Jyosua Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Continue discussion in this topic. Edited October 26, 2008 by VincentASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'm pretty nuetral on the matter, but I think that making one would stop non-debating members from getting upset over debating matters. No offense to anyone who doesn't debate or anything, but a select few people in this group seem to have strong opinions against debating with no just cause, and find this to be a good reason to flame those debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 If we made this, that means there would be no debating FE in any other forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshineYON Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds like a plan that way the ppl who like to debate don't have to bother the ppl who didn't and vice versa. and Metal Arc, does that include "What's your favorite..." kind of topics too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds like a planthat way the ppl who like to debate don't have to bother the ppl who didn't and vice versa. and Metal Arc, does that include "What's your favorite..." kind of topics too? No, those are opinions. @Arc: Which is one of the reasons I'm nuetral. I don't see why we can't just debate in those forums, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I'd say yes so people who want to post don't have to debate, which has been going on a lot lately. A Fire Emblem Debate forum sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canas is back Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 it also allows people to challenge debate, whereas it is really hard too otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 In my opinion we need to separate debate threads from opinion threads because there are those who don't have the stomach for debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 In my opinion we need to separate debate threads from opinion threads because there are those who don't have the stomach for debating. No the caring to bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I say make a place just for debating and if ppl bring debates into non debate topics they get warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't think a new forum is necessary, why not just make a new rule that states that a character vs character thread has to have a poll if it's for favorites and must NOT have a poll for debates. Think about it, a poll would tell you which character is the more favored, while in a debate the poll is useless since the result on the debate depends on which side has the better arguments and not the number of votes. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't think a new forum is necessary, why not just make a new rule that states that a character vs character thread has to have a poll if it's for favorites and must NOT have a poll for debates.Think about it, a poll would tell you which character is the more favored, while in a debate the poll is useless since the result on the debate depends on which side has the better arguments and not the number of votes. Just my 2 cents I think this is rather perfect. We won't have enough debates to need a separate forum anyway. It would die out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 That doesn't mean we shouldn't try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I say make a place just for debating and if ppl bring debates into non debate topics they get warned. That's extreme. There's no need to warn someone for accidently getting into a debate in a non-debate topic. Do we get warned everytime you go off-topic in a thread? No. I don't think a new forum is necessary, why not just make a new rule that states that a character vs character thread has to have a poll if it's for favorites and must NOT have a poll for debates.Think about it, a poll would tell you which character is the more favored, while in a debate the poll is useless since the result on the debate depends on which side has the better arguments and not the number of votes. Just my 2 cents And if someone just clicks to check the last post of the thread, not noticing there's a poll? They might take it as a debating topic and start to debate. Then, the people who aren't debating would ge upset and the two sides would start to argue (One side would probably be flaming, too). That's exactly what we want to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) The poll idea is nice and all, but a new member might not have enough experience to know what to do, or even that s/he had to do something to differentiate. The real problem is everyone getting butthurt over people claiming opinions as facts. I thought SF was a place where everyone was accepted, and this is segregation. Edited October 9, 2008 by Meteor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 The poll idea is nice and all, but a new member might not have enough experience to know what to do, or even that s/he had to do something to differentiate. The real problem is everyone getting butthurt over people claiming opinions as facts. I thought SF was a place where everyone was accepted, and this is segregation. What are you claiming to be segregation? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) And if someone just clicks to check the last post of the thread, not noticing there's a poll? They might take it as a debating topic and start to debate. Then, the people who aren't debating would ge upset and the two sides would start to argue (One side would probably be flaming, too). That's exactly what we want to avoid. When looking at the "view new posts" section, you can clearly see the word "Poll" right next to the topic title so there's no excuse there. If a debate starts, then every user that knows the rule SHOULD simply avoid that post and report it. If the person that started that debate by mistake, then a warning's a good wake up call for him/her... or there could simply be a warning that to alert the user without adding to his warning percentage. That rule could easily be adjusted just in case there are some possibilities that it doesn't already cover. If debates getting into "favorites" polls is that much of a problem because new users are not aware of it, just direct new users to see the rules through that registration e-mail or on the account activation link if possible. Edited October 9, 2008 by ThunderMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What are you claiming to be segregation? O_o I am not segregation...(?) All I'm saying is that telling certain users their opinions are unwelcome except on a certain board seems like a pretty unfair thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 imo we should do like smash boards Mods and admins decide who can post in the board, you get in by showing maturity and ability to debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wist Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I disagree with that idea, I think it contrast the point of having a discussion board in the first place. Such a policy could very easily inspire unwarranted elitism, something I believe would devalue the community. I know a forum in which members who demonstrate ineptitude in regard to discussion certain matters are banned from posting in that one pertaining board in the forum. I would disagree of something like that being implemented as well, but I believe it would be a more fair alternative to disallowing members from posting in a board until they somehow prove their maturity. Edited October 10, 2008 by Wist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonBladeSniper Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I don't think a new forum is necessary, why not just make a new rule that states that a character vs character thread has to have a poll if it's for favorites and must NOT have a poll for debates.Think about it, a poll would tell you which character is the more favored, while in a debate the poll is useless since the result on the debate depends on which side has the better arguments and not the number of votes. Just my 2 cents I REALLY feel aimed at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 I am not segregation...(?)All I'm saying is that telling certain users their opinions are unwelcome except on a certain board seems like a pretty unfair thing to do. Their opinions are welcome until they try to tell other's they're wrong for having their opinions. Then it turns into a debate, which not everyone likes, and clutters up a thread made solely for friendly opinions, while debates become very heated and in some cases unfriendly. I think we need a controlled environment for things such as this and need to separate it from the overall friendliness of the rest of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 That's pretty much what you have to do to win a heated debate; make your opponent feel uneasy about his or her arguments. This may seem very unfriendly, when it in fact is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I REALLY feel aimed at... Impossible, I can't recall any of your posts and that avatar is the only thing that's stood out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Wouldn't this satisfy haters, and debaters? HELL YEAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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