meaner. You can win with Seth and Duessel, but man, the rest of you units can get pretty destroyed if you aren't careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Maps like Phantom Ship and Father&Son are why I prefer Eirika's route. Btw TC, what do you mean by 'iron man'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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